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Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 26 May 2012 3:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Janet!
When I first posted, I had very little information on the Wilson and Bruce families. I've discovered that Sarah Jane and John had nine children: "Maria Jane", Sarah Ann Forbes, Keziah "Cashiah" Elizabeth; Ida (Adah) Adelaide; Louis Napoleon; Eveline Marion; Emma "Ellis" Alice; Ella Cordelia; and Willett. From birth record and 1871 Census, I assume that they also raised grandson, William.
The Mills connection is through daughter Eveline - she married Charles Austin Mills. Their youngest two sons (Hugh and Willett)founded Mills Bros, which continues to operate in Halifax today. http://www.millsbrothers.com/about.html
I found and have a copy of the story of the shipwreck. It is published in Down to the Sea Again: with Tales told under the old town clock, “Mrs. Wilson’s Silverware” by William C. Borrett, Nova Scotia: Imperial Publishing, 1947 Fortunately, this volume was among the Halifax library's holdings. This book is a collection of stories broadcast on a local radio station. From my research, I would say that "some" of this story is a "bit" exaggerated (LOL) ....but it is a good read. Oh, I can confirm though that John was indeed seriously injured during election campaign. (The Acadian Recorder’s Saturday August 14, 1847 issue, a Halifax, Nova Scotia newspaper, Vol. 35, No. 33, page 3, on microfilm at Nova Scotia Public Archives) From this newspaper article, I also know that he was a mate on the brig Evelina.

I'm hoping to assemble all the information that I've collected for Louise and my aunt over the next few months. I was planning to have it done by now -- but new leads, work,"life" and "not enough time" keeps getting in the way.
In case I am still researching these families when you rediscover your own research files, please let me know.

Gail

PS Ancestry seems to have problems sending reply notifications due to my email address -- its' a Canadian ISP -- so I will try to check in here from time to time.

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 26 May 2012 4:15PM GMT
Classification: Query
Janet, Brad and Michael:


I can give you a few details -- though not really "helpful" ones.


In his Will, Robert C Wilson specially indicates that John Wilson is his "beloved grandson", and he request that John take care of his wife, Ann. (Guysborough County Wills, St. Mary’s District, pp. 161-2, on microfilm at Nova Scotia Public Archives) As an adult, John was baptized Anglican at Liscombe's St Luke's Anglican Church. In this record, John's father is also indicated as "John" (St. Luke’s Anglican Church, baptism records, p. 1 No. 6, 185 )

Different sources for John's children indicate various options for his birthplace and middle name: His birthplace was indicated as England but the specific location there was “not known” in his daughter Emma’s death registration. The 1900 US Census record for his daughter Ella also lists his birthplace as England while his wife was born in “Scotland”; however, in the 1930 US Census, Ella’s father is noted as being born in Scotland and her mother in Canada. Emma’s and Louis’ death registrations indicate that his middle name is Henry while daughter Eveline’s death certification indicates it as Bruce. Louis’ further indicates that John was born in Shelburne. His grave’s headstone indicates that he was a “Native of Melburne”.

I'd opt that Henry was his middle name. As for "Melburne", googling it has offered possibilities "Melburne"s in Yarmouth County, NS, the States and also in England (though, I think, this one might be 'land locked' and therefore I question it as a possibility... John's career was consistently linked to the sea)

Through Ruth (Rumley) Legge's second book "...shreds and nooks of land: A History of Liscombe, Spancish Ship Bay......", I'm **guessing** that Raymond Wilson (1922-1999)and Robert WILSON (b.circa 1923?) are the sons of Alberta J.(nee PYE) by her first husband Robert D WILSON (son of Louis and Matilda (need Meisner) Wilson while Frederick K Wilson (1922 - 1999) is grandson of Lewis throught Lewis' son, John Henry & Mary (need Hartling) Wilson. Both Raymond and Frederick are buried at St Luke's Anglican cemetery, Liscombe, Guysborough Co., NS

My aunt (through marriage) and her sister, Louise, are descended through Louis and Matilda's daughter Sarah Jane "Jennie". I'm sure that they would both be excited to learn what you have discovered.

