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Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 18 Nov 2012 10:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nicholl, Clarke, Chesley
I am looking for the parents of William S. Nicholl b. ca. 1816 d. 11 November, 1891 Bear River, NS who married Susan Clarke on 13 Dec. 1841 Parish of St. Clements, Annapolis, Nova Scotia. I am a descendant of his son Herbert Wallace Nicholl.

There was a William Nichols who married Susan or Maria Chesley on 21 October, 1815 in Granville Twp, Annapolis, NS – could this be the father? There was also a William Nickles, age 94 b. 1777 In England, living in Brooklyn, Hants., Nova Scotia in 1881 with wife Mary, age 84 b. in NS

William stated that his father was born in England, mother in Nova Scotia per 1891 census.

1861 Census he lived in Digby, NS
Listed in 1871 census in Hillsburgh, NS age 54 with wife, son Herbert age 28 and 7 year old Fanny Johnson.
By 1881 son had moved out. 1881 Census, Hillsburgh, Digby, N.S., District 15 A, p. 51, Household 267
William NICHOLL Male English - 63 - Nova Scotia « » Farmer «» Baptist
Mary E NICHOLL « » Female « » English « » 61 « » Nova Scotia - Church of England
Fanny BROWN » Female African 17 Nova Scotia Servant Baptist
1891 Census, NS, Digby 31, Hillsburgh No. 1, p. 34, Household 173
Nicholl, William M 75 Married (born in N.S., father born in England, mother in N.S.)
Nicholl, Mary E. F 73 Married Wife
Listed in 1891 census age 75. Census listed him as living in Hillsburgh, Digby, Nova Scotia

Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 18 Apr 2013 9:33AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 18 Apr 2013 9:37AM GMT
Surnames: nicholl
Hi there - you are correct in identifying William S Nicholl's parents as William Nicholl and Susan Maria Chesley. They are third great Grandparents of mine through their son James D. I have a portrait drawing of this William, or it may be of his father, whose name I don't know.
Anyway, what i have is in the attached image (Please ignore the naming of his parents as Thomas and Elizabeth - these were just among many names I used to coax something out of the ancestry search engines - with no luck at all.)
Cheers,
David
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Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 18 Apr 2013 4:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nicholl
David - Thank you, that's really helpful. Do you know anything about Thomas Nicholl, William's father?

Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 20 Jul 2013 3:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
I have only been able to trace back to my 2nd Great Grandfather, George Stephen Nicholl, 1824 - 1890. Married to Sophronia Clark of Digby, Nova Scotia.

I was wondering if you had come across anything that would indicate the two (William and George) might be related (brothers, cousins, etc). I am new to this, so my information is limited. Also noticed that both their wives have similar surnames (Clarke, Clark). Maybe they are related as well or it's a coincidence?

Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 20 Jul 2013 3:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nicholl
Thank you so much for posting this document.

I started digging around 2 days ago and was able to trace back to my 2nd Great Grandfather, George Stephen Nicholl, which, I believe, would make us all distant cousins.

I searched the message boards on a whim, and am so glad I did.

I am happy to share my limited information of George's line, if you don't have it already.

Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 21 Jul 2013 10:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 21 Jul 2013 10:20AM GMT
I found what is most likely coincidental information in a Birth record for Chesley Caird Nicholl born in 1898 to William Freeman Nicholl and Emma Frances Newcomb. the birth registration reports that Chesley was born at Weymouth North, Digby Co. NS and her father William was born in Bear River, NS. This record is available at www.novascotiagenealogy.com


Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 29 Sep 2014 5:48PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi All,
My G3 Granddad was George Nicholl, the younger Brother of William Nicholl (1786- 1849). They were born in Sutton Courtney, Berkshire and their parents were the local Vicar Samuel Nicholl and his Wife Lydia, nee Shewell.
Jumping back a few generations the story is as follows. In 1687 at St Dunstan and All Saints, Tower Hamlets, London, Thomas Nicholl, Bachelor, of Barking, Essex married Susanna Harrison, Spinster. Thomas was a Tanner. He made his Will in 1713, at which time Susanna was still alive. Among the children mentioned in the Will are Harrison Nicholl and Samuel Nicholl.

Samuel Nicholl married Ann Jarvis on 21 May 1730 at Banbury in Oxfordshire. Samuel was a Goldsmith and apparently had his own Makers Mark; a heart shape enclosing the initials SN. Among his children were Mary Nicholl and Samuel Nicholl. Mary married Thomas Adby, another Goldsmith who set up a Company with Samuel. Mary and Thomas were married in Poplar on 16 August 1752. Thomas died and Mary married James Duppa on 7 July 1765. Mary had a Son also called James Duppa. Samuel The Elder died in 1749 and was buried at Banbury on 18 November 1749. Ann died in 1771 and was buried at Banbury on 19 July 1771. In her Will she requested that she be “..buried in a Leaden coffin in the same grave as her husband at Banbury in Oxon.”

