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Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 3 Jan 2010 12:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Sayer, Dyball
I believe I have traced relatives who emigrated from Norwich, Norfolk, England to Canada. I have found names on ship lists that I believe are the correct people, surnames Sayer and Dyball (two separate families but they are related to each other).

I have a 1908 address from the ship lists for an Alice Sayer in Sherbrooke, Quebec. It is difficult to read, but think it is 19 East Road, Newington, Sherbrooke. But I cannot find any reference anywhere else to a Newington in/near Sherbrooke. Does anyone recognise the name? Also, all the street names in Sherbrooke are in French now. Is East Road the same as Rang East found on Google maps?

I would appreciate any old maps of Sherbrooke with old street names, or help with knowing where exactly East Road was. I have found the 1911 Sherbrooke census online, but can’t tell which sub District would be the right one to look at to find that street.

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1911 -1930)

Posted: 3 Jan 2010 12:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry, the address East Road was from 1930, not 1908.

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 12:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Is your Alice the Alice Sophia Sayer who was married to Alfred Charles Sayer? I found a marriage record for their daughter Winnifred and Enos William Way in 1928, at the Church of the Advent, St Paul and St Peter. They are listed as residing in Ascot. One of the witnesses was William John Dyball, so this looks like your family. http://search.ancestry.ca/iexec/?htx=view&r=5543&dbi...

I don't know where Newington was in this area. All I can find about it was that there was a POW camp located in Newington during WWII. Ascot is now part of Sherbrooke, but was once a separate little town. I also wondered whether "East Road" might be "East Ward". Sherbrooke was divided into wards and the Church of the Advent is located in what was the East Ward. Just a thought.

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 5 Jan 2010 2:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Wellington Street in Sherbrooke
My guess is that you are talking about Wellington Street in Sherbrooke.
Here is a link that shows many photos of this street in the early 1900
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcZtPyFAyJ0

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 5:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Susan, thank you so much. Yes, that is the correct family. I could not use the direct link you gave because I am a member of Ancestry.co.uk not .ca, but I searched using your data and found the same marriage record myself. It is definitely the right family because they have the correct maiden name of Cullum for Alice Sayer. Alice Cullum and Maud Cullum were sisters, and William Dyball is Maud’s son. My great grandmother was also their sister, so Alice and Maud were my great great aunts.

Do you have any particular interest in this family yourself?

Your info also led me to a number of other entries for members of the Sayer family in the Quebec Vital Records, so thanks again for the hint.

Thanks also for the fact that Newington existed near Sherbrooke as the site of a POW camp, even if it has disappeared now.

I checked the Ascot section of the Sherbrooke 1911 census, but no luck. The East Ward bit is very long, and if I check it all it will take a while!

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 5:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank you for your reply. Wellington St was an option I had considered, but the place name really does not look like Wellington - I enlarged it to check, and there are no tall letters in the middle of the name.

Also, Susan has indicated above that there once was a place called Newington.

I enjoyed your video link!

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 6 Jan 2010 10:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
I'm glad my info was helpful. I have no connection to this family - just an interest in the Sherbrooke area. By the way, Alice and Vera Sayer Way and her family are buried in Malvern Cemetery in Lennoxville, near Sherbrooke. http://www.interment.net/data/canada/qc/sherbrooke/malvern/m...

I may have a sort of connection to you after all. Allan Norris, who is buried with them, was part of a family with whom my parents were very close friends. I guess he must have been married to one of the Way sisters. I didn't know that.

That Wellington Street suggestion was a good one. Wellington is one of Sherbrooke's two main streets (the other one is King) and is a very long street. However, it runs north and south. I will look into this some more.

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 7 Jan 2010 11:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks very much for the headstone website. I used it to search for other members of the Sayer family, and found quite a few in different Anglican cemeteries in and near Sherbrooke.

Alan Norris being with them isn't really explained, is it? There are a few other Norrises in the cemetery too. As the Ways were buried with that surname, it seems unlikely that they were married to him.

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 15 Jan 2014 2:11AM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: Sayer Norris Way Cullum
Hello I see your all searching Sayers and Norris
Alice sayer is my great great mother
And Allan Norris is my grandfather (he is still alive) btw
I'm new to this genealogy and would love to learn more. We have a bunch of original records if you need some info :)

Re: Old street names/census districts in Sherbrooke (1908 -1911)

Posted: 15 Jan 2014 2:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
That's very interesting. Maybe I have the wrong Norris family. My parents' friends were Phil and Tilly Norris and their son and daughter-in-law, Raymond and Joan. Raymond had a younger brother, Bill. Somehow, I thought there was an Allan in there too. Was I mistaken?
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