ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
Can anyone tell me what the ethnicity/origin of people was that were in Pictou Co., 1840-1880 when my Bowen family appeared to have lived there? I recall from the Census that there were a # of Scots there. I don't know if my John Bowen/Jane Turner were literate, so can't be certain that they actually wrote the surname was "Bowen" however that is the way it is used for the two known daughters who lived and died in Mass.
What was the state church at this time? Was there one? Any thoughts, clues or links to further resources would be welcomed. Thank you! Marilyn Arnold WDC
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Re: ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
Hi, have you tried connecting to the Pictou County Gen Web?? There is a History of Pictou by Rev George Patterson there which can be read online. He provides a lot of background on Pictou, ethnicity of its settlers, justice, economics over the years as well as some political and historical annecdotes. It is quite a good read for anyone trying to understand the times of early settlement of Nova Scotia.
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I am interested in seeing copies of the following articles about Sunny Brae, in particular, any references to the children of Charles McIntosh and Isobel Ross
[Sunny Brae 09/01/1920 Free Lance] [Sunny Brae & Down the River 23/01/1920 Free Lance]
Ben MacDonald Sun City AZ
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Re: ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
Thank you, jeboute. Appreciate the suggested reference. I'll be sure to look at the site and see this document. I'm sure it will be helpful in helping me understand my "mysterious" Bowens!
Thanks, Marilyn
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Re: ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
With names like Bowen, Turner, and Tucker, both very prominent New England family names, have you considered the possibility that your Bowen ancestors may have come from New England originally? I descend from Richard Bowen, a Welshman, who settled first at Salem, MA, and later moved to Rehoboth in Plymouth Colony in the mid seventeenth century. He left numerous descendants. Another prominent Bowen family, also of welsh origin, is that of Griffith Bowen who settled in Roxbury, Mass Bay Colony in the seventeenth century. He also left many descendants.
Bowen can be a Scottish name, and is also a popular Irish surname. Most often, the surname is of Welsh origin, deriving from an abbereviation of the name "Ap (or son of) Owen."
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I have Charles McIntosh, b. 1746 in Petty, Inverness, Scotland, married 2 Jun 1775 at Petty, Inverness, Scotland to Isobel Ross, b. 1754, Inverness, Scotland, dau. John and Isobel (Fraser) Ross. Two sons listed, Donald McIntosh who married Ann Falconer and David McIntosh, who married Christy Chisholm. Charles and Isobel (Ross) McIntosh were my maternal 5th great-grandparents.
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Hi, I also have McIntosh ancestors but have not been able to find anything on them. My ggggrandmother was a Jennet McIntosh b. 1783 Scotland d. 1862 Mt Thom, Nova Scotia. She married Donald W Smith born 1782 Rannoch, Scotland, d. 1864 Mt Thom, Nova Scotia. I think perhaps they may have been married in Scotland, however, I believe all their children were born in Nova Scotia.
Just wondering whether anyone has heard of them?
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Re: ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
Hi!
Thanks for your suggestions/thoughts. Yes, I've considered that they may originally been from NE and left in 1700s because they supported the British. John, perhaps, was from NY, also ....
I know much about the TUCKERS (Mass from 1630s). Yes, in researching the Tuckers in Berkshire Co., MA, I've come across Bowens. And, it's also a name where my Arnolds were from in Eastford, CT. ONE of the Census records gives Jennie's father's birthplace as NY, but all the rest, including the death of his daughter Annie, list him as being from NS.
All census records give Jane Turner as b. NS. (Although I've never found either John/Jane in the US Census, just their daughter Annie (1880), and daughter Jennie Bowen) Tucker (1880, 1900, 1910, 1920, 1930). It's just such a common name.
My only clue to a place in NS at all is one piece of paper in Henry Tucker's C.War pension records in which there is a letter to my grandmother from New Glasgow in response apparently to a request for the birth record of her mother, Jennie Bowen in 1863. (Other records indicate she could have been born as early as 1853). So between the fact that I don't have a birth year, or an immigration year (can't read in one census; not given in another, I'm kind of stuck in even knowing when they might have been born.
And, without ANY information on either of them in NS, it's just a needle in a haystack. There was a Charles Bowen who lived on the same street as Henry Tucker in Boston (C. Dir) at about the time of their marriage (Stoneham, 20 miles north -- no known cxn to Stoneham for Henry; perh because I think she was only 14, although MC said 23, he 35, but I KNOW he was 39 -- ack 14 and 39???; I do know that she was already 2-3 mo pregnant). Per. 5 John Bowens living in Boston at same time (1878), so I wouldn't be able to ID him, and can't specifically find him in the 1880 Census; nor on any ship records to Boston. How else would they have met if not living on the same street or going to the same church, esp. when she was just 14 ...?
My mother never met her, although she was 11-12 when Jennie died. Apparently she had dementia.
