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Esther Ann Gardiner Marries W J Long

Esther Ann Gardiner Marries W J Long

Posted: 29 Dec 2014 6:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Gardiner Cooper Long
Looking for any information on Esther Ann Gardiner (b. abt 1878 England) widow of George Henry Cooper (who died 20 Jun 1913). She is listed married to a W. J. Long according to her death certificate.
Esther died in 25 Feb 1914 in Parry Sound, Ontario of leukaemia.
Esther had 2 children (George & Grace) by George; who Mr. Long put into an orphanage when she died.

These children were raised by a Haines family in Stisted, Ontario who I am told are related to Gardiners??
Any information regarding these names is appreciated.

Re: Esther Ann Gardiner Marries W J Long

Posted: 29 Dec 2014 11:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
There is a family tree on Ancestry covering Esther owned by sharongardinermorris.
http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/45058037/person/6384879857

Re: Esther Ann Gardiner Marries W J Long

Posted: 10 Jan 2015 11:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
thank you, most of their info is same as what I have! It is still a bit of a mystery; especially who this WJ Long was??

Re: Esther Ann Gardiner Marries W J Long

Posted: 11 Jan 2015 5:54AM GMT
Classification: Query
You were looking for a Gardiner/Haines connection. Here is one.
Death:
Esther Gardiner, b 24 April 1851, died 1 Feb 1914, lot 23 Con 1 , housewife, d/o Edward Haines b Mallow County Cork Ireland and Margaret Fraser b Limerick Ireland, inf: John Gardiner of McKellar, under cause it says 'see original medical ????. Hagerman, Parry Sound District.

George Cooper died in insane asylum in Toronto. Only one I could find listed that died on the date you have given.

George and Grace are with Thomas Haines on 1921 census in Georgina York County as nephew and niece.

George Henry Cooper was born 20 Jun 1901 York Ontario s/o George Cooper and Esther Ann Gardner.
He married under the name George Henry Haines.
Mary Isabell Grace also was married under the name Haines.
According to Ancestry these children were also born to George Cooper and Esther Gardiner.
Mary Isabella, b 2 Dec 1904
Dorothy Helen, 7 Mar 1903
Mary Isabella Grace, 2 Dec 1904- same as above

1911 census Parry Sound
LONG
William, b Dec 1872, Ireland, engineer, immigrated 1873
Ester, Jun 1879, England, immigrated 1881
George, June 1901 [same month as George Cooper]
William, Sept 1907
John, May 1909
Could this be your Esther and George is George Cooper? If that was the case William and Esther were never married.
I have not found a birth rego for William or John.

Re: Esther Ann COOPER nee GARDINER Marries W J LONG

Posted: 11 Jan 2015 6:03AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: COOPER, GARDINER , LONG
Hi, You know that Esther Ann GARDINER b aprox 1878 in England
Widow of George Henry COOPER - dcd June 20 1913
Married to W.J. LONG - between June 1913 - Feb 25 1914
REGISTRATION of MARRIAGE - will show full name of Bride and Groom
Date and Place of marriage - age at marriage - names of both sets of parents including - maiden names of mothers - etc.

Death: February 25 1914 - Parry Sound Ontario
REGISTRATION of Death for Esther Ann LONG ,prev m COOPER nee GARDINER
Depending on requirements of the time - and knowledge of the informant
Will show personal information about "Esther Ann including the name of her husband -
Search of Voters list - may show the full name for W.J. LONG -
OBITUARY if published may show full name of W.J LONG -
HAINES family put in charge of children -George and Grace COOPER
There may be paperwork - showing the full name of W.J. LONG

Re: Esther Ann COOPER nee GARDINER Marries W J LONG

Posted: 14 Jan 2015 1:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank-you will keep looking, it is just W.J Long on death Certificate. Haines family who knew the children are long gone.

Re: Esther Ann Gardiner Marries W J Long

Posted: 14 Jan 2015 2:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
Thank-you
I do think this Ester Gardiner (b1851) is some how related to my Ester Ann thru marriage but have not found a firm link, only supposition and a hunch.( Believe her husband John was either uncle or brother to Henry Gardiner(Ester Ann's father). zi have not found anything listing his siblings, to confirm.

Thomas Haines and his sister Charlotte did take George and Grace out of orphanage and kept them with them till they were of age to leave, and listed them as nephew and niece ( again my hunch of link to Haines other than good people)

Both George and Grace took Haines as surname instead of their birth Cooper surname (no one thought to ask why when they were alive)

I did hear in family stories that WJ Long had 2 children of his own and that was why he placed George and Grace in orphanage when Ester Ann died.

this all seems to fit, so will did a bit more with this, thank-you!

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