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 26 May 2012 4:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pye, Barnard, Mills, Wilson
I'm not exactly sure until I talk to my aunt just which of them we are related to, but I remember the name Alberta J.(Pye) being mentioned. My grandmother Gretta(Pye) was a Barnard and the Wilson's are from her side. She had a brother named Samuel Barnard, and the only thing I know about him is that he came to Canada from England as a cabin boy at age 14, and that he may have been a twin or a triplet. Yes, I am a twin so that could be possible. The only thing I remember about the Mills' is that my dad told me that his mother, my grandmother, was related to the Mills' Bros. who had the store in Halifax.

Daniel Bruce, Shelburne, Nova Scotia 1800 -1881 "2 families"

Posted: 26 May 2012 4:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 27 May 2012 8:12PM GMT
Daniel BRUCE, the son of John and Deborah (nee Kelley) BRUCE married twice: 1) Adrah Jane RYER (October 6, 1797, Shelburne, Nova Scotia, CANADA - November 17, 1851, Shelburne, Nova Scotia, CANADA.)... Their children: Frederick Daniel; Sarah Jane; George; Wentworth; Thomas John; William "Cain" Kean? BRUCE; Ann Ellen Muir; and Robert Douglas. Frederick, Wentworth, Thomas and Robert moved to Newburyport, Massachusetts, USA -- worked largely in the ship building trade. ..................Widowed Daniel remarried January 7, 1857 to Margaret PETERSON at Shelburne, Nova Scotia. Margaret died October 2, 1911 at age 84 years. Their family was: Adrah Jane; Elizabeth "McK"; Ida Ann; George Albert; Alice M; William John; and Maud.

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 26 May 2012 4:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
This is what I have on your side:

Emma Alice “Ellis” WILSON (August 14, 1858, Marie Joseph or Liscombe, Guysborough County, Nova Scotia – December 16, 1940, Ecum Secum, Guysborough Co., Nova Scotia, buried at St. Paul's Ecum Secum) (daughter of John WILSON and Sarah Jane BRUCE).......

Born August 14, 1858, Liscombe, Guysborough Co., Nova Scotia per her death registration. (the 1901 Halifax County Census, indicated her birthdate as August 17, 1859. 1901 Census, Halifax, Smith Cove, Part 1, p. 19, family 162. While the 1911, indicates it as August 1857. http://automatedgenealogy.com/uidlinks/Links.jsp?uid=1505255... ...............

Married August 6, 1887 at Ecum Secum West to 62 yr old widower Samuel BARNARD fisherman who Was born “West End London”, England per their Anglican marriage registration; his death certificate however indicates Gloucester, England as his birthplace. He was the son of a farmer, Samuel and wife Mary.

