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Re: 1901 census & Carruthers

bakerj1511 — 2013-05-19 22:55:41Z

Thanks again for your help. I'm hoping to visit the Parry Sound area in a couple months so will keep searching.

Re: 1901 census & Carruthers

satch42179 — 2013-05-19 22:14:42Z

I haven't found any on line maps for Spence but have a look on Google.
IF not, write to the land office in Parry Sound and see what they can do for you.
Doubt if they do research anymore but maybe.

Re: 1901 census & Carruthers

bakerj1511 — 2013-05-19 21:01:39Z

Thanks so much. Looks like 1911 is easier to work with. (I'm still learning the Canadian records). That location seems to correspond with the 1901 also.

That leads to the next question - are there online historical maps showing the Lots/Concessions?

Re: 1901 census & Carruthers

satch42179 — 2013-05-19 07:09:11Z

Can't help you with 1901 census but this is their address on 1911 census.

Con 8 and 9
Lots 35 and 35

1901 census & Carruthers

bakerj151 — 2013-05-18 23:57:15Z

I'm trying to determine where on Christie Rd (Hwy 518 now) the John Carruthers family lived. I need to request assistance from someone experienced with using the 1901 census to interpret the results.

I've learned that the 1901 census has a part 2 that gives the location of the family home. John Carruthers is listed in Muskoka & Parry Sound/Spence page 1,line 8. But when I try to view corresponding part 2 on Ancestry and on CollectionsCanada, I come up with 2 different results for address.

If anyone has access and time to check my work, I would appreciate confirmation that Carruthers is located at:
b. Con 9, Lot 34. This is what I come up with at CollectionsCanada.

If this is right - what is the "b"?
If this is not right - I would greatly appreciate being corrected!

Thank you for any suggestions or assistance,

Lyn

Re: STARR family

satch42179 — 2013-05-15 06:13:15Z

WW1 Attestation

Harvey Starr, b Burks Falls, 15 June 1895, next of kin: Mrs Aggie Starr of S Porcupine, electrician, signed up at Niaraga 7 Sept 1915.
He was 5'4", dark complexion, blue eyes, black hair, presbyterian.

Where did he come from? He is not on 1901 census.

Haven't found a birth registration for either this Harvey or the one born 1902.

Headstone Tisdale Cemetery, Old Section, South Porcupine
Agnes Foster, wife of Fred Starr died 30 June 1929, aged 67.
Death Rego

Agnes Starr, b 10 July 1868, Ontario, aged 60, died Toronto General Hospital, 30 June 1929 of pyenephrosis/septis, d/o David Foster born England and mother not given, informant: Frederick Starr of South Porcupine. Burial: South Porcupine.
Says there was an operation and autopsy.
Registration #005436, Toronto York.

Looks like they stayed in South Porcupine. Cannot find much else on them.

Re: STARR family

satch42179 — 2013-05-14 22:43:51Z

Found a few things on your Starrs and am sending it now before I lose it again.
Will look further for them.
So far no luck on 1911 census

From Ancestry.ca

Births listed for child/ren of Frederick Augustus Starr and Agnes Foster,
Frederick Starr 19 Sept 1900, Parry Sound District
Hazel Evalyn, 9 Jul 1902, PS District
William Ernest, 19 July 1909, Burks Falls

Also listed are child/ren of Frederick Augustus Starr and Elizabeth Foster. Agnes/Eliz may be same person

Urania Beatrice, 8 April 1884, Mariposa Victoria County
Susan Lila, 27 Dec 1885, Mariposa
Norman Augustus, 19 Jun 1899 Mariposa

WW1 Attestation Papers
Regimental # 1006967
Milton Starr, b Burks Falls 19 July 1898, living South Porcupine, chauffeur, next of kin: Fred Starr of S Porcupine, signed up in Timmins, 22 Aug 1916.
He was 5'1", fair complexion, blue eyes, brown hair, small scar on right side of nose near right eye.
Nothing to say he was killed in the war.
Milton is Frederick? Maybe lied about his age to enlist.

Marriage:

Frederick Starr, 20, born and living Mariposa, s/o William Starr and no name Fulford, married Elizabeth Foster, 17, b Whitby, living Mariposa, d/o of David Foster & no name Clark, witn: Charles Tait and Emma Moore both of Mariposa.
Groom is RC; bride Methodist. 25 Oct 1883 Mariposa Victoria County.

