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Re: Ancestors of Marie RIVARD m. 1857 Édouard DUFRESNE

Suzette Leclair (View posts)
Posted: 5 Dec 2004 2:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry about that! "Vf" is the French abreviation for "veuf" meaning widower. The feminine version, widow, is "veuve" or abreviated "vve" (v v e).

I took the information staight out of the repertoires and respected what they had transcribed. As you will have noticed, there's quite a variation on the name spellings, based on who wrote down the vital records, and how he heard it.

A great many people in Quebec were unable to read and write, in those days. Therefore, the priests/ministers went by sounds mostly.

My family is from the Yamachiche-Louiseville region, so the names are familiar to me and easier to research; and I do happen to live in a nearby region. It's always a pleasure to be able to help whenever possible.

Good luck in your research!

Suzette Leclair
www.geninfo.org
www.rootsweb.com/~qclanaud

Re: Ancestors of Marie RIVARD m. 1857 Édouard DUFRESNE

Suzette Leclair (View posts)
Posted: 5 Dec 2004 3:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Rivard, Lebel, Dufresne, Paille, Lacerte, Vacher, Beaulieu, Chartre, Thibault, Lamy, Frechette, Gauthier, Bergeron, Gailloux, Thumes, Toutant, St-Pere, Lefebvre, Mulard, Couteau
I gave you two direct lines: the line of Marie Rivard and the line of Edouard Rivard-Dufresne.

And what do you know... I missed one generation and managed to put their marriage date to their son. My apologies!

Obviously, they share the same ancestors. The Rivard family has a variation of dit names: Lavigne, La Teigne, Loranger, Mongrain, Bellefeuille, FeuilleVerte, Lanouette, de la Glanderie, Préville and Dufresne. I might have missed some... Don't you like all these dit names! They do complicate a research, but they also make it much more interesting.

In summary, it goes as follows:

Marie:
-Jean Baptiste (m#2 1821 M.Josephte Lebel-Beaulieu)
-Julien (m. 1754 M.Antoinette Lacerte)
-Julien (m. 1721 Catherine Gailloux)
-Julien (m. 1682 Elisabeth Thumès-Dufresne
-Nicolas b. 16-06-1617 Tourouvre, Perche (m. 1653 Catherine de St-Père)
-Pierre (m. 1613 Jeanne Mulard)

Edouard:
-Edouard (m. 1832 Lucie Fréchette)
-Augustin (m. 1795 M.Rose Lamy)
-Augustin (m. 1765 M.Françoise Gauthier)
-Joseph (m. 1732 M.Joseph Toutant)
-Julien (m. 1682 Elisabeth Thumès-Dufresne)
-Nicolas (m. 1653 Catherine de St-Père)
-Pierre (m. 1613 Jeanne Mulard)

Here's the corrected detailed version. This time, I'll give them to you separately.

Marie RIVARD (Jean Baptiste & Marie Josephte Lebel)
Marriage: 15-05-1857 Pointe-du-Lac, Qc
Edouard RIVARD-DUFRESNE (Edouard & Lucie Fréchette)

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Marie's ancestors:
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Jean Baptiste RIVARD vf Marguerite Paillé (Julien & Marie Antoinette Lacerte)
Marriage: 15-01-1821 Yamachiche, Qc
Marie Josephte LEBEL-BEAULIEU (Jacques & Marie Chartre)

Julien RIVARD (Julien & Catherine Gailloux)
Marriage: 14-01-1754 Yamachiche, Qc
Marie Antoinette VACHER-LACERTE (Charles & Claire Bergeron)

Julien RIVARD-dit-Lavigne, Sieur de la Glanderie (Julien & Elisabeth Thumès-Dufresne)
Marriage: 09-07-1721 Batiscan**
Catherine GAILLOUX (Pierre & Marie Marguerite Creste)

Julien RIVARD-dit-Lavigne-de-la-Glanderie (Nicolas & Catherine de St-Père)
Marriage: 03-02-1682 Champlain**
Elisabeth THUMÈS-dit-Dufresne (Félix & Elisabeth Lefebvre)

