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POPE of Pincher Creek

Posted: 23 Feb 2003 5:26PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 1 Apr 2003 5:29PM GMT
Surnames: Pope, Lynch, Gamache, Gervais, Clemens, Hobb
Looking for info about Thomas Fredrick Pope, who was a member of the 1874 March West. He and his family ultimately settled in the Mountain Mill area near Pincher Creek. I am wondering if there is a write-up in any Pincher Creek local history books?

This Fred was a cousin of Senator Rufus Henry Pope, who with his son Desmond Ives Pope, was instrumental in the development of the Pope Lease Ranch.

There is supposed to be a write-up of Fred's son Fred Wilfred Pope in the book, Recollections of the Homestead Trails, of Mountain View county. Does anyone have a copy to do a
lookup?

Thank you. Rue

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Posted: 19 May 2003 7:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Mar 2005 9:36PM GMT
Rue, I have found a write up regarding Thomas Frederick Pope in the book "History of the Pioneers of Pincher Creek and District." It is quite an extensive write up, consisting of two pages and a photo with him standing beside a horse. If you would like this info, email me directly and I'll get it to you. My email is: wimado@aol.com

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Cathy (View posts)
Posted: 8 Sep 2003 12:02AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pope
Dear Rue,
My great-great-great grandfather was Thomas Fredrick Pope of Pincher Creek. His wife was Philomene Salome Herbert. They were not able to be married legally due to the fact that she could not get a divorce from her first husband. I found some infromation that his parents were Rufas and Hannah. They had four children: Mary Ann, Eliza, Sarah, and Thomas. I was recently up to Pincher Creek and found his tomb stone. I was sent some information on the family that was prepared from Delores and Jim Carder. Please let me know what you know.
Thanks,
funkhous@sisna.com

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Cathy (View posts)
Posted: 8 Sep 2003 12:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear BMARKS,
My great-great-great grandfather is Thomas Fredrick Pope. Is there any way I can also get this information that you sent Rue. I will try to e-mail directly, but sometimes I have a hard time using aol addresses.
Thank you,
Cathy
funkhous@sisna.com

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Posted: 8 Sep 2003 3:40AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 17 Mar 2005 9:36PM GMT
Kathy,

I'll be glad to mail you photocopies of the info on T. F. Pope (two pages with a photograph of a Fred Pope with a horse.) If you'd like me to type the info and send it in an email, let me know and I'll do that instead if you'd rather. I'll try to email you directly for your address.

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Cathy (View posts)
Posted: 14 Sep 2003 11:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Bmark,
I would be happy with whatever is the easiest for you. I will try and e-mail you directly with my address. If I can not reach you I will post it on this site.
Thank you,
Cathy

