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Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 7 May 2014 9:33PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Newman, Nieman, Neumann, Henkel, Henckel, Kitzmann, Reich, Werner
Hello! I am desperately looking for more information on this side of my family. I have been researching the Henkel line for quite awhile and have hit a road block and have been unable to find any further information.
Here is what I have so far starting with my great-grandmother

Maria Henkel(Henckel?) b. 1888 Volhynia, Russia
Married:
Joseph Metner b. Unknown Volynia, Russia d. 1915 Manitoba, Canada
They had 6 children
Rudolph, Carl, Reinholt, Olga, Herbert, Albert

Married (2)
Daniel Andreyev Neuman (Neumann?,Nieman? Newman?) b. 1875 Russia d. 1928 Manitoba
They had 5 children
Clara, Edward, Redena, Emma, Wilbert (Bill)

This is what I know of Maria's Parentage
Father: Christof (Christoph) Henkel (Henckel?) B. 1863 Poland/Russia? D. 1946 Germany?
Mother: Katherine (Katarina?, Justina?) Werner B. Date Unknown, Poland? D. Unknown Germany?

Her Father (Christof) Had 3? Siblings (That we know of and can confirm) who all Immigrated to Canada in the early 1900's ( 1905-1915 )
Ludwig Henkel B. 1873 D. 1952 Manitoba, Canada
John Henkel B. 1878 D. 1967 Manitoba, Canada
Sophia Ruchotzki (nee Henkel) B. 1885 D. 1970 Manitoba, Canada

We believe there are more siblings we are unaware of and need help figuring out who/whom they are. We also need to know the possible parentage of Christof and Katherine, as well if Katherine had any siblings. From what we believe Christof remained in Russia. From an excerpt of Taming A Wilderness we do know Sophia Had a Nephew Bill Werner who came to Canada with her Husband Alex(Alec?)

Maria also had many siblings,
Emma Henkel B. Unknown D. Unknown Possibly In Brazil May have married a Stauch (sp?)
Nathalie Reich? B. Unknown D. Unknown Alberta? Was listed as a Mrs. Julius Reich in Maria's Obituary.
Sophie B. Unknown D. Unknown Possibly In Argentina and May Have married an Emil Gering?
Johann Henkel B. 1894 Volyhnia, Russia D. 1973 Germany Married Katharina Nersheimer

Maria's 2nd Husband and his family are also stumping me at present,

I have a copy of Daniels passport from 1907 Issued By Korytnitsk Volost Appears to be written in Ukrainian.
This passport states that he was married, at the time of issue. When he married my great grandmother he is listed as a widower on the marriage certificate. I have no idea who this previous wife is, or if they had any children.
Also on the marriage license it states that he is from Vladimir, Volynia, Russia ( which is now owned by Ukraine, at the time was under Russian Rule ), and that he was a Lutheran.
I have also found the name of his parents from the marriage license.
Andreas Neumann
Elisabeth Kitzmann

Any information anyone could give me would be incredibly helpful in tracking down more information on these two families.

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 9 May 2014 6:39PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Kimberley There is a write up in the Steinbach Carillon news about Julia Henkel wife of John Henkel celebrating her 102 birthday, it was published in 1993 do you have this if not I can scan and send. It mentions her husband John died in 1967 which matches your info. Shirley K

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 9 May 2014 7:01PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Kimberley I have found a number of obituaries and you can let me know if you already have them
Sophia Ruchotski Winnipeg Free Press Apr 21 1970
Alesander Ruchotski Winnipeg Free Press Dec 31 1963
Eleanor Stewart nee Henkel Mar 31 2012 you can get this one off passages if you want.
Let me know I can scan and send. Shirley K I have a subscrition to newspaperarchives so if you need anyone searched let me know.

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 9 May 2014 7:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
There is also two write ups in the winnipeg free press about Rudolf Metner killing his step father Dan Numan I can send if you don't have them. Shirley K

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 9 May 2014 8:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Did you know about the site with all the photos attached to Julius Reich and Nathalie Henkel
http://www.flickr.com/photos/myfamilytreephotos/7659756268/

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 10 May 2014 12:55AM GMT
Classification: Query
No I didn't and actually Ironically enough it is run by a distant relative of mine :) Thank you!

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 22 Sep 2014 9:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. I was wondering if you could send me a copy of the write ups on Dan Neuman's death? This is the second tragedy that I'm aware of in the "Henkel" family tree - there was also a murder / suicide of Emily Henkel (John and Julie Ruchotski's daughter) in Port Alberni, BC.

I am a great grand daughter of John and Julie - my grandmother was Eleanor Stewart. I do have a few pictures of John and Julie if you would like them.

Thanks!

Laurelle

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 29 Sep 2014 5:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Laurelle,

I am a Great-Grand Daughter of Maria Neuman nee Henkel - Wife of Daniel! Pleasure to meet you!

I have many many newspaper records of Daniels death in Rudy Mettner's Trial Coverage! As well I have many other copies of records I have been able to find through SGGEE :) If you would like, could you send me a personal message and I will give you my contact information, and get yours. I may be able to photo-copy some of these files and mail to you :)

I would also love to pick your brain on John & Julia's Relatives, as very little is known of that particular side of the family :) Maria did not speak much about her family, and information you could provide to me in pictures, records, family stories that have been passed down would be wonderful information to have!

So nice to meet another relative!!

Re: Neuman/Nieman - Henkel Family - Please Help?

Posted: 30 Sep 2014 3:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
I would love if you could send me copies of whatever you have on the Henkel Family and descendants. I cannot contact anyone as of yet, will be signing up for a membership over the Winter when I am less busy with my husbands company stuff. So if you could contact me that would be wonderful and we can pass along what we know about the family.
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