Hazel Starr, 21, b Oshawa?, living South Porcupine, d/o Fred Starr and Agnes Foster, married Asa Laffin,23,s/o Benjamin Lappin & Isabel Fenton, b Nova Scotia, living S Porcupine, witn: Rupert Sheppard of S Porcupine and Lillian Roy of Timmins, 25 July 1923 at Timmins.
Also says bride's father born Oshawa.
She was born likely Burks Falls as per birth rego in PS District.

Harvey Starr, cooper, 24, b West Falls, s/o Fred Starr and Agnes Foster, married Amy Fox, 21, b Bradford England, 11 Dec 1926, witn: Annie Baker & Eva Rhodes, Point Edward, Lambton County.
Bridegroom's father born Valencia Ont.
Valentia is in Mariposa Tsp so I guess this is part of your Starr family.
Don't see any West Falls on Ontario locator so could be Burks Falls?

1881 census Mariposa has a David & Agnes Foster with heaps of children, including Agnes aged 16, and Elizabeth 14.
So maybe Eliz died and Fred married Agnes?

Re: Hildebrandt, Ted & Dan

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-12 07:49:18Z

?????????
Name: Ted Hildebrandt
Street Address: 2456 Martin Crt
City: Burlington
Province: Ontario
Postal Code: L7p 2v2
Years at Residence: 2000

Hildebrandt, Ted & Dan

flowers991 — 2013-05-11 20:14:12Z

Hildebrandt, Ted & Dan

Hello group, I don't know if anyone on this Parry Sound board is able to help, but I thought I would ask my question anyway. I am looking for LIIVING relatives who are in the Parry Sound area. My wish is to add them to my husbands family tree, and to learn more on their branches. I have one picture of Teddy & Danny aged about 3 or 4 years old

My husband has a brother Peter Lafleur who married a Diane Lauzon in Sudbury in 1965, Ont. Unfortunately in the late 1960's they split up and life goes on. My husband has carried a picture of the two boys in his wallet all these years, the picture is almost a rag now, he really misses his nephews and wonders what became of them. I am sure the boys born abt.1966/67 have no memory of their fathers relatives and might want to learn about their roots.

I hope I have not offended anyone with my request, I thought PERHAPS, someone here might even know the family and can pass along the message that we are looking for them and they are not forgotten

Any suggestions greatly appreciated

Cheers

Sheila Stewart-Lafleur

Re: HINES

tjrho2121 — 2013-04-10 23:55:31Z

I am his ggg-grand daughter thru his daughter Luceinia Augusta Hines Goodall Ferguson. I've been trying to locate info on Henry & Margaret's parents. Also, family history tells that there is Blackfoot ancestry in this line somewhere?? Stumped, any help would be much appreciated! Heather

STARR family

leow_greene — 2013-04-10 18:26:47Z

I am looking for any information about Frederick STARR family that lived in Burk's Falls in the 1901 census. Thank you

Re: James Norman Arthurs and Johannah Eady George

jejjmc — 2013-04-01 19:30:35Z

Here is a copy of the obit for Gerald Winton Arthurs:
Gerald Winton Arthurs, 80
Morrisburg resident Gerald Winton Arthurs died in Winchester Hospital on Sunday, Nov. 28, 1999 after a brief stay in the hospital. He was 80.
He was born on January 9, 1919 in Ottawa to the late James Arthurs and Johanna Arthurs (nee George). He was a grandson of Senator James Arthurs of Parry Sound.

Mr. Arthurs had lived in Parry Sound, Prescott and Toronto before settling in Morrisburg 25 years ago.

Mr. Arthurs spent 33 years as a civil servant with the Ontario provincial government. During his career, he spent nine years at Osgoode Hall and four years with the Centennial Planning Committee as assistant director. The rest of his career was spent as marketing and communications director for the St. Lawrence Parks Commission.

He was a former member of the Prescott Masonic Lodge, the Morrisburg Curling Club and the Canadian Club Quarter Century Club.

He was affiliated with Knox Presbyterian church.

On Jan. 9, 1943, he married Vivian Arthurs (nee Lawrence) at St. Andrew's Presbyterian Church Manse in Prescott.

