Thank-you
I do think this Ester Gardiner (b1851) is some how related to my Ester Ann thru marriage but have not found a firm link, only supposition and a hunch.( Believe her husband John was either uncle or brother to Henry Gardiner(Ester Ann's father). zi have not found anything listing his siblings, to confirm.
Thomas Haines and his sister Charlotte did take George and Grace out of orphanage and kept them with them till they were of age to leave, and listed them as nephew and niece ( again my hunch of link to Haines other than good people)
Both George and Grace took Haines as surname instead of their birth Cooper surname (no one thought to ask why when they were alive)
I did hear in family stories that WJ Long had 2 children of his own and that was why he placed George and Grace in orphanage when Ester Ann died.
this all seems to fit, so will did a bit more with this, thank-you!