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Re: Looking for Toland or Hopkins from St Sylvester Lobtiniere Quebec

vam5506 — 2013-05-09 15:42:19Z

I wanted to tie a bow around this inquiry. I have recently been given a copy of an old letter from my aunt in which she talked about the deaths of the siblings of my grandmother. She says they died of "black diptheria". So I guess there was an epidemic in 1868 in St Sylvester

Re: Cascaddens in Canada

lynnwaynewalker — 2013-04-30 20:01:00Z

Hi Schoolboydoug1,

I'm searching for an Annabell Cascadden who married a John R A Smith, I'm wondering if you have any of her parent's information perhaps...thanks for your time

Re: St Sylvester Lobtiniere Quebec "Disaster" in 1868

rcc2_9 — 2013-02-19 23:13:13Z

I live in St. Sylvester, and I was wondering what kind of help would you need. Is it the Death record you would like help? if it is French I could probably help. Richard

Cascaddens in Canada

schoolboydoug1 — 2013-02-14 19:30:38Z

hi John and others,
I have Cascaddens in Malahide and Elgin countys in Ontario. William Henry came to Pennsylvania and then Ontario in early 1800s. Check them out - they came from Ireland - Donegal as did the James in Quebec. Male names especially are consistent with the ones in Ireland and vice a versa.

Re: Objet : Parrott and Buggy Families - St Sylvestre

ladysecret — 2013-02-10 02:51:58Z

Thank you very much for the information.

Objet : Parrott and Buggy Families - St Sylvestre

clairelanthier12 — 2013-02-10 02:25:23Z

Hi,

I found these info, not sure it will help you.

Christopher Parrot, school teacher, from Ireland (Buckinghamshire county) married Ann Buggy from the same place, 3-01-1828, Church of England, Aubigny, Québec.

Church records for some children;
1. John Christopher baptized 09-02-1833 at 18 months,
St-Sylvestre.
2. Caroline baptized 12-03-1834 at 5 weeks, St-Sylvestre.
3. William born 06-03-1837 St-Sylvestre.
4. Henry born April 1839 St-Sylvestre.
5. Sophia born 02-03-1841 St-Sylvestre.
Margaret: not found.
Also, 2 marriage records for:

Mary Buggy from Ireland (Buckinghamshire county) married
3-01-1828 Church of England, Aubigny, to Willis Williams.

Margaret Buggy married 4-01-1828 Church of England, Aubigny, to Rodney Messervy.

Claire

Re: St Sylvester Lobtiniere Quebec "Disaster" in 1868

lulukelly — 2013-02-06 03:24:04Z

I know this is a old post but I'm going to see what I can figure out. I have a Anne Kelly that married a Michael Hooley they were from St. Sylvester. Anne and Michael came to california during the gold rush with the Kelly family sometime around 1850's. I have several Kelly children that there god parents were Hooley, Houley or Houly's....I have a article of Michael's Death that looks like he came from Ross,Ireland the copy is horrible but if anyon Can help I would love help.

montminy

1_stephro — 2012-05-26 19:03:18Z

germain montminy sa femme madeleine therrien leurs enfants petits enfants de ma lignee etaient a st gilles de lotbiniere et montmagny .
on y retrouve donc germain,francois et rose dubois,maxime nait en 1852 .
je le retrouve a weedon en 1901 avec rose bergeron et leur fils george.
en 1911 a st gerard(weedon) george est marie a marie ange tanguay(irene) ,

Re: Poulin/Paré

dpeselman — 2012-05-14 00:58:48Z

Merci
Jennifer Sylvain

Re: Laliberte & Roireau, Lotbinière

mliberte — 2012-05-13 16:25:43Z

Bon jour, J'attache une photo de mon arriere grand-pere, Stanilas Laliberte et de sa famille. Mon grand-pere etait le docteur Henri Laliberte.

Excellent travail.