Emma and Samuel’s children were: (http://automatedgenealogy.com/uidlinks/Links.jsp?uid=1505255...)......
1) Manley Alfred BARNARD (May 28, 1882, - April 15, 1950, Sheet Harbour, Halifax County, Nova Scotia)
In the 1901 Census and the 1911, he is noted as Manley A or Manley. Nova Scotia. Manley married June 3, 1913 to Edith O’Neil (daughter of John and Catherine O’Neil). The ceremony occurred at Digby, Digby Co., Nova Scotia. At this time, “Manley Alfred” was a mariner whose residence is indicated as Saint John, New Brunswick. ( Nova Scotia Vital Statistics online, Marriages, Year: 1913 - Book: 3 - Page: 781) He worked as a seaman (oiler) with the merchant marine for thirty five years. He retired from this on November 20, 1945. His sister Greta (Mrs Noble PYE) registered “Alfred Manley”’s death which was due to heart disease coronary thumbrosis and arteioscerosis. He was buried at St . Paul’s cemetery, Ecum Secum Bridge. His wife survived him..........
2) Henry “Harry”Samuel BARNARD ( December 3, 1887 – March 30, 1973, Ecum Secum, Guysborough Co., Nova Scotia. (Rootweb ancestry indicates that he was born in 1888. His headstone notes 1887)
Harry had at least two children who survived childhood. He married twice:
Prudence R. PYE (February 4, 1885, Ecum Secum, NS – June 21, 1924.) at Ecum Secum East by Anglican ceremony on September 3, 1912. Prudence was the daughter of Henry and Phoebe PYE (Nova Scotia vital Statististics online, Marriages, ear: 1912 - Book: 1821 - Page: 152 - Number: 427) . Prudence is buried at St Paul’s Anglican Cemetery, Mitchell Bay.
His second wife was Laura Frances Florence BEZANSON (September 3, 1906, New Chester, Guysborough Co., Nova Scotia - 1985, buried at St. Paul’s Anglican Cemetery, Mitchell Bay ) They married February 6, 1929 at Port Dufferin’s St. James Church Rectory.
They lost at least three infants: :
Duncan James BARNARD (October 11, 1933 – October 12, 1933) He lived for one day. His passing was due to “congential weakness”. He is buried at the Anglican Church cemetery, Mitchell Bay, Guysborough Co., NS. His death was reported by Rev W Lahey, parish priest. (Nova Scotia Vitial Statistics online, Deaths, 1933 Ecum Secum Bridge, Halifax County Book: 88 - Page: 1267)
Mary Francis BARNARD (October 11, 1933 –October 12, 1933) Rev W Lahey also registered her death. She lived nine hours and died to to “congential weakness”. She is buried with her twin at the parish cemetery, Mitchell Bay.
Faye Gwendolyn BARNARD (November 11, 1938 – January 25, 1939) Died at 2 months and 14 days of age. Her death cause indicates only “no Dr. in attendance”. Faye is buried at Mitchell Bay. Her aunt Mrs. Noble PYE of “Ecum Secum West” registered her passing.
Harry had at least three children...........
3) Greta A. BARNARD (born January 5, 1886) The 1911 Census indicates that she was born January 1897.
Married Noble PYE (son of Robert and Elizabeth PYE) on May 3, 1916 at Ecum Secum in an Anglican ceremony. Henry S and Prudence Barnard were witnesses. Noble, his father as well Greta’s were fishermen. Nova Scotia Vital Statistics online, Marriages, Halifax County, Nova Scotia: 1916 - Book: 1822 - Page: 65 - Number: 275
Their headstone notes that Noble 1896 – 1975 and Greta 1897-1985. They are buried at Mitchell Bay 0 St. Paul’s Anglican Cemetery.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&d...
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nshalifa/halifaxb.htm - Halifax Co. cemetery inscriptions.
Manley, Henry and Greta Barnard resided with their parents at the time of the 1901 and 1911
Censes. ............

Samuel Barnard (husband of Emma Wilson) died at age 97 years on January 21, 1914. He is buried at St Paul’s Cemetery, Ecum Secum Bridge. (Nova Scotia Historical Vital Statistics online, 1914 - Book: 9 - Page: 444 - Number: 2663)

Emma died at age “82 yrs 4 months and 2 day” on December 16, 1940 at Ecum Secum Bridge, Halifax County due to chronic arithritis and pneumia. She was buried at St. Paul’s Cemetery, Ecum Secum Bridge, Nova Scotia. Mrs. Nobel A Pye, her daughter, registered her death. Nova Scotia Vital Statistics online, Deaths, Halifax County, Nova Scotia 1940 - Book: 193 - Page: 912)

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 26 May 2012 5:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
How do I view your tree. I haven't use Ancestry much, can you tell? lol.
Janet

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 26 May 2012 11:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Janet
Try searching Sarah in the family trees category and look for "Tudball" that will be mine or if that doesn't work try....http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/12269243/person/-290733130
Not sure the last one will work but it doesn't hurt to try.
Let me know if it works for you.
Brad

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 14 Jan 2013 3:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: sarah jane bruce and john wilson daughter kesiah
my great great great grandmother was kesiah wilson sarah and johns daughter .notes that i have seen on this board helped me with alot more reasearch with my tree tks everyone and any more info would help

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 28 Apr 2015 4:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi,
I believe we might be related. My mother was Betty Jean Dorr. Her parents were Warren Burns Dorr and Evelyn Harriet Jewers and I see her in your family tree.
I have done the Dorr family on Warrens side and hit a brick wall with my Grandmother Evelyn.. UNTIL I came across your tree.

Re: Sarah Jane Bruce & John Wilson

Posted: 28 Apr 2015 10:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
I was beginning to give up hope of getting any further info on this line :) It is nice to meet yet another "cousin" I would guess eh?
Over the last number of years I have moved around so much I've not had time to do too much with my genealogy tree and my paper documents are in storage and my computer files on the hard drive of an old computer. I MUST start setting aside some time to do this again soon as I want my daughter and granddaughters to have as much of their heritage as I can provide them.
I hope the info on my tree was helpful in adding on to yours :)
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