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Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 10 Oct 2009 12:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brown Chapman O'Reilly
I am searching for any information on Agnes Brown who received a deed to 165 acres made up of part of lot 259 and part of lot 260 in Thorold Township Her husband John Brown of the 60th and 62nd Regiments received a deed to 300 acres for his military land. Also need any members of their family.

Particularly interested in daughters. A Miss Brown married Patrick O'Reilly and lived with him in Wainfleet Township about 1807. They may have lived in Thorold Township before that.

Only one known child; John Brown O'Reilly who married Eliza Chapman, a daughter of Amos Chapman.O'Reilly was Clerk of the Municipal Council Wainfleet from early years until his death in November 1877.

Any clue to these people will be sincerely appreciated.
Thank you LH

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 27 Jan 2010 3:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brown Chapman Mcalpine Moore
I have from another post that John Brown O'Reilly and Eliza went to Michigan and are in the 1880 federal census, Tuscola, Tuscola Co., MI. I have not checked into this yet. I am interested in many O'Reillys who married into the Chapman family. Besides Eliza, Elizabeth O'Reilly married Alexander B Chapman, Mary married Abraham Chapman. Now there is Patrick in the generation before marrying into the Browns. Does anyone know how these O'Reillys from Welland County, Ontario are connected? Agnes Brown is the daughter of Alexander Brown and Hannah Palmer, all good Quaker families in Welland. Alexander b. 01 May 1769 in Ireland. I have quite a few Browns from that area.

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 27 Jan 2010 3:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
So I reread your post and you don't want my Agnes Brown but Agnes ? who married John Brown. I am transcribing some letters from Welland with Browns, Chapmans and Mcalpines and they mention going to visit Uncle John Brown at the Grand River and Uncle James Brown's family coming to visit while at Uncle John Ker's. I have the Ker-Brown family figured out but not John or James as there are too many of them in that area and I need a local researcher with interest in those families. I have had no luck yet. Also seems to be a lack of O'Reillys on the net too.

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 27 Jan 2010 3:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
I checked back a generation and Agnes is Agnes Glass/Glaise b. 1743 Kinnaird Parish, Perthshire, Scotland, d/o James Glass. Agnes and John have a daughter Mary Brown born 1770 probably Ireland and another daughter Hannah. It is the siblings of Hannah and Mary that are the James and John I am interested in. Their other brother Alexander is the one who married Hannah Palmer. It is his line that i have lots of info on.

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 27 Jan 2010 3:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: O'Reilly Brown
I received your e=mails this a.m. I have just returned from a time in hospital and cannot do much genealogy just now. I certainly appreciate the information you have given me. John Brown O'Reilly died in 1877 still working for the Twp. of Wainfleet. By tradition, he would have been about 70 years of age. Very little is known of his wife.
I will consult with another reasearcher in the Reilly/O'Reilly line and get back to you as quick as I can.
Thank you for your work and sharing, it is very valuable to have help with these questions. LH

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 11 Mar 2010 11:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
The Battle of the Plains of Abraham left John Brown “somewhat a cripple” and he returned to England to recover. Discharged John then went back to County Down, Ireland where he married Agnes Glass 1769. John and his family returned to North America as settlers about 1773-74

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 12 Mar 2010 6:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Many thanks for this information. Has anyone ever identified the British Regiment John was in at the time of his wounding? If so, there should be medical or discharge information in British records that would enlarge one's profile of the man. Thanks again!! LH

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 12 Mar 2010 11:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: FARR LINDABURY WADE AND OTHERS
My post comes what I have been told, and some of my own research, but please don't quote me. Alexander and Hannah are buried in our FARR cemetery, on the south side of the Welland River in Wainfleet. They, and other family members were originally buried on the Brown homestead, closer to Welland, still on the south side of the river. Their homestead was close to what we refer to as "Brown's Ditch". When the railway went through the Brown homestead in the 1800's, the bones were exhumed (IMHO, just their stones) and moved to the Farr Cemetery, with permission for re-burial, by my GR-GF Richard Farr. I have a document here somewhere, where he gives the permission. I have pics of their stones as they sit in the cemetery. They are getting hard to read.

John and Agnes lived directly across the river, from the Farr Cemetery, on the Pelham side. They are supposed to be buried in the back corner of a field, along the little creek, in a bush area. My brother and I raised hell years ago, when they put in a golf course on the old brown land. We contacted a gov't historical agency, as it seemed they were going to dig through the grave site. A "stop work" was put in place on the golf course, and the agency determined the burial site was not in harms way. I have old maps of Pelham and Wainfleet, showing where all Brown land was located. They were mainly on the north side, and there was a Brown's Shingle Mill, near O'Reilly's Bridge. I have German garlic growing in my garden, that came from Brown land. From my maps I was able to determine what the farm looked like back in the 1800's, complete with their orchards. The fruit trees are still there, but over-grown, so you don't notice them, unless you are paying attention. On one of my excursions there, I found their herb garden that still grows. This is where I retrieved some of the garlic seed. It is very potent.

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 13 Mar 2010 1:00AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Brown O'Reilly
Very Interesting, Indeed!! My relationship is by way of one
Patrick Reilly/O'Reilly who married a daughter of Agnes and John. Do you suppose there is any truth in the legend that Patrick O'Reilly had land on the Wainfleet end of O'Reilly's Bridge and that he built the original so he could court his favourite girl?? That would have been about 1804/05. Thank you for your interesting message LH

Re: Agnes wife of John Brown Thorold Twp.

Posted: 22 Dec 2010 10:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Does anyone know if John and Agness had a daughtor named Agnes? The information I have is that she was born in either Rhode Island or Delaware around 1769 and lived for many years in Virginia before moving first to indiana, then to Missouri. She never Married, but had children with a man named Martindale and another named Pennington
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