James,
I am a MacDonald of Loup and I am stepping forward but have not idea what you want. I have Father John's personal papers and he was a great genealogist and with this information I have been able to trace my line back to Adam & Eve but have never noticed a dark period of 100 years. When was this period exactly? Also our MacDonald's of Loup came from Knoydart and I believe that is in the Highlands.Let me know what info you need?
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Tal,
Thank you for responding to my somewhat confusing query. here are some of my questions: 1. I have from "Father John" that I descend from Kenneth of Roderick of John of John of Angus of Neal of Angus of Dougall of Ruari of Ian Ruadh of Neil of Angus Budhe of Ewan of Charles of Hector Og of Hector Ard of Alistair Mor, Laird of Loup. Beyond Roderick, I have no information about these names, such as names of spouse and children, date of birth and death, etc. Do you?
2. As I understand it, we are actually members of clan MacAlister, not clan McDonald. Is this your understanding?
3. Regarding our MacDonalds of Loup coming from Knoydart, I ask what is your evidence for that statement? I have certainly believed that, but without direct evidence.
Thanks for your response,
James McDonald
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Knoydart was where Fr John and the rest came from. They were on the Pearl, I am from much the same line. Many were related and went to a Brant farm in NY. These people were known as Tackmen on the Glengarry estate so your name should have two l's at the end of the name< sarcasm off >. They had money and were better off than others who later followed after the kind Mrs MacDonald replaced them with sheep. Barbra Mathews wrote a book about the UEL. PS watch out for a blue screen offering SOAP from Microsoft it is a take over program.
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Rod,
Father John MacDonald of Knoydart was born on the farm of Shenadach which is a few miles from Inverie in 1782 and came to Canada with his father John Roy and family in 1786 on the Ship MacDonald or "Sandaig" as it was also called. These were not UEL and did not come to the USA.They came with their priest Rev Alexander MacDonell. My mother's name is spelled ending in two l's. Many MacDonell's did come on the Pearl to the US and then to Canada.By the way Father John was my first cousin.Also what is meant by SOAP from Microsoft??
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James,
The "Kenneth" you refer to that begins your tree is my first cousin and the second John is my 4th Great Grand Uncle. I show he was married to a Mary MacDonald and he had a brother named Ruari and my line comes down from him He had a son Angus Ian III, then Roderick Taylor, John D, Danny John, John Lawrence and myself. There are no recorded spouses for any of these fine gentlemen except the Mary MacDonald I gave you.I do have recorded many children if you want them let me know. I show Angus with 6, Neal with 4, Angus Buy with 2, Dougall with 4, Ruari with 7, Neil with 2, Hector Og with 2, and Alistor Mor with 5. Hector Og has one recorded as Unknown Loup MacAlister. This may be where some confusion comes from regarding the MacAlister line. We are of Clan Donald and more specically Clan Ranald. The Father John you quote is my first cousin and was born in 1782 on farm of Seanachaidh near Inverie on Knoydart. He came to Canada on the ship MacDonald in 1786 with his family. My great grand father Roderick Taylor was born a few miles away in the same year on a farm called Salachary. Father John's brother Aeneas also became a priest and was a professor of theology in Montreal. In August 1804 he wrote to his first cousin Roderick Taylor on behalf of Roderick's father John asking why he had not joined his family in this land of peace and plenty. Roderick got the message and came shortly afterwards. I have a copy of the letter written to Sgt Roderick MacDonald, Salachary, North Britian Knoydart Scotland. Roderick was discharged from the Glengarry Highland Fencibles.Many MacDonald's and MacDonell's came to Canada from Knoyart and today there is only one small village of Inverie with about 60 people. I plan to visit there next spring.
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I believe that there were 2 or 3 McRaes that came with the McDonells in the 1786 emigration. Farquhar McRae was married to a McDonell. There was also a John McRae about whom I can find no information. Any ideas?
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Anne,
Without more information it is hard to zero in on your MacRae. There is one Farquhar MacRae buried St. Raphael's 05 May 1829 Lancaster 7 Lot 19 Farmer Died 15th this month at 60 years of age.Present Archibald MacDonald, John MacRae and Finlay MacRae. There is no passenger list for the ship MacDonald so it is hard to know if they came with this expedition or not. The Dictionary of Emigrants to Canada before Confederation does not show either MacRae coming to Glengarry as most came to NS or PEI. There are a few who came to other counties of Ontario and also to Quebec. Many MacRae's came in 1815 from Glenelg Scotland and others by way of North Carolina.
If you have any other details let me know.
Tal
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Norman Crowder's book lists 3 McRaes coming with the McDonells in 1786 as Sundry Emigrants from North Britain. The Farquhar you noted is likely one of them. But I am more interested in the ones that you say came from North Carolina, because that is part of the oral history of my family. Can you add to this?
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Anne,
My cousin Inez MacDonell is married to Ken MacRae and they live in Glengarry. His MacRae's came from North Carolina but I do not know the details. I can ask him if you wish.
Tal
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Thanks Tal, but it is a small world. Ken McRae is a very distant cousin of mine and we are both researching the same family. Perhaps I could ask an additional question. There is a Peggy Chisholm who died in 1858 on our property in Kenyon and an Isabel Chisholm who died in 1843 and Father John's Diary gives a sketchy family line, do you think that you might have more information about that family? Thanks, Anne
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