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MacDonald's of Loup

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 6 May 2010 3:39AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McDonald, MacDonald
Ann,
No, I have not. Of course, the term loup in MacDonalds of Loup refers to Kintyre. From the charts in Father John's Diary, I find my lineage going back to Hector Ard and then "Alistair Mor, Laird of Loup from whom came the MacDonalds of Loup [The MacAllisters of Loup, see Clan Donald history vol. 3p. 184]". Unfortunately, I do no have the 3 volume clan Donald history to see what it says there. I also am still confused about having the above lineage and being told I am Clan Ranald. In the book "The Clan Ranald of Knoydart and Glengarry" by Norman MacDonald he has a chart showing Alasdair Mor, brother of Angus Mor, listed as "progenitor of the MacAlisters of Loup." He also shows a line that goes from Angus Mor to Angus Og to John the Good of Isla, Lord of the Isles and through his first marriage (Euphemia 'Amy' MacRury) to his son Ranald, progenitor of Clanranald and Glengarry. it almost seems as though some of the descendants of Alasdair Mor, because they were living among all of the MacDonald/MacDonells of Knoydart just adopted the same surname.
Ann, you are the closest "relative" I have found in the research of my McDonald ancestors. Would you mind telling me a little about your family? jmcdonald@opusnet.com

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 25 Nov 2010 8:16PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Loup, Macdonald, MacAllister
Hi, In my genealogy I have Alasdair Mor as the progenitor for the Loup families HOWEVER I have recently received evidence that they are actually descended from Alastair Og, nephew of Alasdair Mor and progenitor of the Macdonnells of Leinster. It is argued that there are flaws in the lineage adopted by most from the Clan Donald books published by A & A for the MacAllisters of Loup & descendants of Hector Ard. I have pages of info to review in that regard. I wonder if others have come across the same situation in regards to Clan Iain Ruadh, and the descendants of Hector Ard. Any comments appreciated.

Regards,

Evelyn Goulet, Castle Tioram
Finlaggan Councillor
Clan Donald International,
Host, Glengarry County Genweb

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 26 Nov 2010 5:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: McDonald, MacDonald, McDonnell
Very interesting. I have not heard of this alternate explanation of the Loup ancestry. When you have examined the evidence, I hope you will inform us of your findings.

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 26 Nov 2010 5:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Clan Alasdair, Alistair, Allison, Alison, Loup, MacAllister, Loup, MacDonald
I have about 20 pages of extracted material to review from various sources including the current Lord Lyon. Actually, Clan Donald by the Rev.'s A & A seems to be one of the few older sources that states Alastair Mor rather than his nephew Alastair Og (deposed, also progenitor of the Leinster line in Ireland). One source you can look at is the Alison Allison Family history, a book online, but most of the rest of the sources are earlier than the Clan Donald books, which the Rev's chose to dispute. Clan Donald is a good reference, but not for some families such as Aberchalder, Leek, Greenfield, Keppoch and now Clan Alasdair/Loup. As far as the Rev's were concerned all descendants of Alasdair Og went to Ireland, which is disputed for one by the Alison family that changed their name on arrival in the Scottish lowlands. I will likely display the results on the Glengarry County Genweb, and post a note here as to when it is done.

Regards,

Evelyn Goulet, Castle Tioram
Finlaggan Councillor
Clan Donald International
Host, Glengarry County Genweb

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 26 Nov 2010 5:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Tal, you should view my postings on the Macdonalds of Loup as I have received new info on the ancestry I am working through.

Regards,

Evelyn Goulet, Castle Tioram
Finlaggan Councillor
Clan Donald International
Host, Glengarry County Genweb

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 19 Mar 2012 10:59AM GMT
Classification: Query
Did you ever find more out about Margaret Macdonald the aunt of Father John? I am a descendant of Margaret's brother Angus. Would love to compare notes on this family. I hope to figure out where each of the siblings lived in Glengarry.

Ann

My off site email is aharrington@netspace.net.au

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 9 May 2015 1:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: JMac
Hello, I am researching my husband (and children's) MacDonald line and so interested in the letter referenced. Is there any way you could send it to me? This would be Brian MacDonald who lines up to Elihu Joseph son of Donald son of Angus son of Donald/Catherine, son of the Father John referenced with brother Aeneas. Would very much appreciate it and I know he would be so excited to see it.

Re: MacDonald's of Loup

Posted: 13 May 2015 10:57PM GMT
Classification: Query
Jeanne,

The Donald father of Elihu Joseph would be my 1st Cousin 4 times removed. I can send you a copy of the 1804 letter to my 2nd GGF Roderick if you give me your e-mail address. If Brian is in my line I have info that I can provide.

Tal
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