Ton cousin de la Floride,

Michel Laliberte

Parrott and Buggy Families - St Sylvestre

ladysecret — 2012-05-09 05:10:17Z

Looking for History of the Parrott and Buggy families. of this area. Christopher and Ann Buggy Parrott w/married 1/1828 @ St Sylvestre, as was Mary Buggy on the same date. Christopher and Ann had at least five children in the area (John, Caroline, William, Henry, and Margaret. I believe a sister to Ann was married earlier in January 1828. These people all migrated to Fox Lake, WI by 1850. I can not find any of the boys after this time and I'm wondering if they returned to Canada? I believe Christopher was born in Maine to Enoch and Sophia (?) Parrott. The Buggy girls were born in Ireland. Mary was listed as a spinster. I don't know what qualifies as a "spinster"? We would very much appreciate some history on these families. Thank you.

Poulin/Paré

tradll — 2012-02-23 20:17:46Z

Bonjour,

Je cherche le mariage suivant, ca 1880-1890

Ovide L. Poulin à Caroline Paré.

Caroline Paré, prob. fille de Laurent et Adélaïde Turgeon, née le 19 mars 1867 à Ste-Agathe.

Ils sont allés vivre aux USA, NH, vers 1890. Caroline est décédée en 1927 au Maine.

Merci!

JP

Re: Montminy surname

1_stephro — 2012-01-20 15:51:34Z

merci pour l info philip.dans mon cas je ferai le deplacement pour turgeon-lemieux-montminy-dubois
ne me reste qu a trouver comment m y rendre .la beauce-appalaches, c est grand.bonne route.

Re: St-Gilles

1_stephro — 2012-01-20 15:29:51Z

la lignee se fait par weedon,st giles st nicolas,un neveu de francois et rose dubois au yamaska en 1901 + ou - son nom adolphe dubois(celina tremblay)

MARIE ANGELIQUE RICHARD b: 1733

phonelady1279 — 2011-12-02 16:32:39Z

Looking for information on the death of my Marie Angelique Richard b: 1733 to the parents of Joseph Jacques Richard and
Marie-Rosalie Fournier.
Marie-Angelique Richard was still living when her husband,Jean-Chrysostome Dessaint dit St.Pierre died March 27, 1798 in St. Gervais et Protais, Bellechasse, PQ. I have checked all the church records that I could find for 1798 and after for St. Gervais but couldn't find when Angelique died. Thought she may have gone to Lotbiniere as some of her children were living there.
Any help with this "brick wall" would certainly be appreciated.
Lisa

Re: St Sylvester Lobtiniere Quebec "Disaster" in 1868

lulukelly — 2011-10-08 14:46:50Z

Thanks for the name of the publication...I hope there is something i can find...

Re: St Sylvester Lobtiniere Quebec "Disaster" in 1868

rascal789 — 2011-10-03 15:37:23Z

I was going to suggest signing up with both Amazon and Abe books and have them notify you when they have a copy. The
title of the book is "St-Sylvestre se raconte: 1828 - 1978".

I googled the title and it may be for sale by the city of Saint Sylvestre???

Under publications on the city's web site it indicates

"In terms of cost and availability, please contact the municipal office by calling 418 596-2384."

Re: St Sylvester Lobtiniere Quebec "Disaster" in 1868

lulukelly — 2011-10-02 04:09:27Z

I have Kelly's in St sylvester that arrived around 1829....do you know how I might get one of the 150 anniversary books. I would love to learn more about that area. Actually I have Hooley's, Kelly's if anyone can help that would be great.

Re: Marie Ann Houle and Jean Baptiste Marion marriage translation please

achalut — 2011-04-24 23:17:23Z

the 22 february 1814 afther publishing the three "banc de mariages au prones of our parish during three sunday consecutif between jean baptiste marion son miner of louis etienne marion farmer and genevieve st laurent and marie anne houle daughter miner of jean simon houle farmer and of deceased marie anne clesse

Re: COX / CRAWFORD

CanuckChef2012 — 2011-04-12 03:03:38Z

David Cox is my 3rd great grandfather and many of his descendants are buried in Mountain Grove, along with my grandfather Alexander Drew.

I would love to learn more about the Cox family and how they immigrated from Ireland and stayed in Saint Gilles, Quebec.

Mark.