Mr. Arthurs is survived by his wife as well as by his daughters Patricia (Bruce) Campbell of Ottawa and Wendy (Peter) MacGregor of Morrisburg. He will also be missed by his grandchildren Jennifer, Jonathon and Jordan, as well as by his many nieces and nephews.

He was predeceased by brothers Jim, Monty, Kenneth, Ralph, Ted and John and by sisters Patricia Knapp, Francis Labrie and Kathryn Ann O'Connell.

During his 18 years of retirement, Mr. Arthurs spent many hours at the hockey rink and baseball diamond cheering for his grandsons. He enjoyed many Florida vacations with his wife and best friend Vivian. Mr. Arthurs was a devoted family man.

Friends called at the Marsden and McLaughlin Funeral Home in Williamsburg on Nov. 30.

The funeral service was held in the chapel of the funeral home on Wednesday, Dec. 1 at 2 p.m. Rev. Greg Blatch officiated.

Interment of cremated remains was at Blue Church Cemetery near Prescott. - The Prescott Journal, December 8, 1999.

Re: James Norman Arthurs and Johannah Eady George

jejjmc — 2013-03-31 14:23:36Z

Johannah Eady George was the daughter of Samuel George and Frances Armstrong. Frances was the daughter of Christopher Armstrong and Margaret Johannah Eady.

My great grandfather John Armstrong was a brother of Frances.

I am doubly related on the Armstrong and the Eady side.

Re: James Norman Arthurs and Johannah Eady George

mynanakat — 2013-03-31 05:41:33Z

These were my grandparents and they had several more children. I found this post looking for information on them. My mother Frances Elizabeth was estranged from her family after she married., so my information is incomplete. To my knowledge, there were Gerald, Frances, Ted, Patricia, Kathryn, and John in addition to the older 3. John, like his brother James was a physician. he was the youngest. They may have been living in Prescott Ontario by then. Ted was a lawyer in Prescott prior to his death. Patricia married a well-known Canadian actor. Gerald managed Upper Canada Village in Morrisburg, for years. Kathryn married and raised three boys perhaps in Brockville? Why were you seeking information?

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

satch42179 — 2013-03-28 02:19:48Z

Was Howard Mark Boler her uncle?
Sometimes people were classified as niece, nephew, etc even if they were just close family.

1881 census has a Mark H Boler, 9, born Belfast, as grandson of a Mark Walker whose daughter is Mark's mother, Elizabeth Boler, widow.
There is also a daughter named Effie/Ellie, aged 13 b Derby Cheshire.
No sign of Walter.

1891 census Kidbrooke London
Walter Harold Boler , 21, b St Marys Nottingham, is a patient in what appears to be a military hospital as his occupation is given as 'driver Royal Artillery'.
Hospital is Hirbert Hospital [military], Shooter's Hill Rd, Killbrook.

On rereading Walter's marriage rego to Ann, parents are given as John Boler and Elizabeth Walker so I guess he and Mark were brothers after all.

I have not found a Walter and Howard Mark in the same family on census.

Don't see the Bolers on 1871 census but if Mark was born Ireland, perhaps father was in the army and they are living there at the time?

1911 census gives Mark H as being born Ireland as well.

Where Gertrude was in 1911 census was a 'receiving home for children', Mill Hill Lane Leicester. Howard Mark Boler was the head of it.
Says he is married but no wife in sight.

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

getzwriter — 2013-03-28 00:51:49Z

Thank you again. Found it -- and I'm not surprised at the mistakes.

We do know they left their daughter, Gertrude, behind with her uncle Howard Mark Boler. Will take awhile to untangle the story, I expect.

Hate to keep pumping here but my own efforts haven't been as successful. Did you find the immigration info on Ancestry or elsewhere?

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

satch42179 — 2013-03-28 00:32:46Z

Go to www.automatedgenealogy.com
Click on 1911
Click on Parry Sound District
Click on B for Boler [ or name that resembles it]
This is a different site from Ancestry.ca

On Ancestry.ca go to 1911 census
Perry Sound District [spelt wrong] Wallbridge, Byng Inlet, North and South.
Look under Fred Boler, b 1898, b England.
They have the first names pretty well screwed up. I sent in corrections.

Walter Harold Boler and Ellen Elizabeth Ecclestone's marriage was registered Jun 1894 quarter in Thanet.

