Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
Steve,
Looks like you are right. I double checked the image - and although that zero in 1880 at the top of the page as an odd tail on it that could make it look like a 5, the very next record following their marriage reads 1881. Thanks for straightening that out for me.
I found the Francis Lonergan baptism you referenced. Thanks for that cue also.
Patrick
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
Can you explain to me the source of this information? I have gone looking for it - is it a book, is it now on CD? etc.
Thanks again, I am very grateful,
Patrick Murphy Chicago, IL
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
The Old Kings County Courthouse Museum sold a disc with the cemetery inscriptions in Kings County. Another source to look at is online - People of Kings County http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nskings2/He's grouped families based on several sources - one being the cemeteries. Steve
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
Steve,
Still working on all of these Lonergan issues - making some headway. More and more convinced that John Lonergan (born about 1810-12) was the son of William Lonergan Jr, tailor of Cashel, Tipperary, and Bridget McDermot. Michael Lonergan who married Sophia Floyd, is also a son to them. William Lonergan (b 1830/32, later "changed his name" in Massachusetts to Lunderkin) who married Dorothea Blanchard was the son of William Lonergan (of County Cork) and Mary Lee (her second marriage after she was widowed by Michael Lonerga, shoemaker of Cashel Tipperary).
As I was looking at your post again this line jumped out at me: Henrietta Sophia Lonergan b. 7 May 1850, d. 3 Feb 1937
Can you send me more information about this individual?
Here is why I am suddenly interested in a Henrietta Lonergan: John Lonergan discussed above married Margaret Skerry who was widowed by Dennis Delahunt (another of the disbanded soldiers). Their daughter Elizabeth who married David Sliney, they are my gg-grandparents. They had a son William Oscar Sliney, sometimes listed as Oscar William Sliney who appears in the 1871 Census with them in John Lonergan's household in Guinea, Clements, Annapolis, NS. Or I thought he was their son (his death record in Massachusetts lists them as his parents). However, I found an index listing on familysearch.org (attached) that indicates his parents may have actually been a James Sliney and Henrietta Lonergan. This baptism occurred at Holy Cross/Sainte Croix in Digby on 10 Aug 1870 (which matches well with the 1871 Census and later records for Oscar William Sliney).
I am open to the possibility that there is a transcription error and that James Sliney and Henrietta Lonergan were actually the sponsors. I am also open to the idea that there was a transcription error (although I cannot imagine even a latinized rendering of David coming out to look like Jacobi and Elizabeth in a latinized form does not seem to come out as Henrietta). The only access to this record is to go to archives in Halifax which is not practical for me at the moment. So, in the meantime I am very interested in whatever you can tell me about Henrietta Sophia Lonergan. Aside from you listing her in your post I do not believe I have come across her. if she was even just the sponsor of Oscar William Lonergan's baptism it would represent yet another instance of crossing the streams of the various Lonergan lines.
Patrick
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
I found Henrietta Sophia LONERGAN when searching for the TAYLOR surname. Check Henrietta Sophia TAYLOR in the Nova Scotia Vital Stats: https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/ItemView.aspx?ImageFile=...Looks to me that even though the parents are given as we're talking about the Sophia LONERGAN, daughter of John LONERGAN and Margaret SKERRY since John TAYLOR and Sophia LONERGAN have a daughter Anna - same as the informant. I'll let you figure it out - OK? STev
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
WOW - is this one ever tricky! Holy smokes. Sure looks like Sophia Lonergan who married John Taylor in 1868 in Clementsport where the marriage record indicates she was born in Clements, lived in Clements and was the daughter of J. Lonergan: https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/ItemView.aspx?ImageFile=...I have traced Sophia and John Taylor forward from that marriage and she does indeed end up in Kingston Village. Another interesting factor is that in the 1881 Census in John and Sophia's household her mother is living with them but her name is listed as Mary (Mary Lee Lonergan Lonergan? and not Margaret Skerry Delahunt Lonergan?). Goodness. Something is not adding up. It would be very tempting to try to find one error that solves everything. But it probably won't be that simple. Thanks, Steve. This is a real problem but solving problems like this leads to more accuracy and maybe some unintended but useful surprises along the way. Patrick
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
Hi Patrick,
First, I want to thank you for your great research. It has helped me tremendously as I build out my tree.
I am descended from Henry Taylor (1848-1910) and Eliza Lonergan (1853-1936). They are my great-grandparents. This is my understanding of the relationships (but of course, I could be wrong!):
Henry was the son of William Taylor (1815-1876) and Mary Ann Walker (1816-?). Eliza was the daughter of Mary Lee (1805-?) and her second husband, William Lonergan (I have no dates for him).
Henry Taylor's older brother, John Taylor (1841-?) married Eliza's older sister, Henrietta Sophia Lonergan (1850-1937). I knew that John had married a Sophia Lonergan, but I could not figure out Sophia's relationship to my great-grandmother Eliza until you (or someone else) linked to Henrietta Sophia's death certificate in this thread, with William Lonergan and Mary Lee listed as her parents. Then it clicked -- they were sisters, and their husbands were brothers. Ah, the joys of village life!
My grandfather, Henry's son Francis Clement Taylor, grew up in East Dalhousie and was a lumberjack. He and brother Amos went to Maine where the pay was better, and there he met my grandmother, who had immigrated from Ireland. They eventually made their way to Boston, where I grew up.
I'm very interested in more information about the Dalhousie Settlement, if you have any sources or links to provide.
Again, many thanks. I love doing this research, and can tell that you do as well.
Teresa Hanafin
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Re: "Walker Cemetery" or "Walker Hill Cemetery" in East Dalhousie
Teresa,
Thanks for touching base. I think it was Steve Franey who really figured out Henrietta Sophia Lonergan's heritage. It looks as though for several years as I was carrying "Sophia Lonergan" as a child of John Lonergan and Margaret Skerry I was on the wrong track. He had pointed that out some months ago and before I finished sorting that out I got distracted and moved on to something else. But I think the evidence is pretty compelling - "Sophia Lonergan" who married John Taylor - was really Henrietta Sophia Lonergan, daughter of William Lonergan and Mary Lee. I think her birth/baptism still needs to be found, but that remains possible. The place to find it could be in the baptismal records in either Liverpool, NS (where her elder sister Margaret was baptized in 1839) or at St Joseph's in Caledonia, NS (where her younger sister Agnes was baptizd in 1849).
I am still stuck with a potentially startling item which is the idea that Oscar William Sliney who I believed to have been a son of my gg-grandparents David Sliney and Elizabeth Lonergan, may actually be the child of a James Sliney and a Henrietta Lonergan. This is based on an index record from 10 Aug 1870 at Holy Cross/Sainte Croix in Digby, NS. Oscar was raised by David and Elizabeth as their son but as this index suggests his parents may instead have been James and Henrietta - I may be confronted with the possibility that he was a foster child to them. I don't know who James Sliney is - not other records, and this could all be a coincidence, but I don't have access to the Holy Cross records. The other implication is the possibility of a relationship between my John Lonergan and Mary Lee's second husband William Lonergan, or possibly her first husband Michael Lonergan.
At the moment that's the Lonergan and short-again of it.
Right now I am looking into distinguishing between the family lines of two other disbanded Dalhousie soldiers who shared a last name, Edward Toole and James Toole. Similar problems exist as to which line of Tooles in the mid-1800's and beyond stem from which of these two individuals.
If you ever find any way you think we could be of help to each other don't hesitate to ask.
Regards,
Patrick Murphy Chicago, IL
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