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John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Jan Hart (View posts)
Posted: 19 Mar 2003 11:36PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Maine, Mains, Bishop
Hello,
I am trying to track down a John Maine who was from the Philadelphia area, perhaps even born in there, 1750 to about 1760. He was supposedly of Dutch descent. Married the daughter of an officer whowas with the British side of the American Revolution [perhaps surname Green], so John may have been a so-called "Loyalist". Anyway, he moved to Canada, which is where his daughter Eleanor/Elenor married Stephen van Renssealaer Bishop 22 Feb.,1832 in London, Ontario. Their witnesses were Arch and Alex Campbell. They were both living near Aldborough. Stephen was 21, Elenor was age 20.

By the way, should someone go looking for the Bishop/Mains
marriage connection at LDS, the official records from which they were downloaded {all the marriage information for London, Ontario,] has her name spelled ELENOR MAINS.

Thanks for any help.
Jan Hart

Re: John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Posted: 20 Mar 2003 1:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Oct 2005 2:28AM GMT
Surnames: Green, Belcher, Main, Hopkins, Simcoe, Ryckman, Markle, Bishop
Hello Jan,
I'm not related to the family, just trying to help.
Best Wishes,
Carol

Source: The Ontario Register, Loyalists in Ontario, Sons and Daughters of American Loyalists, pg 133:
GREEN, John of Flamborough West, m Mary
Children:
Ann, m John Belcher of Grantham, OC 11 July 1806
Daniel of Flamborough West, OC 15 Nov 1808
Susannah, m John Main of Flamborough West, OC 6 April 1811
Hannah, baptized 2 Feb 1793; m Caleb Hopkins of Nelson, OC 2 March 1816
John Simcoe of Flamborough West, OC 7 Aug 1822, m Susannah Ryckman
Sarah m William Markle Jr of Flambourough West, OC 28 Oct 1835
Nancy baptized 2 Feb 1793
William of Flamborough West, OC 1 March 1832

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Source: The Ontario Register, Vol IV, Palmyra Cemetery, Orford, Kent, pg 24:
Bishop. Eleanor wf of Stephen V. Bishop d. Sept 6 1874 ae 62 yrs & 10 ms
Bishop. Stephen V. d. Aug 19 1879 ae 67 yrs 11ms 23 dys
NOTE: There are several other Bishop's buried in close proximity in this cemetery.

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According to the OCFA web-site, there are several Green Family members buried in Grove Cemetery, Flamborough West, Wentworth County, Ontario, including John Simcoe Green and his wife Susannah Ryckman. I don't have any dates or further information.

Re: John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Posted: 7 Mar 2004 8:13PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am searching for a John Main/Maine who was a Loyalist during the Rev War.My gggggrandfater Philip Main from PA was a federalist and was in George Washingtons Army.After the war brother John stayed with Philip awhile then went to Ont.Canada.We have found nothing about him since.Any help would be appreciated.

Re: John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Jan Hart (View posts)
Posted: 7 Mar 2004 9:25PM GMT
Classification: Query
John Main(e) b. abt 1750 was married to Eleonar Larris [more likely Eleanor Lawrence] 15 Feb, 1785 in Oldwick NJ at the Zion Luthern Church [records online] his name is spelled Mahn.

Then in Will Abstracts of Sussex County NJ,
MAINE, John of Knowlton. 613S - W. 20 Dec 1792; Filed 26 Jul 1794. Wife: Eleonore. Sons: John, Adam and the yougest, Phillip. Daughter: Mary. Others: Widow, Margaret Lawrence (rel not stated). Executors: Wife, Eleonore MAINE and friends, Andrew BANGHART and Bernhart BANGHART, Jr. Witnesses: John FAUNCE, George SHERRY and William MOLLAT.

I have a goodly bit about the children who went to Canada.
John jr b. abt 1786 married Susannah Green had 5 kids
Adam b. 23 Aug 1787 married Margaret Wedge or Weaver
they had 9 children
Philip no definite dob, some say married a ??Weaver
Mary Main married Samuel M Congo and had at least 2 sons.
Now we come to David.
David is supposed to have been born in 1799, but there is a will dated as written 1792 and proved 1794 for John sr. [b. abt 1750] and although he lists the first 4 children David is not listed, however, I believe he was born after the 1792 and just that the will was not rewritten or amended and he was born no later than 1795.
David married Elsie Weaver and had 11 Children.

If you need any more about the above, let me know. My husband's family descends from John Main and Susannah Green.

Jan Hart

I figure Margaret was HER mother. This Margaret was originally a MEANS another of the common Main/maine mispellings. She was married to Adam Lowrance/Lawrence about 1745. She might well have been our John's aunt or cousin.

Re: John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Carol Main Walsh (View posts)
Posted: 8 Mar 2004 4:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Main/means/mahn/mayne
Do you know if John had a brother nameed Philip born 1747 lived in PA died in 1835 in Beaver County Pa north sewickley township.His wife was Clory Ann Rough.Do you know who Johns parents were????

Re: John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Jan Hart (View posts)
Posted: 8 Mar 2004 5:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 6 Sep 2008 7:04PM GMT
Surnames: Main, Maine, Mahn, Mein
Hi Carol,
No, I cannot come up with parents as of yet. Supposedly John Mahn/Main/Maine was of DUTCH descent.

Now that could have been English who went to Holland in religious persecution times from England, or he might have been of German descent who went to Holland in the religious repercussions from Luther, or he may have been genuinely Dutch!

Since Philip of 1747 in Gloucester NJ, was from the area which was at one time Philadelphia County PA, and my family notes mention Philadelphia, I am of a mind to associate the two as Brothers...in view of geographic proximity, time line, and naming schemes [John and Philip had very similar naming patterns for their children].
I have loooked at other Main family naming patterns , Ezekial etc. and found little likelihood of a connection although Anything is possible!!!!
The John I found would have been born about 1750. Now the most likely candidate for Philip and John's parents would have been JOHANNES GEORG MAHN/MEIN/MAIN who came into the USA on board the Harle, Sept 1, 1731 into Philadelphia and who went on to live in Sussex co. NJ [if I remember it all correctly] Johannes was born in abt 1715 as his age on The Harle was listed as 16. Some other researcher mentioned that there was a very large number of people in the Netherlands named Mahn.

So, I am trying to track down a set of parents with the multitude of Mahn/Main/Mein spellings in that NJ PA area.

I am at harthaus@athenet.net if you would like to continue this privately.
Reegards,
Jan

Re: John Maine and dau. Elenor Mains of "near St. Thomas, Ont"

Carol "Main"Walsh (View posts)
Posted: 8 Mar 2004 9:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Main/mahn/Mayne/
Jan',
Thank you,Thank you,this is the nearest we've ever come to finding out about our family before Philip 1747.My cousin has a site that I have sent lots of photos,poetry,etc; to.You really might enjoy it please feel free to log in.
main-family.com I will keep in touch with you at your email address.I'm going to forward this info to Jan Main at the family web site.Her son Kevin is a whiz at tracking the folks we are looking for.Thanks again.
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