1901 census does not have James with them, only Fred W, and Sydney H.
Maybe he wasn't a son but a cousin/nephew? Or maybe this couple just left children behind.

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

getzwriter — 2013-03-28 00:05:37Z

Just "Boler" would not work for me.

Also could not find the 1911 Census for Byng Inlet on Ancestry. Did I overlook it somehow, or was that found elsewhere?

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

satch42179 — 2013-03-28 00:01:08Z

No, I just typed in Boler.
You can get the records from the government which may or may not give some more information.

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

getzwriter — 2013-03-27 23:55:22Z

Wow, thank you!

I had the enlistments, but I could never find anything when I tried the Soldiers of the First World War database. Did you try different spellings for "Boler"?

The 1911 Census for Byng Inlet is interesting in that my friend's mother, Gertrude Alice Boler, was born in 1902 in England, but left behind by this family, to live with her uncle. We have yet to discover why.

Thanks, again. Will pass this on to my friend.

Re: Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

satch42179 — 2013-03-27 23:20:13Z

WW1 Attestation #104752
Frederick Walter Boler, b 2o Dec 1897, Leicester England, box maker, next of kin: Walter Boler, father of Byng Inlet.
He enlisted at Regina 22 Sept 1915.

Enlistment #2 #2006237
Frederick Walter Boler,of 242 Main Street Winnipeg Manitoba, b 20 Dec 1897 at Chatham Ont,clerk, next of kin: father Walter Harold Boler of Byng Inlet.
Previously in 68th OBCEF.
Enlisted at Winnipeg 16 May 1917.
He was underage in 1915 so was discharged.
He was 5'6", fair complexion, grey eyes, brown hair, no distinguishing scars.

Sidney Herbert Boler, Simcoe Hotel Toronto, b Birmingham England 30 May 1899, next of kin: Ellen Elizabeth Boler of Byng Inlet, teamster, single.
# 2499381.
He was 5'9', fair complexion, grey eyes, light hair, Church ofEngland, scar left knee, scar left wrist, scar back of neck.
Signed up in Toronto, 13 Nov 1917.

No record of either of them being killed in the war.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100....

According to 1911 census Byng Inlet there were more children.
BOLER
Walter, July 1868, 43, England, immigrated 1910
Helen, Oct 1872, 39
James, Jan 1897, 14
Fred, Dec 1898, 13
Sydney, May 1900, 11
Gladys, Feb 1910, 1
All born England.

1911 is the last census released.
1921 census is suppose to be released in June of this year.

Sidney H Boler
Date of Arrival: 31 Mar 1919
Vessel: Empress of Britain
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Britain' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Roll: T-14837

Here is something on Ann Boler
Canadian Passenger lists 1926.

Ann C Boler, widow, 42, b Pembroke Dock Wales,previously in Canada 1919-1926 at Pine Street Collingwood Ont, music teacher, housewife, contact: Mrs Ann Morrison 74 Kingsley Ave West Ealing Wales.
Cecily M Boler, daughter, 5, of Collingwood Canada, travelling with mother.
Ann Morrison is a music teacher on her marriage rego so this is likely her.

Did not find anymore on any of the Bolers.
Checked US 1930 census, BC archives, Manitoba Vital Stats.

Boler Family -- Byng Inlet

getzwriter — 2013-03-27 01:29:21Z

I'm helping a friend look for British relatives who emigrated to Ontario in the early 1900s.

They wound up in Byng Inlet, where her great-grandfather, Walter Harold Boler, was the police magistrate. His wife, Ellen Elizabeth Eccles, died in 1918. They lost a baby son, John Willie, in 1918, and had two older sons, Frederick W. and Sidney Herbert, who enlisted in the Canadian Over-Seas Expeditionary Force.

Walter Boler remarried in 1920 to Ann Coutts Morrison and died two years later.

The sons don't show up on web sites about Canadian soldiers. The parents and their baby son are buried in the old Byng Inlet cemetery. Ann Boler disappeared after burying her husband.

Any other information or suggestions would be much appreciated.

