Thank you for your reply. I have found them on the various voters lists as well. What is confusing is that the Simpson tree (Carleen Simpson) has them with 4 daughters and 1 son. I think Ellis and Phyliss married after 1935 when he returned from England so any children should be still alive. Perhaps they moved out as soon as they were legally able to which is why there is no record. It is a puzzle which I would love to solve!! Regards Valerie