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William Murray of Glen Falloch Indian Lands Charlottenburg Glengarry

William Murray of Glen Falloch Indian Lands Charlottenburg Glengarry

Posted: 16 Apr 2014 2:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Jul 2015 8:54PM GMT
Surnames: Murray , McCallum , Young , Christie , Clark , Ross
Seeking to share info on my gggggrandfather William Murray Sr. of Glen Falloch . This is a work in progress so as always subject to change . William Murray and wife Christian Christy McCallum arrived at what they named Glen Falloch on 15 Oct 1775 . This is prior to any of the UEL settlers from NY . This William never claimed UEL status , compensation , or land grant . He carved out a home for himself , by himself with no neighbours . William Murray Jr. was born 1775 d. 15 Oct 1815 . The influx of UEL settlers started circa 1783 and by 1786 Patrick McNiff had Mapped out the Lots of Glengarry , Stormont, and Dundas , and they had been parcelled out to the UEL settlers ; [that is to say the front few concessions of each county] minus a 2 mile wide western strip of Glengarry which was to be an Indian Reserve , and was thus known as the Indian Lands .
William and Christy Murray had unknowlingly settled on what would later become known as the Indian Lands and is still Glen Falloch west of Martintown Glengarry . There was apparently a group of McCallum [and most likely other Scots] {possibly relatives of the afore mentioned Christy McCallum] who arrived circa 1795 and also settled on these Indian Lands north of William Murray Sr. William Murray Jr. married Isabella McCallum [b. circa 1776 d. 1848] on April 14 1801 St Andrews Williamstown . His younger brother Malcolm Murray married a Jennet Ross on 8 August 1805 .
Children of William Murray Jr. and Isabella McCallum are :
Janet Murray b.23 Feb 1802 d. 28 Nov 1873 m. Robert Young b. 1800 d. ???
Ann Nancy Murray b. 25 Nov 1803 d. 27 May 1887 m. George Young b. 1796 d. 1856
Mary Murray b. 11 July 1807 d. 24 Nov 1902 m. Simeon Christie b. 1809 d. 17 June 1870
Donald Murray b. 18 Oct 1808 d. 28 Nov 1892 m. Margaret Clark b. 24 Mar 1821 d.27 May 1904
Dougald Murray b. 1816 d. 12 April 1889 m. Nancy Christie b. 1820 d. 4 July 1898

I would like to acknowledge the great amount of work that my late cousin Marland Murray did on researching this family , and to ongoing steady work of cousin Colleen Kinnear Newbold .

Join in to offer corrections or ommissions .

Re: William Murray of Glen Falloch Indian Lands Charlottenburg Glengarry

Posted: 18 Apr 2014 9:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
I notice in Petitions & Land Grants there is a William Murray Ref: M 5/38 Land Petition Glengarry 1797 on Reel: C-2194. Came to Canada in 1794, he was of Scotland.

Tal

Re: William Murray of Glen Falloch Indian Lands Charlottenburg Glengarry

Posted: 19 Apr 2014 11:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Happy Easter Tal and thank you for the lookup . This search is probably going to be like an Easter Egg Hunt . I went to World Connect Rootsweb , entered William Murray and got 17238 hits . Then I went to the Message Boards and typed in William Murray Scotland in the all boards box and got 2451 hits . Pretty large Haystacks .
My Murray grouping seemed to stick mainly to the Indian Lands [where some still are located at Glen Falloch] . They might even be referred to as squatters . My cousin Marland Murray did find a Rent agreement for some two hundred acres of land , which I presume was located at Glen Falloch , but the description of the site is made difficult because there were probably no roads . McNiff's Map 1786 shows the Indian Lands of Glengarry as void of settlers , yet this William Murray settled there in 1775 . His rent agreement was dated St Regis 29th March 1793 , and was signed by four Indian Chiefs , an R. MacDonell and William Gray interpreter and a "hen scratch" I take to be William Murray . Rent was two Dollars [American ?] and three bushels of wheat , each year , forever . It seems that on the 5th of July 1799 William Murray sold part of this land [or maybe part of his leased land] to Hugh McDiarmid .
It was not until 1836 that some 70 other Indian Land settlers [including many other of my Ancestors] made a Land Petition to the Crown dated Glengarry 8th January 1836 and requested Patents for their land , at a sum to be determined "fit" by the Crown .
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