C. Getz

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

smorgan00180 — 2013-03-25 16:16:51Z

Hi,
I don't have info on Robert Jr or family. I haven't found anything specific. I know they lived in Pakeham, Ont. and his brother John moved to Parry Sound.

sorry
blessings,
sue

Re: Jacklin Family (Foley Township)

davidjcooper45 — 2013-03-18 23:01:20Z

Edith Victoria Jacklin was my materna grandmother. You will be interested in knowing that her middle name was actually Valerie and not Victoria.

david

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

robtait57 — 2013-03-12 02:33:28Z

Hi Sue. Please contact me re: Robert Tait jr info.
Thanks.

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

smorgan00180 — 2013-03-12 00:38:12Z

Hi Jenny,
Sorry I haven't been online in a bit. Yes, Robert Jr is the son of Robert and Jane. I don't believe Robert moved to Parry Sound but another son John Henry did. He is my great great granddad. I have some info on Robert but will have to look it up and send it to you. I found a Robert Tait buried in a cemetary in Northumberland Ca. I think it was Union something but again will have to research some for you. Keep in touch and remind me if I fail to write back on this. Also I was in touchc with Chuck McFadden through ancestry and he is a direct descendent of Robert JR.
Thanks,
Sue

McNamara's from Clogh, Kilkenny to Ontario, Canada

rbmac2009 — 2013-03-10 10:05:35Z

I'm looking for any info about a John McNamara who married Bridget Talbot, somewhere in Kilkenny, Ireland. My sources say that John was born and died in Kilkenny. About 1850, because of the potato famine, Bridget, and her 17 children sailed to Montreal, Canada. They, then moved to Ontario, settling around Adjala. Some of them are still living in Adjala, Albion, Toronto, Orillia, Stratford, Kingston, Parry Sound, Penetanguishene, and nearby towns. Some families have since moved to the States, and living in Buffalo, NY., and Detroit, Michigan.

If anybody can help me, I would really appreciate it. Thank you, Rich

Re: George Allen Burkes Falls Ontario

sandptoon — 2013-03-07 15:00:17Z

Hi
yes birthdate and place of birth are correct, he did not take his children or wife with him. My grandmother his wife died in england without seeing him again in 1943.He married his second wife in Canada but I do not know any details of her or the marriage..
Regards
Shar

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

jflegg1 — 2013-03-07 14:56:49Z

Would your Robert Tait Jr(born 1858?) be the son of Robert Tait and Jane Smith?
I don't have any info on them or descendants and would love to fill it in.
I do live a town away from where I think the Tait's had settled here in Eastern Ontario. (Pakenham)
There's still too much snow to go cemetery trooping, but I had hoped to do that this year.
The Tait's really are a fair distance off my main branch, but I still feel a need to follow them. (probably because several families, including these ones, moved from here to Parry Sound District, practically together), and so much of my own tree is Parry Sound related....hence following up on many branches.

I have nothing else at the moment on the Sr Robert Tait or his wife Jane. I don't know if they died here, and buried here, or went to PSD too and died there?
My guess is buried here though, and I hope to verify that in the coming months.
If there's a stone, I'll get a pic and send you a copy.
If you could please fill me in on Robert and Cecelia's kids? and perhaps grand kids as they relate to your line?
Thanks in advance, and talk to you soon
Jenny

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

robtait57 — 2013-03-07 02:55:46Z

Hi. I am a geat-grandson of Robert Tait Jr. and Cecilia Lawson. I would love a pic of Robert's father's headstone if one is available. Also I am looking for info as to where Robert Jr's father was born in Ireland, and any info on Jr's brothers and sisters and their family trees. I am in Toronto, and have info re Robert Jr's childred, grandchildren etc. Thanks... Robert Jr/Jr/Jr.

George Allen Burkes Falls Ontario

sandptoon — 2013-01-18 12:16:51Z

Looking for information on a Mr George Allen 1886 - 1974 born London.
Arrived in canada around 1921 any info on date he arrived would be great. He married a lady called Annie whom I have no details of. He lived in Burkes Falls and was a member of the Canadian legion.

Thanks.

Re: George Allen Burkes Falls Ontario

satch42179 — 2013-01-14 22:53:51Z

There is no George Allen on Voter's List for Burks Falls in 1935.
Did not see a marriage for him and he is not in the Burks Falls cemetery or any immediate cemeteries that I could find.
Also there are several George Allens who arrived 1920/22.