Re: Jean Dion, Delina Pepin dit LaChance, Adophe Rousseau and Malvina Dugal

Julie_Emond — 2010-08-19 02:56:41Z

Hi,

I am presently trying to find someone that would be related to my great grand-father who's name was Odilon Rousseau and would like to know if it's the same Odilon listed in your message here.

Odilon Rousseau was born on March 30, 1905 in St-Narcisse and married with Yvonne St-Arneault and had one daughter that I know of which would be my grand-mother.

Please contact me at ashleybyanka@hotmail.com

Thank you,

Julie Emond

Re: James Magee, b. Nov. 1838 Saint Sylvestre Parish, Lotbiniere

melindaduffjohnson — 2010-07-03 00:12:53Z

It helps a lot- thank you!!!

Re: James Magee, b. Nov. 1838 Saint Sylvestre Parish, Lotbiniere

rascal789 — 2010-07-02 23:57:49Z

I am not related to this branch but I do have the names in my tree as possiblies for some day.

My French is not that great but I looked at the marriage record from Saint Sylvestre from October 20, 1857 and it does show that William McGee, farmer. was a son of age of Patrick McGee and the late Anne McCauley.

Bridget Martin was the minor daughter of John Martin and Anna Corrigan.

Witnesses were James McGee and Michael McGee (brothers of the groom) and James Hearne (friend of the groom) plus Mary Martin (sister of the bride), James Martin (uncle of the bride), Theresa McGee (friend of the bride).

Hope this helps.

Re: James Magee, b. Nov. 1838 Saint Sylvestre Parish, Lotbiniere

melindaduffjohnson — 2010-07-01 05:32:27Z

My great-great grandmother and grandfather were William and Bridget McGee, that you listed below - i was trying to find William's parents, but I couldn't read the certificate on ancestry.com very well

- I believe Patrick and Ann McCauley were listed on an earlier census with William, but they were MUCH older than him - how do I find out if they were the grandparents or the parents?

Thanks!

Melinda Johnson

Re: Patrick Monaghan and Margaret McDade

st9111956 — 2010-06-07 12:56:19Z

Hi TerrI am looking for the mother of Terry McDade born Jan. 12-13 1950- 1951 adopted through a Montreal childrens aide and adopted at age 5 to Cyril and Wanda Doran. Any infromation would be greatly appreciated. Sherri

Re: Laliberte & Roireau, Lotbinière

dancequeenskichick — 2010-06-02 17:43:51Z

Bonjour Jacques!

Je me demandais si vous avez n'importe quelles informations sur mon grand Joseph première génération Laliberte soutenu 1869 au Québec Canada ou sa fille Lucard soutenu en 1902 au Québec.
Merci,
Paige

Re: LaRoches in Lotbiniere

KathleenWilson948 — 2010-04-13 03:14:18Z

No help to date that has yielded any information on my Francis "Frank" Laroche...I have been out of town for a few days, so am sorry my reply is a little late. Any help would be sincerely appreciated, let me know what information I can give you! Thank you so much for your offer to help! Kathy
P.S. My email address directly is: jwilson4807@sbcglobal.net
Thank you again.

Re: LaRoches in Lotbiniere

cminiken — 2010-04-11 02:08:57Z

Have you received any help on this yet? If not, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Marie Ann Houle and Jean Baptiste Marion marriage translation please

lizzydow — 2010-02-10 18:28:02Z

Hello,
I am hoping someone will translate this marriage record for me? I do speak French fairly well, but Marie Anne Houle's mother is rather difficult to read. They were married in 1814 in Ste Croix Lotbiniere, Quebec. Their marriage is located in the lower left side of the scanned image.
Thank you!
Liz

LaRoches in Lotbiniere

KathleenWilson948 — 2010-01-22 14:54:34Z

I am searching for the birth parents of my gggrandfather who I believe may have come from the Lotbiniere area. His name was Francis LaRoche and his obituary in 1900 stated he left behind two brothers and three sisters who live in Canada. I believe he was born sometime between 1833-1836. He eventually left Quebec and went to Minnesota and married a Philomene dit Lacroix Corbin about 1863. I hope to find someone who is missing a brother, named Francis or Joseph Francis Laroche...a descendant that I have found said that his father told him Francis was from somewhere near Montreal but he knew nothing else. I hope to connect with someone who is missing a Francis Laroche...can anyone help me out? I have been searching for 9 years now and am at a loss...thank you!!! Kathy