Samuel Nicholl was born in 1745. He gained a scholarship to Tonbridge School and went on to Balliol College, Oxford. He Matriculated12 July 1765 before gaining a BA in 1769 and an MA in 1772. He became Cleric and started as the Curate at Bix in Oxfordshire in 1770: the Rector was Thomas Bray. He married Lydia Shewell at St Augustine, Watling Street in the City of London on 24 February 1776. Their children included Lydia Eyres Nicholl (b 1782), William Nicholl (b1786), Marianne Nicholl (b 1788), George Nicholl (b 1789) and Thomas Bray Nicholl (b 1791). Samuel became the Vicar at Sutton Courtney, Berkshire in 1785. Samuel died in 1799 and was buried in Bix. In his Will he requested that his Nephew, James Duppa, and Nathaniel Martin and Thomas Roberts be Guardians to his children in the event of his wife’s death. Lydia, his wife, died in 1802 and was buried in St Peter Le Poer, City of London on 10 June 1802. Her daughter Lydia Eyres Nicholl died the following year. William Nicholl was an 18 year old Midshipman on board HMS Ajax at the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805. The Ajax burnt and sank during Admiral Duckworth’s forcing of the Dardanelles in 1807 with the loss of over 200 lives.

In 1816 George Nicholl went to India as a Free Merchant. The Records show the following: George Nicholl, Start Date 19 September, Start Year 1816, Biographical Notes Bond and Covenant, Free Merchant, Bengal, Amount of Security £1000, sureties: Thomas Roberts, Tottenham, Middlesex, Clerk. James Duppa, Oxford Street, Paper Hanging Manufacturer., Authority of Court 26 June 1816.
In 1818 Eliza Layton went to India. The Records show the following: Eliza Layton, Start Date 18 April, Start Year 1818, Biographical Notes Bond, passenger, Bengal, Amount of Security £200, Sureties Joseph Layton, Church Row, Pancras, Gentleman, Math’s Archibald Robinson, Red Lion Street, Gentleman, Authority of Court 6 March 1818.
George Nicholl married Miss Eliza Layton on 19 October 1818 in St John’s Church, Calcutta.

During 1819 what would end up as a pandemic began as an outbreak of Cholera Morbus in Bengal. By the end of the year Eliza must have realised that she was some 3 months pregnant and the couple may have thought it prudent for Eliza to leave India and return to England, hopefully in time for the birth. So on 21st January 1820 Eliza departed Calcutta on board the East Indiaman Prince Blucher, bound for England. The journey was long and arduous. After a stop in South Africa, Prince Blucher departed Cape of Good Hope on 19th April making her way to Ascension Island, where after a brief stop she departed on 6th May.
Back in Bengal the outbreak grew steadily worse and one of its victims may well have been George Nicholl, for on 11th June he died at Fort William. George was buried at Fort William on 12th June. By Fate, or co-incidence, Eliza Nicholl gave birth to George Henry Nicholl on 12th June while the Prince Blucher was still at sea.
On 22nd June Prince Blucher ran aground on the Shivering Sands in the Thames Estuary. Smacks from Whitstable in Kent took off some of the passengers and landed them safely in Whitstable. Whether or not Eliza risked the transfer, or waited until the ship was re-floated, is unclear, but there does not seem to have been much damage to the vessel as later in the year she started on her return trip to India.

Eliza had George Henry Nicholl baptised on December 31st 1820, at the New Road Tonbridge Independent Church, St Pancras. George’s parents are shown as George and Eliza Nicholl and the address as 36 Pancras Place, London. Pancras Place would seem to be a stone’s throw from Church Row, the address given for Joseph Layton in 1818. Whether or not by then Eliza knew that she was a widow is unknown.
Hope this helps.
Peter
PS I have a website with a bit more history at http://petenicholl.me.uk/index.html

Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 1 Oct 2014 5:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi again
A bit more info. and a couple of questions.
Does the D in James D Nicholl stand for Duppa? Duppa was William's Aunt Mary Nicholl's married name on her second marriage.
William's Sister, Marianne married Samuel (junior) Allnutt (of Allnutts fruit Lozenges fame). I notice that Allnutt appears as middle name in several cases.
Do the Ajax documents say how, when and where William was discharged?
The potted history says that William sailed from Land's End in England. That raises a query as Land's End has/had no port, however, the Allnutts lived in Landport, which is part of Portsmouth, Hampshire.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Peter

Re: Nicholl family Bear River

Posted: 3 Oct 2014 5:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Me again,
Having had a closer look at the drawing, it looks as though his neck wear are preaching bands, so it might well be that it is the Rev. Samuel Nicholl, William's father.
Peter
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