Re: George Allen Burkes Falls Ontario

ELLinSpain — 2013-01-14 19:36:04Z

have you a definitive birthdate & place? did he marry Anie England or Canada? Children went with him on voyage??

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

johnpeachsea — 2013-01-08 19:00:09Z

Hi Marilyn,
Go to the Wilson/Warmington Family Tree. The Groves Family Tree is huge. That is another cousin (Myrna) I have been doing a great deal of communicating with and what you sent today we had already received from Myrna. She has tons of info. My husband John and I are planning a trip to Canada this summer to connect with the Groves family. I'm very excited, it's dream come true for me. I'll absolutely stay in contact with you. My mother was very secretive when it came to my father. She really didn't like him and only ended up punishing me for their problems. That's just the way it was back then.

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

questor4u2 — 2013-01-08 18:01:44Z

Hi Mary: I have attached a few photos: Gibson Groves,
Austin Reginald Groves, Lloyd Groves Certificate, and Nellie Esther Wilson Groves obituary notice. I do have other photos of the groves family which I will also send to you. Will be doing more research regarding your father Lloyd Groves. Thnaks Marilyn (nee Groves)

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

johnpeachsea — 2013-01-07 22:05:13Z

I'll look about for any pictures. I don't believe I have any for Gibson or Nellie..

Mary Esther Groves-Sea
Acampo, Ca

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

questor4u2 — 2013-01-07 20:45:03Z

Thanks so much for the picture of your father Lloyd and mother Mary. I have some pictures of my father Alvin Leslie Groves with his mom and a brother. I will send along to you for your files. Also I have some pictures of my grandmother and grandfather(Gibson Groves and Nellie Esther Wilson Groves) which would be your dad's mother and father.
I don't know wether or not you have any pictures of Gibson or Nellie Esther Groves. Please advise. Thank you
Marilyn (nee Groves).

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

johnpeachsea — 2013-01-07 20:38:01Z

Hello cousin Marilyn -

I just recently posted a picture of my father (Lloyd) and your uncle (Lloyd) in my family ancestry (Groves/O'Dewa Family Tree) I would be happy to share this tree (or picture of him) with you.

Mary Esther Groves-Sea
JOHNPEACHSEA@YAHOO.COM
Acampo, Ca

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

questor4u2 — 2013-01-07 19:17:20Z

Thanks for your reply. I have most all information about my family (groves). I am still trying to obtain information regarding your father Lloyd R Groves (my uncle).
Alcoholism ran on my father's side of the family. My father Alvin Leslie Groves, his sister Ellen Margaurite Groves,
Austin Robb Groves, were alcoholics. Upon my fathers sobriety (20+years)I wasn't able to obtain much information regarding the family. If there is anything else in the groves family you need please let me know and if I have information will certainly pass on to you. Thank you.
Marilyn (nee Groves) daughter Alvin Leslie Groves (niece Lloyd Groves.)

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

johnpeachsea — 2013-01-05 23:42:30Z

Lloyd Robb(Robert) Groves is my Father. That was his garage in 1949 and I was 1 year old. It was located at Granville Island. My father disappeared around 1964 or so. I am searching for his place of death. Any information will gratefully be accepted.
Peaches Mary Esther Groves-Sea

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

satch42179 — 2013-01-05 23:23:34Z

You likely have all this information.

Grace Helen Groves, b Ont, 24, d/o Gibson Groves and Ellen Wilson married John Nairn Donaldson, b Scotland, chemist, s/o Robert Wallace Donaldson & Agnes Nairn, witn: Cyril Edward McBride of Toronto & Ruth K Hartwell of Toronto, 14 March 1925 at Toronto.
John Donaldson was living 149 Alamdea Ave Cleveland USA at time of marriage. Grace was living 31 Homewood Ave Toronto.

There is a Lloyd R Groves Vancouver BC, garage repairs on 1949 Voters' Lists.

Gibson, Mrs G and Edwin Groves are all still in Parry Sound on 1935 Voter's list.

An Edwin Groves, machinist, is still on Voter's list in Parry Sound in 1972.

Lloyd may be mentioned in his parents' obituaries or his brother's.

Edwin J died 1974, wife Dorcas died 1991.

Gibson died 1944.

Both are in Hillcrest Cemetery, Lower Level, Block M, Town of Parry Sound.