Seeking info on Francis Donahue & Co.

adamcom1 — 2009-09-30 23:15:53Z

Hey guys, I have been reviewing the material from "St-Sylvestre se raconte" well as numerous online sources and have found little information on the Donahue's prior to John Donahue (1874-1950). For instance there is mention of 6 children from the Union of his father & mother : Francis Donahue & Hanna McCluskey yet only one name is given (Hugh Donahue) Anyone with additional info such as their county of origin in Ireland or the missing children's names would be greatly appreciated. In turn I still have a copy of the book, if only for a few additional weeks should you also be seeking info on your own familly line. I would be glad to help. Thanks !

Re: St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979

KSChamberlain — 2009-08-29 13:08:56Z

Hi Cindy,
I and a few others always felt that these Nelligans were related somehow- That paper sounds interesting! yes by all means contact me - off line if you like- tkschamberlain@yahoo.com

Re: St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979

ceeceedon — 2009-08-29 02:39:45Z

Hello Kim, I am related to another branch of the same Nelligans. My great-great-grandfather was Maurice Nelligan. He was Father James Nelligan's brother. I believe Michael Nelligan (Bridget's father) is another brother. In a paper called "Fear and Loathing in Saint-Sylvestre: The Corrigan Murder Case, 1855-58" which was written for a university degree, it states that Bridget Nelligan was the niece of Father Nelligan. Father Nelligan also had a sister named Bridget. I would be very interested in sharing information. Cindy

Re: St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979

KSChamberlain — 2009-06-29 11:09:55Z

Thank you both so very much for that information. My Bridget Nelligan was apparently born in CastleGregory, Co. Kerry and though they had different parents , I still feel the families may be related down the line somewhere. I wasn't aware that the book was also in English. Thank you both for your help. Kim

from Bridget and Richards marriage in 1837: ( Michael Nelligan ado Mary Black do Castle Gregory Comte' kerry en Erlandie)

I have Father Nelligans burial from the parish records and I am going to post to the "Nelligan" website if anyone wants to see it.

Re: St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979

pmpilon — 2009-06-27 15:07:52Z

Father James Nelligan was born 12 Sept. 1804, Dingle, Kerry, Ireland. He was the son of John Nelligan and Bridget Murphy. He died 24 June 1868 in St-Joseph de Beauce.

Re: St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979

rascal789 — 2009-06-27 14:58:53Z

The book is also in English. There is a likeness of the priest in the book but my cheep scanner comes up with a very poor picture.

From page 118 of the book:

"Father Nelligan was born September 12, 1804 at Dingle in Ireland: he studied for the priesthood at the seminary in Nicolet and was ordained September 26, 1830. He was first a curate in Quebec (1830-1836), than parish priest at St. Sylvestre from 1836-1851; he was also in charge of the mission of St. Ferdinand (1836-1843). Father Nelligan died June 24, 1868 at St. Joesph, Beauce, where he had been rector from 1856."

St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979

KSChamberlain — 2009-06-26 12:14:10Z

Hello Everyone,
I am hoping that someone could do me a huge favour. If anyone has a copy of St-Sylvestre se raconte : 1828-1979 (Bilodeau, Julien) could they look up a few items for me?
(I live in the UK and can not obtain the book through interlibrary loan or I wouldn't bother anyone)

I am looking for any information regarding Father James Nelligan of St. Sylvestre- namely, his origin. I know he came from Ireland but I am trying to discover where as I feel he may be related to another Nelligan relative of mine.
I would also like to know what the history has to say about any Kelly families ( origins - St.Nicholas /Ireland) Richard Kelly married Bridget Nelligan in St. Sylvestre in 1837.
Don't worry about the french as I can (eventually) translate it. Any information would be much appreciated. I know Father Nelligan moved to another parish around 1850 and died in 1868.
Thank you so much in advance.
Kim

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-29 03:27:35Z

Affinity is never determined by a relationship between two DECEASED spouses. One has to be living.

