thanks kim. i did not have all that info. somehow i stumbled on bessie and at first didnt think she was part of our boyle family. never never heard mention of her in any documents but she gave her one son the middle name nelder, so im sure she is. i think because she died relatively young, but i dont think the davie family kept in contact with the boyles. Robert remarried in 1898, and we found their marriage license. it said that his last marriage ended on 12/23/1876. thats the first i found a definative date of death for lydia nelder boyle. i can scan the license if you want a copy. talk to you soon, lisa