In 1880, Jennie was living in Dorchester w/husband Henry and infant Henry; Annie (sister) was living in Lynn, working in a saloon. They all later (1890s) in Reading, MA, where Annie died in 1899.
Henry & Jennie had 9 children. Only one was really healthy; and Jennie's sister was only 49 when she died, so perhaps John/Jane did not live long either.
One of Henry/Jennie's children d. age 18, Heart disease; another mid 20s, pernicious anemia; another early 30s, dementia (but I think may have been gased in WWI; another jumped or was pushed out of a 9th story VA hospital (ack); another had diabetes and perhaps was not stable (4 husbands, gave up child when first one died); my grandmother had lung removed at 30, rhematoid arthritis and empysema, died of kidney failure; youngest sister b. blind and dy. I am in touch with descendants of the two other lines which had children. No one else is doing research.
So ... they've been a brick wall for years, and I'm just grasping at straws! But, thanks again for your thoughts and suggestions on some possible NEng. Bowens! (All the rest of my ancestors are from New England ...., so why not?!)
Marilyn
PS You might want to repost your earlier query on this subject line under a new subject line with the surnames you are researching, as you might get a better response from those that might be researching your line. Just a thought!
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Re: ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
I wonder if your Jessie Bowen may have been a daughter of James Bowen and Isabel or Isabella Rose of New Glasgow. Isabel/Isabella Rose was a daughter of John Rose and Isabella Calder, Scottish emigrants to Pictou County who arrived in 1818?
Found this which may help:
"Isabella "Bella" Rose 1805 - b: October 06, 1805 in Invegordon, Rosskeen Parish, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland, Spouse James Bowen b: in Little Harbour, Pictou Co. NS, Canada Father: David "Davie" Bowen Mother: Unknown"
And the following obituary seems to connect the Little Harbor Bowens with those in New Glasgow.
"BAILLIE, Reta Grace - 92, 437 Pleasant St., New Glasgow, passed away on Wednesday, December 29, 1999, in Aberdeen Hospital, New Glasgow. Born in Little Harbour, she was a daughter of the late John J. and Effie (Pye) Bowen. She was a resident of New Glasgow for all of her married life and was a member of the Church of the Nazarene, Trenton. In her younger years, she was active in volunteer work with the Red Cross and the Canadian Cancer Society. She was a former member of the Rebekah Lodge and Pythian Sisters. She was a past president of the Pictou County Progressive Conservative Women's Association and a life member of the Provincial Progressive Conservative Association. For a number of years she was active in the St. John Ambulance Brigade and had served as a Girl Guide leader. She served as companion for many seniors throughout Pictou County. She is survived by son, John Angus, New Glasgow; stepdaughter, Margaret (Roy) Cochrane, Halifax; Mabel Woodhouse, Owen Sound, Ont.; Jessie Talbot, Truro; stepson, Kenneth Baillie, Pembrooke, Ont.; brothers, Douglas (Olive) Bowen, New Glasgow; Frank (Isabell) Bowen, Little Harbour; Sylvester (Doreen), Doncaster, England; grandchildren, Debbie (Russell) Dicks, Jim Hirtle, Alan (Stacey) Hirtle, Steven (Rufca) Hirtle, Sharon (John) Chisholm, Steven (Cindy) Talbot, Jim (Trixie) Talbot, Nancy (Glenn) McQuinn, David (Bev) Cochrane, Diane (Wayne) Wooden, Beth (Ric) Bleasdale, Barb McLachey, Bart Baillie, Maureen, Jim, Jack Woodhouse; several nieces and nephews and great-grandchildren. She was predeceased by her husband, Angus; daughter, Reta Hirtle; brothers, Clarence and Clyde; and by sister, Alice (Mrs. Archie Hubley). Her remains will rest in H.W. Angus Funeral Home, New Glasgow, with visitation Sunday from 2-4, 7-9 p.m. Funeral service will be held at 2 p.m. on Monday, in Church of the Nazarene, Trenton, Rev. Doug Herbert officiating. Burial will be in Heatherdale Memorial Gardens. Family flowers only, please. Donations in her memory may be made to the Multiple Sclerosis Society, Atlantic Division, or to the charity of one's choice."
Some food for thought....
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Re: ETHNICITY, Pictou Co., mid 1800s
Also, this James Bowen may be tied to Bowens from Cayuga County, NY that came to the Halifax area after the Revolutionary War. To top this off, the Bowens of Cayuga County apparently came there from Northbridge/Uxbrisge, MA and were Quakers. If so, this line of Bowens likely derives from Richard Bowen of Rehoboth/Swansea, MA (my ancestor) as many of the Quaker or Baptist Bowens of that line migrated to Smithfield, RI and up the Blackstone River to Uxbridge/Northbridge. Check this out for more deatiled information: http://wesleyhardenzone.com/bowen.htm
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