Regards, Dennis

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-29 03:25:55Z

However, as I stated previously, to find the relationship in affinity, one has to figure it out between the DECEASED first spouse and his/her relationship to the second LIVING spouse.

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-29 03:23:17Z

Affinity is by marriage; consanguinity by blood.

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

fiddletwist — 2009-03-28 17:41:46Z

Thanks for taking the time to look into this so far. I had not traced any info about Anne Forest because she is not part of my tree, so I didn't have that information on hand. I did post another reply to you correcting my misstatement about who was sibling to whom, and asking if affinity is by marriage and consanguinity is by blood? That is the point I'm actually unclear on.

The more I look at the Acadian censuses and registers, the more I realize everyone was related to everyone else!

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

fiddletwist — 2009-03-28 17:27:51Z

What I meant to say was that Joseph's BROTHER had been married to Madeleine's late husband's sister... Jean LePrince was married to Judith Richard, sister of Joseph Richard. I thought affinity came by marriage and consanguinity came by blood. For consanguinity, she and Joseph LePrince share a great grandfather, Jean Gaudet.

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-28 15:31:17Z

I traced out the dispensations, and actually here's the situation:

Anne Forest's maternal grandparents: Claude Dugas and Françoise Bourgeois were the siblings of Madeleine LeBlanc's maternal grandparents: Germain Bourgeois and Madeleine Dugas. Thus the dispensation should have been DOUBLE 3rd degree of affinity, since it is compounded twice by a brother-sister (Claude & Madeleine) and a sister-brother (Françoise & Germain) relationship here. That it is to the third degree is correct, but should be DOUBLE 3rd degree.

Joseph (Le) Prince's paternal great-grandmother was Marie-Anne Gaudet (wife of Etienne Hébert), sister of Madeleine's paternal great-grandmother, Françoise Gaudet (wife of Daniel LeBlanc), so the couple in this marriage record were indeed 3rd cousins, which required a fourth degree of consanguinity dispensation (quick explanation: 4th degree = 3rd cousins; 3rd degree = 2nd cousins; 2nd degree = 1st cousins; NO 1st degree = siblings)

Hope this is clear enough for your research.

Dennis

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-28 15:16:33Z

My error here, it should be

So how can a "RICHARD" be a sibling to a "FOREST"?

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-28 15:07:02Z

Please recheck this statement of yours: "the affinity issue is because Madeleine's deceased husband had been the brother of Joseph's deceased wife".

Affinity is determined through the LIVING spouse's blood relationship to the DECEASED previous spouse. So how can a "LeBlanc" be a sibling to a "Forest"?

The relationship for this dispensation HAS to come from Madeleine's being a second cousin to Anne! For the record, one must follow the rules of Canon Law en force at that time in determining these things correctly.

Dennis

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

fiddletwist — 2009-03-28 13:36:06Z

Thanks! The part that is most difficult to read is the part that I was most curious about - I thought it was essentially saying that she had had a child by Joseph already. I didn't see a baptismal record but I will go poke around in the register to see if I can see one. I knew there was a story in there but I was not positive I was reading it correctly. Her life had been very terrible for 5 or 6 years, she lost her husband and 4 of her 6 children in Quebec in Dec 1757 due to the smallpox, after having escaped there from Acadia. It would not surprise me at all that these bereft people got together.

I am pretty sure that the affinity issue is because Madeleine's deceased husband had been the brother of Joseph's deceased wife.

Thanks again.

Re: Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

dgfim22 — 2009-03-28 04:14:23Z

First, let me say that this is a terrible copy of the record, and extremely difficult to decipher due to words lost in the overfolds of the page, but here goes...