World Connect Groves family tree have both Gibson and Ellen buried in Fergus Ont. He dieing in 1941 and she in 1940.
Fergus is in Wellington County.
There is a Mary Gibson Groves buried in same place.

http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php

Parry Sound Hillcrest Cemetery

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~murrayp/pa...

Canada 411.ca lists two Groves in Parry Sound.

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

johnpeachsea — 2013-01-05 21:18:44Z

Hi Marilyn.............

My name is Peaches Mary Esther Groves Sea. I am the youngest daughter of Lloyd Robb Groves and your cousin. My father disappeared around 1964 or so. He had a very long history of alcoholism. Long story short. he married my mother (Mary Jereldine O'dea) in 1944 in Vancouver B.C., she was pregnant with my sister Roberta. I was born in 1948. We moved to Reno, Nevada in 1956/57. My parents divorced and he went missing. I have been trying for many years to find his place of passing. It's a difficult search. I loved my father so very much and I think of hyim often.

Hope to hear back from you soon.
Peaches

Re: Lloyd Robb Groves

questor4u2 — 2013-01-05 20:24:32Z

I am daughter of Alvin Leslie Groves whose brother was Lloyd Robb Groves. Any information regarding where and when he died I am still trying to get. Thanks Marilyn
will forward on to you.

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

smorgan00180 — 2013-01-04 17:23:18Z

Jenny,
Upon further reseach if have found numerous William Wood in family. Do you know his date of birth I'm sure I can identify the information if it is in my tree.
Blessings,
Sue

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

smorgan00180 — 2013-01-04 05:15:31Z

Hi Jenny,
John Henry was my great great grandda, my great gd was William Francis. To the best of my knowledge Mary Moore was his second wife but Sarah Jane Fanny Hunt was his first wife and mother to my geart gd. I have info now on John Henry's father Robert and have found the gravemarker in Lanark are cemetery just yesterday. John Henry's brother Robert Jr married Cecilia Lawson who also was related to Fanny. I am still looking into Fanny. I'm not positive but William Wood could be my grandfather's brother. My grandda being Norman T Wood who married Francis Aurita Tait my gd ma. Let me know if I can be of further help. Robert and family emmigrated from Ireland about 1850ish to Lanark and John Henry brought family to Parry Sound.

Re: TAIT, ONT

ELLinSpain — 2013-01-03 18:01:14Z

sorry, no rellie

I live in England, now, was in Spain for a few years and very disliked it so, nice to be "home"

Have a safe & contented 2013

kind regards
Ell

Re: TAIT, ONT

smorgan00180 — 2013-01-03 17:19:57Z

Wow,
Great I was able to find gravemarkers for John Henry and Mary Moore so thank you so much. Are you related to them?? Where do you live?? I am in NY near Buffalo but still have many Canadian relatives.
Blessings and wonderful wishes for a grand New Year
s

Re: TAIT, ONT

ELLinSpain — 2013-01-03 09:42:48Z

I think, it goes like this:

john Hnery Tait:

Name: John Tait
Birth Place: Ireland
Residence: Pakenham Township
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Father Name: Robert Tait
Mother Name: Jane Smith
Spouse Name: Fanny Hunt
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1846
Spouse Birth Place: Fitzroy Township
Spouse Residence: Fitzroy Township
Spouse Father Name: Frances Hunt
Spouse Mother Name: Sarah Hunt
Marriage Date: 16 Oct 1866
Marriage Location: Pakenham Township
Marriage County or District: Lanark

LATER, John Henry married a Mary Moore as

Name: Myrtle Tait
Date of Birth: 5 Jan 1888
Gender: Female
Birth County or District: Parry Sound
Father's Name: John Tait
Mother's Name: Mary Moore
Archive Name: Archives of Ontario
Archive Series: MS929
Archive Reel: 89

Name: Myette Sophia Tait
Birth Place: McKellar
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Father Name: John Tait
Mother Name: Mary Moore
Spouse Name: William Edward Taylor
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1881
Spouse Birth Place: McKellar Tp
Spouse Father Name: Edward Taylor
Spouse Mother Name: Marjory Manson
Marriage Date: 6 Jun 1906
Marriage Location: Parry Sound District
Marriage County or District: Parry Sound

