Re: Thorns of New Harbour
Sir, seeking info on William Thorne b. Feb 1874 New Harbour and wife Jessica. 1921 Census list Wm Thorne (widower)age 47 and children Elizabeth 18, Caroline 12, Herbert 10, Alfred 7.
Looking for parents and siblings of William
Thanks.
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
I have traced my ancestry back to John and Mary Thornton of New Harbour, Newfoundland. I and trying to go back further. Do you know who their parents were?
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
Hi Betty,
My gg-grandfather was John Thorne (b.+/- 1840 possibly in New Melbourne). He married Ellen Goulding (as a widower) and lived and died in Westlyville.....Would you have any way of connecting John to the Thorne's in these posts?
Thanks,
Jude
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
I believe these are my great grandparents, their daughter Carolyn (aka Caroline ) is my grandmother.
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
I believe they are my great grandparents! Their daughter Caroline (aka Carolyn) is my maternal grandmother.
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
Hello, to the respondent looking for John Thorne that married Ellen Gauline.
John Thorne was born about 1846 (said to be age 26 at time of marriage) and first married Caroline Winsor in 1872 in Bonne Bay; the record states he was a widower when he and Ellen married Dec 12, 1888 in Wesleyville.
The information I have from his first marriage states that he was the son of Richard Thorne of New Harbour.
Near as I can tell, there are 2 Richard Thorne's of the period:
1. my ggg grandfather Richard Thorne b. 1808, died. 1883 in Thornlea (I believe he is the son of William and Elizabeth Thorne) and his children are well-documented, 2. Richard Thorne b. 1801 to Richard and Ann Thorne, who married Grace; I believe her last name is Day. They had several other children that I have tracked down that include documented children William Francis b. 1849, Elizabeth b. 1836, and I believe, another Richard b. 1848 - he is undocumented. There are likely others, their children are not well documented at all.
So, I expect he would be the son of Richard 1801, although I do not have definitive proof.
John Thorne and Caroline had one child I could find - Sarah in 1873. With Ellen, he had 3 children that I could find -- Caroline 1890, William 1892 and Emily Jane 1895.
Hope this is helpful to you!
Cheers, Carol
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
Hello again, to the person asking about William Thorne of New Harbour, a widower in the 1921 census in New Harbour, b. about 1874.
I am pretty sure this is William John Thorne, son of Jonathan Thorne (1844-1924) and his wife Sarah Pretty (1852-?). Jonathan is confirmed as the son of William Thorne in the 1889 Voters Lists; this would be William Thorne b. about 1824, son of the William Thorne b. 1802 (also confirmed in the 1889 VL) and his wife Elizabeth Hefford. William b. 1802 is widely believed to be the son of William b. 1775 and his wife Ann Burrage, although this is not documented. William b. 1775 is the documented son of that original John Thornton/Thorne in New Harbour.
By the 1935 Census, William had died (although I have not found the death record), but in the meantime it seems he had married a widow, Mary Ann Drover (nee unknown) -- in the 1921 census, she was widowed and living in Bay Bulls Arm. All I know about her is that she was born in 1884 in Green's Harbour. In the 1935 census she was widowed again, but as Mary Ann Thorne, and William's youngest son Alfred was living with her.
Hope this is helpful!
Cheers, Carol
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Re: Thorns of New Harbour
To Worldwide search, the post regarding Sarah Thorne that married Abraham Manuel...
She died of consumption Dec 12, 1896, and her death record stated she was b. in Lance Cove -- so, about 1863.
While her parents are not documented, I believe she would be the child of William Thorne 1834-1932 and his wife Agnes Driscoll 1837-?, as he seems to be the only Thorne having children in the area during the period. William was born in Lower Island Cove, Conception Bay and was the documented son of John Thorne 1804-1875 and his wife Ann Willer (Wheeler?) 1812-1892. This John Thornes origins are not known.
It is not believed that the Lower Island Cove Thornes are genetically connected to the Trinity Bay Thornes, but perhaps one day we will find evidence that they were.
Cheers. Carol
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