The year seventeen hundred sixty one, the twenty-sixth of October, after the publication of one bann of marriages made during the announcements of the parish High Mass, between Joseph LePrince, widower of Anne Foret (sic for Forest) living in the parish of Bécancour on the one part; and Magdeleine LeBlanc, widow of Joseph (in the fold) Richard living in this parish on the other part; not having found any other impediment except that of affinity to third degree (i.e., Magdeleine was a second cousin to Anne Forest) and consanguinity to the fourth degree (i.e., she was also a third cousin to Joseph (Le) Prince), and [handwriting here is difficult to decipher, but essentially it is saying he also baptized a child of the said Magdeleine LeBlanc, called Joseph LeBlanc]; the parties also obtained dispensation from Messire (Most Rev.) Jean-Olivier Brilland (sic for Briand), canon of the Cathedral of Quebec and Vicar General of the diocese on the 16th dispensing also (on 2nd of May?) the publication of three banns in the parish of Bécancour; according to the said dispensation here attached; I, the undersigned Recollect (name of his Order) priest, performing the canonical duties of this parish, have received their mutual consent and have given them the nuptial blessing in the presence of their relatives and friends, Joseph Jean Hamel and Augustin Gautrau (or Gautron) witnesses, Joseph Jean Hamel has signed, the others have declared they don’t know how to write. This inquest following the ordinance of the law.

s/ Joseph Hamel

s/ F. Francois Carpentreu (sp?), Recollect Priest

Please don't ask me to translate the Latin dispensation document; this French one was difficult enough, and I've read and translated hundreds of these over the years. Dennis B.

Re: James Magee, b. Nov. 1838 Saint Sylvestre Parish, Lotbiniere

CalBarb1954 — 2009-03-24 00:10:12Z

Hello Jim Moran: Always glad to hear from someone about the Magees!! It was a long search for me, when I finally finally found James Magee's birth, I knew he was from Quebec but never where.

To make a long story shorter...my husband & I went up there and found so much history; I have two books on the Parish, Lotbiniere & St. Pats I think. And I could see where Patrick Magee came with others from Ireland and received land.
We could not find out where exactly as it was Sunday and everything was closed.

Whether we are of the same line or not I don't know, probably I think.

My line is like this...and I can send you my file PDF or Family Tree Maker;
Patrick Magee (Irish) m. Ann McCaulay and they had:
John (who married HONORE MULLAVY ...could be Nora Mullany??)
James, Michael, Bridget, William & Theresa.

My guy being JOHN, I had only time to do his line. He married (as above) Honore Mullavy, 30 Jan 1837.

They had James (my great- grandfather) and Ann and probably others.
James came to New Brunswick from Que. & married a Geldart. They had a female child Annie Rose, my grandmother. I always thought it was such a pretty name...Annie Rose Magee.

Anyway, that's it for now. If you have questions etc. my email is craigs.BR@gmail.com or calbarb@nb.Sympatico.ca.

Good hearing from you anyway.
Barb Craig

Re: James Magee, b. Nov. 1838 Saint Sylvestre Parish, Lotbiniere

JimMoran2010 — 2009-03-23 22:03:29Z

Hello There,

I am a descendant of Thomas MORAN. My family is from St. Patrice de Beaurivage, next door to St. Sylvestre.
In my records I found a Thomas MORAN of St. Sylvestre (b:22 October 1936) that was married to Anna McGee(b:15 Feb 1943). They supposedily have a child by the name of Gannon.
I also have records as follows:
John McGee married Nora Mullany - child William McGee
William married Jane MORAN in 1877 and had seven children.
- this branch, again according to my records lived in St. Pats.
Jane was the daughter of John MORAN and Hannah McCrea of St. Sylvestre who were married in 1834.

If this helps out - let me know.

Jim Moran

Ste Croix entry hard to read - any good eyes?

fiddletwist — 2009-03-09 16:45:20Z

Hello - I have found an entry in the registers for Ste-Croix in 1761 that is relevant to my family history and appears to have quite a story attached to it - but I cannot make out everything it says! I do ok with the standard burial/marriage/baptism vocabulary but this is a marriage that required a dispensation for three reasons and I cannot make out all of the words. The scanned register in Drouin has most of the Latin dispensation page attached, plus a lengthy entry in French. If anyone is very good with reading this handwriting or has spent time parsing the Ste-Croix registers from this period, and would be willing to look at this image, I am attaching a .jpg to this post, or I can point you to the original location of the item in Drouin. Thanks in advance for any help with this!