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Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 6 Apr 2015 4:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Boutin, Alfred, Alford
Hello,
My mom Lise Judith Boutin was adopted around 1967 in the Temiskaming District. She doesnt know a lot about her parents except that her dads name was Dorseith Boutin (indian) and her moms name was either Barbara Jean Alfred/Alford (French). My mom has three siblings, Oziel Boutin, Rose Boutin and Rob Boutin.

What I do know is her mother passed away in a way that I would believe would have been in a newspaper (She committed suicide by walking into a train around 1971). I live far away and am not able to access any local newspapers or records and don't know what else to do.

I am trying to get my family tree completed, but as both are deceased, I am hitting dead ends.

Thanks!

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 6 Apr 2015 8:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
I haven't been able to find anything on any of your names.
You are looking in a time period where not much information is available due to Canada's privacy laws.
Chances are if they were Indian and French, they would be Catholic but I checked the Ontario Druoin site but no luck. The records maybe haven't been transcribed yet.
Do you know the town they came from? If you can narrow that down, then you would be able to get church records. IF they were Catholic they certainly would have been baptised.
Were the other children adopted as well?
Get your mother's birth certificate and it will give her mother's name for sure.
Did her mother marry Boudin?

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 7 Apr 2015 2:57AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thanks for all your information satch42179! It is much appreciated! I believe they were from Englehart, Ontario. The story my mom has been told, is that they lived in a shack in a forest with no hydro or running water, and that is why they were originally adopted. My mom was adopted with her brother Rob, and then her sister Rose was adopted to a different family. My uncle Oziel stayed with the family until the mother died and he could move out. My mom has been baptized, but not sure if it was before or after the adoption. My mom has very little information, and unfortunately cannot find it since they had a flood in the basement (not sure if it was ruined or just lost). I believe at one time I saw a marriage certificate, so yes I believe they were married.

Sorry I can't give you any more information. I am just really interested in finding out more information about that side of the family. If I have to drive up north I will, but was hoping with technology I wouldn't have to. :)

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 9 Apr 2015 3:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Apr 2015 11:09PM GMT
Do you know where your mother's mom died?

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The correct spelling of your mother's father's name is Dosithee Boutin. This tree on ancestry has has him passing away in 2006 ??? Maybe try finding an obit in Sherbrooke, Quebec for Dosithee and his father Joseph Dosithee Boutin who passed away in 1979 ... see below.

http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/57412219/person/48021471524

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This other tree has Dosithee Boutin and Barbara Alford marrying in Englehart, Ontario on June 16, 1962.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=h...

The e-mai address of the tree owner is: mikegenea@hotmail.com
He listed his phone number .....
819-375-8714

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There was a Dosithee Boutin in Englehart in the Canada's Voters list but his wife's name is not listed in 1962.

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980

Poling Division 121, Marter

Name: Dosithee B Boutin
Occupation: Umberman TRANSCRIPTION ERROR - should read Timberman
Englehart Year: 1962
Location: Saint-Jean, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District: Timiskaming

It refers to Marter Township .....
Marter Township is an unincorporated geographic township in the Unorganized West part of Timiskaming District in Northeastern Ontario, Canada. The township is named for George Frederick Marter.

The mouth of the Englehart River at the Blanche River is located in the township; the Blanche River flows from the northwest corner to the south centre border of the township. The community of Marter is in the centre of the township. Ontario Highway 624 runs north-south through the middle of the township.

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980

Poling Division 126, Marter

Name: Dosithe Boutin
Occupation: Labourer
Year: 1968
Location: Saint-Jean, Ontario,
Canada Electoral District: Timiskaming

Also has a Mrs. Marie Rose Boutin and Mrs. Jean Boutin listed.

http://interactive.ancestry.ca/2983/33022_302713-00425/22218...

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Dosithee's Aunt married in Englehart, Ontario .....

Marie-Olivine Boutin
Birth 10 Nov 1904, in St-Camille, Wolfe, Quebec, Canada
Death

Marriage Date
19 Jul 1969
Location
Ste-Trinité, Engleheart, Timiskaming, Ontario, Canada

http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/57412219/person/48021473454

Dosithee's father died in Sherbrooke so perhaps he went home to be with his family .....

Joseph Dosithee Boutin
Birth 30 Mar 1910 in St-Camille, Wolfe, Quebec, Canada
Death 11 Nov 1979 in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada

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Canadian Phone and Address Directories, 1995-2002

Name: Dosithee Boutin
Street address: 987 Rue Galt O
City: Sherbrooke
Province: Quebec
Postal Code: J1h 1z6
Phone Number: 819 563 7068
Years at Residence: 1998 1999

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Canada 411 has 176 Boutin's in Sherbrooke, Quebec

http://www.canada411.ca/search/?stype=si&what=boutin&...


Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 9 Apr 2015 9:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Apr 2015 11:36PM GMT
Some of your family is buried here ..... maybe call the cemetary to see if your Dosithee Boutin is buried there.

St. Michael Cemetery
635, rue Saint-Michel
Sherbrooke (Québec) J1E 2L2
Phone: 819 562-5233
Fax: 819 562-5640

BOUTIN DOSITHEE this would Joseph Dosithee - your Dosithee's father.
1979-11-11 Died
12-EST-S Lot Number

Use the search deceased feature.

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=h...

CHABOT VIRGINIE
1968-02-02 Died
178-OUEST-O

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Maybe Dosithee Boutin married in the Holy Trinity Parish (1908) in Englehart in 1962.

http://www.dioctims.ca/our-parishes/holy-trinity/

Address: 61 Sixth Avenue P.O. Box 608 Englehart, ON POJ 1HO
E-mail address: holy.trinity@outlook.com

You may have to contact the following for records .....

