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Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Alan (View posts)
Posted: 4 Aug 2003 3:04PM GMT
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Not to my knowledge.

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Gloria Nagy (View posts)
Posted: 6 Mar 2006 3:06AM GMT
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Surnames: Moodie
Heather,There is a book from Carman which is called "THE HISTORY OF THE R.M.OF DUFFERIN IN MANITOBA" 1880 - 1980 and it has the story of the Moodie family in it.It is your family.Let me know and I will type it to you.It has a marriage certificate for Irene and Frank Williams who married in 1895 in Carman.Frank Jr.was the first mayor in Carman.There is much more.

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Gloria Nagy (View posts)
Posted: 6 Mar 2006 3:18AM GMT
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Surnames: Moodie
Alfred Moodie and his wife had many children:
1) Wellington Peel 1867 - 1950
2) Maggie 1868 died following year
3) Alfred Jr. 1868 - 1909
4) Robert Hadda 1872 - 1939
5) Irene 1874 - 1926
6) George Samuel 1876 - 1965
7) James 1881 - 1964
8) John 1881 - 1973
9)Harriet Ellen 1883 -
10)Alice 1887 -1972
11) Sarah 1887 - 1972
12) William Thomas 1889 - 1955
13) Mary 1890 - 1929

Do you have all this info?

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Posted: 6 Mar 2006 3:58AM GMT
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Gloria

I think I have a photocopy from page 656 of that book. Allan McCullough sent it to me. The photocopy is from the Rural Municipality of Dufferin 1880-1980. Is this the same book that you are refering to. If there is any other information I would be very interested in it. Harriet Ellen was my Gr. Grandmother, however every record I have of her in BC names her as Ellen Harriet

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Gloria Nagy (View posts)
Posted: 6 Mar 2006 4:23AM GMT
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Surnames: Moodie/Smith
Heather, Your Grandmother was married To Arthur Lewis Smith September 9/1908 and her name on the marriage document is Nellie which is also the same as Ellen.It is on the Manitoba Vital Statistics.

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Posted: 25 Mar 2010 2:37AM GMT
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Sarah (Sady) was my Great Granny. Here's a story that Great Uncle Tom told me years ago:

The story as told to Tom by Jennie is that Grandpa (Alfred) Moodie committed suicide (by shooting himself)and that Grandma Moodie died in 1932 in the mental home in Brandon, where she had been moved to from Selkirk. And that the death of her husband had just been too much for her. As Tom said, "It isn't good news, but it is time it was told". We still didn't know anything other than this, but over the summer last year, Tom was able to contact the Selkirk Mental home and find out that she had been admitted on March 30, 1896, and then many years later transferred to the Brandon institution where she died on May 17, 1932. She was admitted by her oldest son, Wellington, and by her daughter Irene (Williams). On the admission record, Wellington was listed as her spouse and not her son. Tom went to Brandon where he located her grave in the cemetery for the mental home patients; and he had a new plaque put on her grave marker. We all visited it last spring. How I wish that we had all known about it years sooner. It must have been terrible to have spent so much of her life confined in this manner. She would have been only 46 years of age when she was confined, and 82 years of age when she died. Tom was told by the Selkirk institution that apparently patients being treated for mental illness could not be easily released to their family. In fact the rule was, that if the family took them out, they could not be re-admitted if the need arose again. Both Tom and I tried to get her medical record but have not been able to do so yet. The lady at Selkirk told Tom that so many people are starting to ask for the medical records for their family members, that there is negotiations in progress to pass a law that would require this information be released to direct descendants requesting same.

Today, had this happened, Grandma Moodie would likely have been treated for depression; recovered; and been released. But then the next thing would have been...where would she go? Irene was raising the twins. The neighbors were raising the younger ones. And the older ones would have been on their own. Her husband was gone. Her family was no longer together as a family.

Now, the next problem. We actually found two dates of death for Alfred, March 10, 1896 and March 10, 1898. If Alfred had died in 1898 as we are listing his death at present, she would have been in the institution before his death, and this doesn't seem reasonable. If Alfred died on March 10, in 1896, this would have been only 20 days before she was institutionalized, and this seems pretty extreme. And I can understand her being completely devastated by his death, but what could she have done to warrant such a quick committal. It must have been pretty serious, because from everything I can find out, Wellington was a pretty reasonable man, and Irene was put in a position of raising her own son, as well as her sisters, and it seems unlikely they would have committed their mother if it had not been absolutely necessary.

The R M of Dufferin had a flood some years ago and lost their records for that period. The town of Carman doesn't have the record. The province of Manitoba says it can find no record of his death.


The following information is taken from local history book: The History of the R.M. of Dufferin in Manitoba 1880 - 1980

These notes were submitted by Jennie Paterson: Alfred Moodie with his wife and children came to Manitoba from Drayton, Wellington County, Ontario. The children born in Ontario were Wellington, Maggie, Alfred Jr., Robert, Irene and George. Alfred Moodie took up a homestead on NW 6-7-W, filing on it on July 3, 1879 and proving it on November 25, 1892. Six more children were born in Manitoba, namely: James, John, Harriet, Alice and Sarah, twins; William Thomas and Mary.

Alfred was a horse collar maker by trade. He also served on the board of the Forest School District.

Norma



Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 12:53AM GMT
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Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 1:10AM GMT
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Was Alfred's wife named Grace Moodie (nee Smith). Thanks for posting the info. I had some of the info, but this shed a whole new light on things

She was not the only Moodie to suffer from depression. Their daughter Ellen Harriet Smith spent time in the Provincial Mental Hospital in Essondale BC. It is now known as Riverview Hospital and is located near Coquitlam. I beleive she was in and out of the hospital and may have lived the last seven years of her life there. She is buried in Woodlands School Cemetery Block 28 Plot 33. I have always meant to go to the gave site, but have not yet had a chance. I have attempted to retrive her medical file, but have hit a brick wall.

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 1:31AM GMT
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Thanks so much for the info. I haven't dug around in my genealogy in years, so to see a bunch of new info was very exciting.

Re: Moodie family of Carman Manitoba

Posted: 26 Mar 2010 1:35AM GMT
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I've been wondering if depression in the family is genetic, since there so many with mental health issues to this day. I appreciate your notes regarding Ellen. It's beginning to shed light on several things I've wondered about.
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