Name: Myrtle Sophia Taylor
Death Date: 16 Sep 1929
Death County or District: Parry Sound
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birth Location: McKellar, Ontario

as per
1891
John Tait 44
Mary Tait 40
William F Tait 19
Myrtle S Tait 3
Province: Ontario
District Number: 95
District: Muskoka and Parry Sound
Subdistrict: McKellar and Hagerman

1901
John H Tait 53
Mary Tait 49
Myrtle S Tait 13
John Robt Tait 8
Province: Ontario
District: Muskoka & Parry Sound
District Number: 91
Sub-District: McKellar
Sub-District Number: C(1)-2

1911
John H Tate 64
Mary Tate 56
John R Tate 18
District: Perry Sound
District Number: 108
Sub-District: McKellar Township, McKellar Village
Sub-District Number: 23
Place of Habitation: McKellar

on all census barring 1 John Henry states b Ireland

1851
Name: J Tait
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Birthplace: Ireland
Province: Canada West (Ontario)
District: Lanark County
District Number: 19
Sub-District: Pakenham
Sub-District Number: 185
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1861
Name: John Tait
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Birth Year: 1845
Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Single
Home in 1861: Packenham, Lanark, Canada West
Religion: Church of England
Film Number: C-1042-1043
Page Number: 11
with
ROBERT IRELAND 44
JANE DITTO 40
MORIAH DITTO 18
JOHN DITTO 16
THESE BORN UPPER CANADA
JANE 15
JAMES 13
WILLIAM 12
FRANCES 10
CATHERINE 8
MARGARET 5
ROBERT 3
SOPHIA 2

Robert was married to Jane Smith as per Margaret's marriage

Name: Margaret A Tait
Birth Place: Pakenham, Ontario
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Father Name: Robert Tait
Mother Name: Jane Smith
Spouse Name: Henry Carpenter
Spouse's Age: 23
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1858
Spouse Birth Place: Cornwall, Ontario
Spouse Father Name: David Carpenter
Spouse Mother Name: Theresa Scott
Marriage Date: 22 Feb 1881
Marriage County or District: Lanark

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CATHERINE'S
Name: Kate Tait
Birth Place: Almonte, Ontario
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Father Name: Robert Tait
Mother Name: Jane Smith
Spouse Name: George B Meader
Spouse's Age: 34
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1856
Spouse Birth Place: Iowa US
Spouse Father Name: James Meader
Spouse Mother Name: Martha Lemon
Marriage Date: 18 Sep 1890
Marriage County or District: Stormont

MARY MOORE TAIT passed away 23 Feb 1922 McKellar Twp, Parry Sound District, ON
father William Moore born Ireland, mother Jemimah Robb or Rabb, born Co Tyrone, Ireland. William Edward Taylor, her son in law was the informant.
buried
Lakeview Cemetery, McKellar, Parry Sound Dist. ON, Canada
also in this cemmetery:
JOHN HENRY TAIT DIED 1919

JOHN HENRY & FANNIE'S DAUGHTER
Name: Sarah Jane Tait
Birth Place: Canada
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Father Name: John Tait
Mother Name: Fannie Tait
Spouse Name: William Henry Thompson
Spouse's Age: 24
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1862
Spouse Birth Place: Canada
Spouse Father Name: Edward Thompson
Spouse Mother Name: Jane Thompson
Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1886
Marriage Location: Parry Sound District
Marriage County or District: Parry Sound

sorry its a bit jumbled - prob best if you print this off and then cut into a proper time line

Re: Lanark Families - arrived in Parry Sound District abt 1870's onward

jflegg1 — 2013-01-03 02:57:59Z

Hi Sue
This is the beauty of the internet.
We can connect and help each other.
I see several other replies too with info in them, it will be a help in your search and will help fill in some gaps on my tree.
I do have a bit on the oldest Tait, Robert Tait, but not sure how much. I'll have to look.
Cheers and will keep in touch
Jenny

Re: TAIT, ONT

smorgan00180 — 2013-01-03 00:47:02Z

Wow,
Thank you so much for all the information. Are you related to this family??
Would you share the website that you were able to obtain this information if it is now on ancestry.com.
blessings, you are very helpful and I appreciate your help.
I'm having a hard time finding information on William Francis Tait's grandda Robert. Would appreciate any info on him you might have also.
be well
s