CENTRE DIOCÉSAIN – DIOCESAN CENTRE
65 Jubilee Avenue East
Timmins, ON P4N 5W4
Tel: 705 267-6224 Fax: 705 267-6226
E-mail: dioctims@ntl.sympatico.ca

ARCHIVES ..... Contact, GROLEAU, abbé Sébastien chanctim@ntl.sympatico.ca

Site Web Site: www.dioctims.ca


Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 9 Apr 2015 11:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 9 Apr 2015 11:43PM GMT
Could this be him?

With a photo .....

http://federationgenealogie.qc.ca/base-de-donnees/avis-de-de...

BOUTIN, Dosithée À Asbestos, le 22 septembre 2004, est décécé monsieur Dosithée Boutin, à l'âge de 65 ans, époux de Thérèse Héroux, fils de feu Dosithee Boutin et de feu Délima Poirier. Afin de respecter les dernières volontés de monsieur Boutin, il y aura incinération. Le jour des funérailles, la famille recevra les condoléances des parents et amis en présence des cendres au: Centre funéraire Nouvel Horizon Coopérative funéraire de la Région d'Asbestos 240, rue du Roi, Asbestos (Québec) Tél.: 819-879-4842 - Téléc.: 819-879-7582 Sans frais: 888-871-4842 Aline Richer, conseillère aux familles Courriel: www.alamemoirede.com Heures de visites: Samedi le 25 septembre 2004, de 11 h à 13 h. Il y aura par la suite une cérémonie au salon à 13 h 00. Les cendres seront déposées au cimetière d'Asbestos à 13 h 30. Outre son épouse, monsieur Boutin laisse dans le deuil ses enfants: Robert, Rose, Lise Boutin; Nicole, Lise Boucher; ses petits-enfants: Britany, Joshva, Dany, Guillaume; son beau-frère et ses belles-soeurs: Fernande, Fernando, Rita; de nombreux neveux, nièces, cousins, cousines, autres parents et amis. La famille désire remercier le personnel et les infirmières du Centre Hospitalier de la M.R.C. d'Asbestos, pour les bons soins prodigués à monsieur Boutin, merci particulier à Marcel et Jeanne d'Arc Boutin, pour leur support. Paru le 2004/09/24 dans La Tribune UXSW3594

Translated from French to English so there are a few errors .....

Name: Boutin
Name: Dosithée
Date of death: 2004-09-22
Released: 2004-09-24

Father: Boutin Dosithee
Mother: POIRIER Délima

Spouse (s) (s): Thérèse Héroux

Boutin, Dosithée In Asbestos, September 22, 2004, décécé

Mr. Boutin Dosithée, age 65, husband of Theresa
Héroux, son Dosithee Boutin and fire Délima Poirier. In order to
respect the last wishes of Mr. Boutin, there will
incineration. The day of the funeral, the family will receive
condolences to relatives and friends in the presence of ash: Centre
New Horizon Funeral Funeral Cooperative of the Region
Asbestos 240 King Street, Asbestos (Québec) Tel .: 819-879-4842 -
Fax .: 819-879-7582 Toll Free: 888-871-4842 Aline Richer
Advisor families Email: www.alamemoirede.com Hours
visits: Saturday, September 25, 2004 from 11 am to 13 pm. There will by
Following a ceremony at the show at 13 h 00. The ashes will be deposited
the cemetery of Asbestos at 13 h 30. Besides his wife, Mr. Boutin
survived by her children: Robert, Rose, Lise Boutin; Nicole Lise
Butcher; his grandchildren: Britany, Joshva, Dany, William; his
in-law and her sisters: Fernande, Fernando, Rita; many
nieces, nephews, cousins, other relatives and friends. The family
wishes to thank the staff and nurses of Hospital
the Asbestos RCM, for the good care of Mr.
Boutin, special thank you to Joan of Arc and Marcel Boutin for their
support. Released 2004/09/24 La Tribune UXSW3594
Published in: Cyberpresse - La Tribune, Sherbrooke, QC
Address: http://www.federationgenealogie.qc.ca/base-de-donnees/avis-d...

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 10 Apr 2015 1:51AM GMT
Classification: Query
This is remarkable! Thank you so much! We have been looking for this information for awhile now! I am going to try and figure out where her mother passed away so we can find out more information about her as we know nothing about her.

My french is a little rough, so I appreciate you translating it for me! It is interesting that he didn't have a lot of contact with my mother and aunt/uncle and they are mentioned in the obituary.

You have no idea what this means to me. I really appreciate this!

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 10 Apr 2015 1:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
I just confirmed with my Aunt and Mother and that is his obituary!

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 10 Apr 2015 10:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 10 Apr 2015 11:50AM GMT
Tell me what you can about the death of your mother's mom. Approximate month, year and was she buried in Englehart? Does she remember anything about Barbara's parents. Any clues or leads may help in searching for info.

To find out more about Walter Alfred/Alford and Augusta Thornton by obtaining any marriage info on Barbara Jean and Dosithee's marriage will aid in the search. Try contacting the church above to start.

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After Dosithee's mother died I think his father remarried a Rose Arsenault in 1943.

From this gravestone inscription.

Saint Michael Cemetery
Sherbrooke, Quebec

Boutin, Dosithée b. 1909, d. 1979 husband of Rose Arsenault

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=h...

See this book .....

http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=h...

Re: Looking for some help with Boutin last name.

Posted: 26 Apr 2015 2:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, Sorry for not getting back to you sooner! I was trying to get some more information for you about Barbara.

The only information that I have about where she passed away is that she died in Cookshire, Quebec in 1977 or 1978. She committed suicide by walking in front of a train.

Hopefully that can help you! Have a great day!
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