Nicolas RIVARD-dit-LAVIGNE-LaTEIGNE, born 16-06-1617 Tourouvre, Perche (Pierre & Jeanne Mulard)
Marriage: 21-06-1653 Trois-Rivières, Qc
Catherine DE ST-PÈRE (Étienne & M.Madeleine Noémie Couteau)

Pierre RIVARD (Thomas & Jehanne Chevreau)
Marriage: 11-11-1613 St-Aubin de Tourouvre, Perche, France
Jeanne MULARD Robert & Françoise Louche)
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Edouard's ancestors:
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Édouard RIVARD-DUFRESNE vf Marie Thibault (Augustin & Marie Rose Lamy)
Marriage: 10-07-1832 Yamachiche, Qc
Lucie FRÉCHETTE (Jean François & Marie Josephte Gauthier)

Augustin RIVARD-DUFRESNE (Augustin & Françoise Gauthier)
Marriage: 12-01-1795 Yamachiche, Qc
Marie Rose LAMY (François & Catherine Dussault)

Augustin RIVARD-DUFRESNE (Joseph & Marie Joseph Toutant)
Marriage: 14-01-1765 Pointe-du-Lac, Qc
Marie Françoise GAUTHIER (Joseph & Jeanne Foucher)

Joseph RIVARD-dit-LAVIGNE-DUFRESNE (Julien & Elisabeth Thumès-Dufresne)
Marriage: 10-11-1732 Champlain
Marie-Joseph TOUTANT (Nicolas & Marie Anne Rhéault)

Julien RIVARD-dit-Lavigne-de-la-Glanderie (Nicolas & Catherine de St-Père)
Marriage: 03-02-1682 Champlain
Elisabeth THUMÈS-dit-Dufresne (Félix & Elisabeth Lefebvre)
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The rest is the same as Marie's direct line.

If you look at the database on GenInfo, you will find additional information on these families (www.geninfo.org/genealogie).

If you have questions, just ask!

Suzette Leclair
www.geninfo.org
www.rootsweb.com/~qclanaud

Re: Ancestors of Marie RIVARD m. 1857 Édouard DUFRESNE

Nat (View posts)
Posted: 5 Dec 2004 5:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Rivard, Frappier, Lamontagne
Dear Suzette!

I cannot thank you enough for your clarification! I am presently questioning how Marie Rivard-Dufresne came to be on our family tree -- trying to fall asleep last night was difficult while considering the dates. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate your consideration of the following.

My great-grandmother is Amanda Frappier and records of her parentage and life in the census are easily found. The 1881 census reveals her living with her mother and siblings, but her mother has remarried -- now Marie Lamontagne, age 32.

Amanda's birth record indicates her parents as Theophile Frappier and Marie Rivard -- married August 29, 1865 in Saint-Aime, Richelieu, Quebec. I cannot find a record of Theophile's death, but Marie remarries Cyrille Lamontagne and in 1881 resides with him, her Frappier children, and a new baby Lamontagne.

It seems Marie would have been ridiculously young to have married Édouard Dufresne in 1857. Did the creator of this tree I work from make an error? I have been able to locate Theophile's parents and will check your website. Would appreciate your expert opinion!

Thanks again for everything! On the one hand, I would love to be able to trace this line back to France, but on the other, I have been trying to learn about the Native ancestor supposedly in our background.

Grateful for your time and help --
Nat

Re: Ancestors of Marie RIVARD m. 1857 Édouard DUFRESNE

Posted: 7 Dec 2014 7:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 7 Dec 2014 7:41PM GMT
I don't know how far you have gotten, probably have what you need, but; if you look up Joseph Ebenezer Rivers, b. 1856 you will find the line of Rivers in Willsboro, Lewis, NY...I personally know the daughters of Jesse Rivers, (J. E. Rivers son) who are now in their 80's and 90's. I am their cousin somehow. Haven't connected yet. My email is penny68682002@yahoo.com. Maybe you can help me connect. Also you may want to search descendants of Jacques Rivest...another surprise.
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