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Gervais from Kingsey

Re: Gervais from Kingsey

Posted: 16 Jan 2010 4:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Jervah/Jarvah/Gervais
Hi,

You have my ancestor in this post. I am from the Frank Jarvah and Mary Ann Stevens marriage. I don't have a lot of information on my Jervah/Jarvah/Gervais roots. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Gervais from Kingsey

Posted: 19 Jan 2010 12:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
I have workwed on this line and I want to share with you.
Frank is an illegitimate child born as François Inconnu (Unkown). His maternal grandmother is his sponsor at his baptism at l'Avenir church but born at Kingsey on 24 July 1859. His mother is Emilie Beland. The maternal grandmother is Josephete Baribeau.
Frank is known as Francis and François. In the 1861 census, living with his mother Emilie Beland and my ancestor Louis Gervais married 2 years after Frank birth's.
Louis Gervais and Emilie Beland married Jan 8th, 1861 in Drummondville.
Later Louis Gervais died Dec. 12, 1867.
Frank is kwon as Jervah or Jarvah.
Census of 1871, Frank is kown as Francis Beland living with
his mother Emilie, grandma Josephte Beland (maiden name Baribeau) and a half-sister alos from an unkwon father: Mary Agnes born March 20 th, 1870 in Kingsey.

I have more to give you.....

about Frank died in Durham, Dec. 31 th. 1925 and is buried in St. James cemetery, South Durham.
His marriage to Mary Ann Stevens April 25, 1882 in the Methodist church of Melbourne. Mary Ann Stevens is buried in ths same cemetery, in 1938 and born circa 1851.
They have 5 sons: James Frederick in 1883, Curtis Henry in 1884, Frank in 1887, and the twins: Harold and Howard.

Do you have a subcription to Ancestry? If so, I could send you an invitation.

Could you give me your twig?

Warm regards Louise

Re: Gervais from Kingsey

Posted: 20 Jan 2010 6:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,

Wow! That's incredible! I have no problem giving you my branch. How do I get it to you? I use Roots Magic so I can send a gedcom. I am not a member of ancestory. How do you know that Frank was an illegitamite child? I was also told that Frank married twice and that Mary Ann is his second marriage. Do you have any info on that? This is very interesting.

In the 1901 Canadian Census he is on it with Mary Ann and Early as mother. Was that Mary Ann's mom? I always thought it was Frank's mom.

Do you have any idea when the last name went from Gervais to Jarvah? My grandmother in official papers is Jarvah but she wrote it as Jervah. The story goes that my Great grandmom Jemima Mills didn't like the way it was pronounced so she changed it to Jervah. But she left it as Jarvah for official government papers.

Amber

Re: Gervais from Kingsey

Posted: 20 Jan 2010 9:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,

I have Frank bap. certificate,
My ancestor Louis Gervais b. July 31, 1808 at St-Jean-Baptiste de Rouville, Qc.
His first wife is my ancestor: Marie-Louise Angele Bousquet/Bousquin. Their marriage : May 4 th 1829 in Drummondville. The first wife died: April 15, 1860 in Kingsey, Qc.
His second wife is Emilie Béland, Louis married her Jan 8, 1861 Drummonville. If Frank was his son he will have been legitimate by the marriage. But he wasn't.
Frank birth is : July 14, 1859 bap at L'Avenir church (not far from Kingsey) and he is born from unkwnown parents but Emilie mother's : Josephte Barbeau is the godmother of the child.
Census of 1861: Frank is known as François 2 years old, living with Louis Gervais (my ancestor) and Emilie Béland (Frank's mother) and few children of my ancestor from his previous marriage.

Louis Gervais(my ancestor) and Emilie Béland: have 5 children together: Etulien aka Emilien aka Maximillien in September 1861, Charles b in 1863 d 1863, Louis b 1864 d, 1864 and 2 daugthers who died yound: Elisabeth in 1865 and Marie Agnes in 1866.
My ancestor Louis Gervais, died Dec. 12, 1867 in Kingsey.

in 1871 census, Emilie Béland is living with her mother Josephte Bélannd (maiden name Baribeau) : and with Francois 12 years old known as Francois Beland and with her baby of 1 year old : Mary Agnes also born illegitimate born March 20, 1870 alos unknown parents.
Census of 1881, Francois is known as Frank Jarvais 22 years old living with his sister Agnes Mary 11 years old with the Placey family.

Census 1891 Frank is under Frank Jarvais with wife Mary-Ann and 3 sons: James 7, Curtis 6, Frank 4 (it's written Franklin instead of Frank for the 4years old boy)

Census 1901, Frank is with his wife Margaret Stevens, their children and with Emily (Frank's mother) on the census it says Early for Emily.

Census of 1911 in Montreal Emily Beland is no longer with his son Frank but she is living with her daughter Mary Agnes who is the widow of John Patrick Murphy with the grandchildren: John J, Matthew Murphy and Leo Patrick Murphy.

Census of 1911, Marbleton Frank is Frank Gervais with his wife Mary Ann and 3 children: James 28, the twins: Harold and Howard, 18 years old.

In the St James cemetery, South Durham: Frank is buried, he died Dec 21, 1925 in Durham and Mary Ann Stevens died in 1938 buried in the same cemetery.


To answer your question about Frank's marriage:
I don't think Frank married two times:
Frank married Mary Ann Stevens at 22 years old: April 25, 1882 and they lived all their life together until their death: Frank in 1925 and Mary Ann in 1938.

To answer your question: in the 1901 cenus Early is Emily Beland (Frank's mother).

To answer your question about the name Gervais and Jarvah:
When exactly the name went from Gervais to Jarvah, I don't know. But you see, Frank is French canadian, living in Eastern Township with a lot of English speaking, so the family name it was pronounced withe a G in french and a J in English. From Gervais to Jarvais and then Jarvah.

So your grandpa is James Frederick Jervah b, 188 Durham and married to Jemmina Eliza Mills. He died in 1959 and Jemmina in 1969. I found 8 children : Llyod Frederick in 1920, Viola Ellen in 1921, Ronald Stanley in 1931, Rhodho Helen in 1939 and Ralph Edward in 1939, Margaret Rose unkwon birth date, Freda unkwnown birth date and Clarisse aka Claire born circa 1925.

Where are your from Amber?

Warm regards, Louise




Re: Gervais from Kingsey

Posted: 20 Jan 2010 11:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
My grandmom was Chloris "Claire" Jarvah. Jemima and James were my great grandparents. I have all the info on their kids as it is my branch. I found the rest of my mills heritage from http://www.mcgregor-mills.ca/ The person who runs it is a Mills.

You are right! It is another one of my ancestors. Sorry about that.

I am from Rawdon, Qc and English! Which is funny! My whole branch is english! I didn't know I was quebecois de souch! Too Funny!

Where you from?

How did you find his Bap certificate? I have a lot of info from people but what they remember no actual paperwork. That was my next step. Any help in how to do this would be appreciated.

Was Frank adopted into the Jarvah family? Why does he keep changing names? This is very confusing.

Let me know how to send you my branch.

Amber Lawrence
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