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Rue (View posts)
Posted: 21 Sep 2003 10:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pope, Hebert
Descendants of John Pope
1 John Pope 1763 - 1853 b: 1763 in Watertown, Middlesex, MA d: May 7, 1853 in Sherbrooke, Quebec
. +Frances Willard 1762 - 1843 b: September 9, 1762 d: 1843
..... 2 John Pope 1786 - 1856 b: 1786 d: June 28, 1856
........ +Sophia Laberee 1791 - 1870 b: 1791 d: August 14, 1870
............ 3 Sophia Pope 1813 - 1876 b: 1813 d: 1876
............ 3 Rufus Pope 1815 - 1874 b: 1815 d: 1874
............... +Hannah Garvin 1814 - 1894 b: 1814 m: Abt 1835 d: 1894
................... 4 Thomas Fredrick Pope 1846 - 1931 b: November 17, 1846 in Cookshire, Compton, Quebec d: June 2, 1931
...................... +Philomene Salome Hebert 1861 - 1915 b: 1861 m: in Macleod, Alberta d: March 25, 1915
.......................... 5 Louisa Pope 1884 - 1966 b: May 12, 1884 in also may 2 Medicine Hat d: January 14, 1966
.............................. +William F. Lynch b: in USA m: 1906
.......................... 5 Elizabeth Ann Pope 1885 - 1972 b: May 12, 1885 d: August 3, 1972
.............................. +Edward James Gamache 1865 - 1950 b: March 24, 1865 in Algoma, ON m: July 8, 1901 in Pincher Creek, Alberta d: 1950
.................................. 6 Mary Gamache 1901 - b: June 22, 1901 in AB
..................................... +Edward James Buchanan - 1956 m: June 22, 1920 d: July 31, 1956
.................................. 6 Augustine "Gus" Gamache 1903 - b: December 7, 1903 in Mountain Mill, AB
.................................. 6 Madeline Gamache
.................................. 6 Eleanor Gamache 1907 - 1979 b: 1907 d: 1979
.................................. 6 Wilfred G. Gamache 1912 - 1980 b: 1912 d: 1980
..................................... +Edythe
......................................... 7 Dorothy Gamache b: in Turner Valley, AB
............................................ +Allen Robinson, Jr. m: 1965
................................................ 8 Suzanne Robinson
................................................ 8 Kenneth Robinson
................................................ 8 Jason Robinson
.................................. 6 Fredrick Gamache
.................................. 6 Jean "John" Joseph Mayotte Gamache 1914 - 1983 b: May 28, 1914 d: 1983
.................................. 6 Lillian Gamache
.................................. 6 Ida Gamache
.................................. 6 Royal Arthur Gamache 1923 - 1979 b: May 10, 1923 d: 1979 in Oregon
.................................. 6 Kenneth Gamache 1929 - b: 1929
..................................... +Jessie Sinclair 1934 - b: 1934
......................................... 7 Elizabeth Gamache
......................................... 7 Karen Gamache
............................................ +___ Taylor
......................................... 7 Charlotte Gamache
.................................. 6 Edward Gamache 1919 - 1919 b: 1919 d: 1919
.......................... 5 John Frederick Pope Abt 1887 - 1896 b: Abt 1887 in Medicine Hat? d: 1896
.......................... 5 Lucy Pope Abt 1888 - 1968 b: Abt 1888 in Lethbridge d: 1968
.......................... 5 Mary Ann Malvina Pope Abt 1890 - 1967 b: Abt 1890 in Lethbridge, AB d: July 12, 1967
.............................. +Alexis Gervais 1880 - b: October 1880
.......................... 5 Agnes Emily Pope 1892 - 1944 b: January 1, 1892 in Lethbridge; also b 1891 d: June 13, 1944
.............................. +Robert Earl Stillman - 1969 m: 1911 in Pincher Creek, AB d: April 7, 1969
.......................... 5 Nellie Pope Abt 1895 - 1969 b: Abt 1895 d: November 8, 1969 in Spokane
.............................. +Alfred Luvern Clemens 1862 - 1962 b: April 6, 1862 in Minneapolis, MN m: January 31, 1911 d: February 2, 1962 in Spokane, WA
.................................. 6 George Alfred Clemens 1913 - 1914 b: September 22, 1913 in Graham, AB d: March 1914
.................................. 6 William Thomas Clemens 1916 - 1957 b: April 30, 1916 in Pincher Creek, Alberta d: November 22, 1957 in Spokane, WA
..................................... +___ Patterson
......................................... 7 Ted William Clemens 1939 - 1962 b: June 26, 1939 in Spokane, WA d: September 5, 1962 in Cedar City, UT
............................................ +Carole Ann Knoles
................................................ 8 Cathy Lynn Clemens
................................................... +Richard James Funkhouser
................................................ 8 Shelly Rae Clemens
................................................... +Gerald Matthew George
.................................. 6 Corbet Ogden Clemens 1920 - 1965 b: March 23, 1920 in Stavely, AB d: June 24, 1965
.................................. 6 Wilfred Clemens 1918 - 1995 b: 1918 d: 1995 in Pincher Creek, AB; Fairview Cemetery
..................................... +Eileen 1922 - b: 1922
......................................... 7 Wilfred F. Clemens 1941 - 1951 b: 1941 d: July 20, 1951 in Pincher Creek, AB; Fairview Cemetery
.......................... 5 Victoria Prudence Pope 1896 - 1929 b: 1896 in Lethbridge d: 1929
.......................... 5 Wilfred Cornelius Pope Abt 1900 - b: Abt 1900
.......................... 5 Frank Wilfred Pope 1900 - 1977 b: December 23, 1900 d: May 28, 1977 in Sundre & District Cemetery
.............................. +Margery Alberta Hobb 1909 - 1980 b: 1909 m: July 26, 1938 in Calgary d: 1980 in Sundre & District Cemetery
.................................. 6 Dorothy Nell Pope
.................................. 6 LaVerne William Pope 1936 - 1989 b: 1936 d: 1989 in Sundre & District Cemetery
.......................... 5 William Pope 1905 - 1924 b: September 10, 1905 d: 1924
................... 4 Mary Ann Pope
...................... +Francis Keenan
................... 4 Eliza Maria Pope
...................... +Alden Learned
.......................... 5 Luvia Learned
.............................. +William R. Moore
.................................. 6 William R. Moore
.......................... 5 George H Learned
................... 4 Sarah Sophia Pope
............ 3 Eliza Pope 1817 - 1865 b: 1817 d: 1865
............ 3 John Henry Pope 1819 - 1889 b: 1819 d: April 1, 1889
............... +Persis Maria Bailey
................... 4 Lizzie Pope
...................... +W. B. Ives
................... 4 Rufus Henry Pope
...................... +Lucy M. Noble
.......................... 5 Desmond Ives Pope 1883 - b: February 4, 1883
.............................. +Olive Campbell m: August 8, 1877 in Lennoxville, QC
.................................. 6 Rufus C. Pope 1915 - 1940 b: 1915 d: 1940
............ 3 Albert Pope 1824 - 1876 b: 1824 d: 1876
............ 3 Craig Pope 1829 - 1886 b: 1829 d: 1886
..... 2 David Pope
..... 2 Nancy Pope
..... 2 Fanny Pope
..... 2 William Pope
..... 2 Elijah Pope
..... 2 Miranda Pope
..... 2 Lemuel Pope

