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ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 13 Jan 2010 12:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Jason Daniel NILES b. 18 Apr. 1839 Stanstead, QC - d. 04 Oct. 1916 Charleston, Orleans County, VT

The 1850 US Census for Charleston, VT, tells us that JASON DANIEL NILES was residing with the Francis & Mary CHASE family at age 11 years.

The 1900 US Census for Charleston, VT, tells us that JASON DANIEL NILES, migrated to the USA from Canada in 1846 (i.e. at about 7 years of age).

JASON DANIEL NILES death certificate at Charleston , VT apparently says that his father was JASON (?) NILES, and that his mother was ALMA PERSONS.

Search for Father:
We have explored the possibility that JASON ADAMS NILES b. 19 Dec 1814 Burlington, VT – d. 7 July 1894 Kosciusko, MS, was actually Jason Daniel NILES biological father; without any documented success to date.

However, a photographic facial feature comparison, reveals an uncanny striking resemblance.

JASON ADAMS NILES was apparently a son of DANIEL SWIFT (SWIT) NILES, who resided at HATLEY, STANSTEAD COUNTY, QUEBEC, CANADA

Search for Mother:
To date we have found no record of the ALMA PERSONS listed on Jason Daniel NILES death certificate as being his biological mother; in either the Eastern Townships records in Stanstead County, Quebec, or in Orleans County, Vermont. (she possibly PARSONS versus PERSONS)

Any leads appreciated.

Re: ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 14 Jan 2010 10:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
I have done research on the Niles family of the Eastern Townships of Quebec. I did indeed find a Jason D. Niles living in Charleston, Orleans Co., VT 1850-1910. He married Rachel Ann Royce but I found no marriage listed for them in the VT Vital records Index early to 1871. I have been unable to find this Jason's parents.
Cyrus Niles of Hatley and Compton, Quebec married Nancy Harvey, of my Harvey line, and they had a son Jason but he was born about 1855.
Jason Niles who lived and died in MS was probably the son of Daniel Swift and Alice (Reed) Niles. Jason had a sister, Caroline Jane Niles, who married George Barnard, of my Barnard family line.
You might try to obtain a copy of the Last Will and Testament for Daniel Swift Niles. It is Vol. B-10, page 165, Entry #129. You will need to write to the following address and ask them for the cost to obtain a copy of this Will.
Bureau de la Publicite des Droights
674 Dufferin
Stanstead, Quebec, Canada J0B 3E0.
Good luck, Micki in California

Re: ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 16 Jan 2010 3:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Micki,

Thank you for your reply and advice.

Several years ago the commercial Quebec & Eastern Townships genealogy website at: http://simmons.b2b2c.ca , provided me with an extract from the registers of the Free Will Baptist Church serving Hatley, Quebec, register for the years 1842-1885, on the front of folio 61, Quebec National Archives microfilm #M-346.3: which says: "The marriages of JASON D. NILES farmer & RACHEL ANN ROYCE both of the town of Charleston in the State of Vermont was solemnized by me the subscriber by License this eleventh day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & sixty five (signed) etc.etc."

It is most interesting, and I percieve relevant, that Jason Daniel Niles returned to Hatley, Stanstead County, Quebec to get married!

Yes, it has been determined that Jason Adams Niles (1814-1894) was a son of Daniel Swift (Swit) Niles of Hatley, QC.

Neither of the recorded wills for either Daniel Swift (Swit) Niles, or his son Jason Adams Niles mention Jason Daniel Niles in them as a legal heir, or otherwise.

Which suggests to me the possibility that Jason Daniel Niles could have been born out of wedlock; until such time as further developments disprove that hypothesis.

Associated question: How old was your CYRUS NILES in July 1838?

To date no record of Jason Daniel Niles birth has been found by me, other than the data on his death certificate filed in Charleston, Vermont.

The Eastern Townships Research Center (ETRC) http://www.etrc.ca were also unable to locate a birth record in their available District of St. Francis records.

As a matter of additional interest, the diaries of Jason (Adams) Niles have been preserved at:

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Louis Round Wilson Special Collections Library
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB# 3926, The Wilson Library
Chapel Hill, N.C. 27514-8890
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#950
JASON NILES PAPERS
Inventory
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EXTRACT

BIOGRAPHICAL NOTE

Jason Niles was born 19 December 1814 at Hatley, Quebec. He lived in the vicinity of Burlington, Vt., from 1831 to March 1838, attending the University of Vermont from 1834 until his graduation in 1837. He lived in Massachusetts, Ohio, and Tennessee from 1838 to 1848, teaching school. He married Harriet "Qu" McRee of Shelbyville, Tenn., on 15 August 1847.

Niles moved to Kosciusko, Miss., on 20 July 1848. Having
started reading law in January, he was admitted to the bar in 1851 and practiced intermittently throughout his residence in Kosciusko. He was editor of the Kosciusko Chronicle, 1851-1853; a delegate to the state constitutional conventions of 1851, 1865, and 1868; a member of the state House of Representatives in 1870; a circuit judge in 1871 and 1872; and Republican member of the United States Congress March 1873 to March 1875 (he was defeated in the 1874 election). Niles died at Kosciusko, Miss., on 7 July 1894.

The URL http://www.lib.unc.edu/wilson/index.html will get you there

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NOTE: The Marlene Simmons http://simmons.b2b2c.ca website currently has two listings for 1. Alma Parsons and 2. Alma Victoria Parson; but none for an Alma Persons.

I believe that the Alma Victoria Parsons record is for someone born much later than would be associated with Jason Daniel Niles birth; but a request for those records has been made nonetheless.

Regards,

Jack (in Australia)



Re: ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 16 Jan 2010 11:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Jack,
Cyrus Niles was born 12 Jan 1817 and died 31 May 1877. (age 59-11-19) He married Nancy Harvey 26 Oct 1842 in Hatley, Stanstead Co., Quebec. They are born buried in Old North Church Cemetery, Hatley, Quebec. They had:
Charlotte, born circa 1844 prob in Compton, Quebec
Female, born 1851, died 1851 (date on headstone)
Daniel, born circa 1855 (age 5 in 1861 census)

I have several books on "Vital Records from the Stanstead Journal" from about 1840-1950. There are many people listed with the surname of Parsons but no Alma is listed.

Many thanks for the additional information on the Niles family.

Daniel Swift Niles also married Delia Woodruff and they had William Woodruff Niles who became the bishop of the Episcopal Church in NH. I have done quite a bit of research on this family but he had no son named Daniel.
Do you tie into the Niles family?

Micki in California

Re: ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 17 Jan 2010 2:41AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Micki,

Re your question: Do you tie into the Niles family?

Yes I do.

Jason Daniel Niles was my father's mother's father. (i.e. a Great Grandfather)

I grew up in Orleans County VT.

Regards,

Jack

Re: ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 17 Jan 2010 2:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Jack,
I think it is very interesting that you grew up in Orleans Co., VT and now live in Australia. I grew up in Bennington, VT and now live in CA. It makes the world seem small.
It would be fun to connect with you via your regular email address. Mine is: mismicki@aol.com

Re: ALMA PERSONS (or PARSONS etc.) gave birth 18 April 1839 Stanstead County, QC

Posted: 21 Jan 2015 5:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

I'm wondering if you resolved your Alma Victoria Parsons (1854-1902) question. I am related to her through her sister. My Alma Victoria doesn't appear to be connected to your family; however, you never know.

Also, I noted that you do have connections in Hatley, and were looking for information from Stanstead. I am frequently in that area, so if there are any photos you'd like taken, or documents picked up, I'd be happy to do so.

Best regards from Canada
Anne
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