Thanks I will need to look into those churches. I still think Isaac was close enough to Hamilton to go to church there. Beth was born/christened in Hamelton. There were McMullens in Ancaster. I suspect they meet in a Hamilton church. Of course, I am not sure about where either lived. I am not real sure I know where he was born. He thought he was born in NY now I am suspecting maybe he did not. Saltfleet was loyalist country. Most came up before he was born. Do you know if many Loyalists settled in that region after 1812?