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Posted: 23 Sep 2003 4:01AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 26 Jan 2006 8:32PM GMT
Surnames: POPE
I thought someone may be interested to know that the local history book "Memories - Yours and Mine", pub. in 1972 by the Hesketh Pope Lease Historical Society, SBN 0-919212-15-8, contains stories about Senator Rufus Pope and the Pope Ranch.

Also, the stone chimney from the Pope Ranch (called West View Ranch - the old ranchhouse burned down) still stands on the former ranch site, along the Kneehill Creek just a few miles east of Carbon, Alberta. It can be seen from a local road that parallels the creek.

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Posted: 11 May 2004 10:38PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Cathy:

My name is Karen Gamache and I am the great granddaughter for Fred Pope. I live in Pincher Creek, Alberta. My Father is Fred Popes grandson and we still live in the original area of Beaver Mines where he settled after serving with the NWMP. I have the saddle, the horse has on in the picture from the local histrory book, in my western store as a display. Feel free to contact me at anytime if I can be of any service. Your family tree is close to correct but has a few mistakes. I will send you some of the corrections in the near future.

Karen Gamache Taylor

Re: POPE of Pincher Creek

Cathy Funkhouser (View posts)
Posted: 15 May 2004 1:46AM GMT
Classification: Query
Dear Karen,
I would love to get the information on Thomas Fredrick Pope. My husband and I went up to Pincher Creek last year and saw his grave and got some other information. That is awesome about the saddle. I have seen the picture. Do you have my address? I would like to know more. My line comes out of my great-grandmother, Nellie Pope.
Thank you,
Cathy
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