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Alberta Marriage Cert.-John Storm Piper/Jane Fraser 1906 -1910

Alberta Marriage Cert.-John Storm Piper/Jane Fraser 1906 -1910

Posted: 28 May 2015 4:20PM GMT
Classification: Marriage
Surnames: Fraser Piper
This marriage record is not online as far as I have found.
****The record is needed to confirm Janes parents names.

Jane Fraser,b.1863 Lanark Scotland
arrived in Canada 1905
In 1906 she was living in Manitoba with her
2 sisters.

John Storm Piper b. 1869 Bedfordshire Eng. arrived in Canada 1887
1891 he was in Alberta.
In 1901 he was in Alberta-occupation Police--
Cannot find him between 1902 and 1910

****John and Jane had their first child, John Fraser Piper, in 1910 in Alberta as seen in 1911 census.

The family was still in Alberta up to 1921.

I need some direction /help please.
With thanks
Pat
aka
Winston's mother.

Re: Alberta Marriage Cert.-John Storm PIPER /Jane FRASER 1906 -1910

Posted: 28 May 2015 6:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 May 2015 6:30PM GMT
Surnames: FRASER , PIPER
Hi, Unlike some Provinces - Alberta does not have any Vital Events - birth, marriage, death - online not even an index
The following may be helpful they may offer information re parents
https://www.servicealberta.ca/659.cfm
To Obtain the Registration of Marriage [ this has all of the personal information including names of both sets of parents - names of witnesses etc
one needs to order the Registration of marriage from the Govt of Alberta - Vital Statistics Registry office - The cost - is aprox $40.

in 1906 Jane FRASER b 1863 / 1873 Scotland - was living in ? Manitoba with 2 sisters
What were the names of the sisters this may lead to some information.

1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Alberta / MacLeod / 30 MacLeod / page 34
5 374 Piper John M Head M Dec 1868 42 NWRCMP - may be records.
6 374 Piper Jane F Wife M Aug 1873 37
7 374 Piper John M Son S Apr 1910 1
8 374 Fraser Susan F Sister-in-law S May 1884 27
Note: There is a Fraser family line 36 -40 page 33.
there are many persons listed at location 374

Son Born Fort McLeod Alberta Alruk 19 1910
John Fraser Piper Age:75 Event: Death
Date:1985 8 7 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Place University Endowment UBC Health Sciences Centre Hospital
Reg. Number:1985-09-013619
Microfilm #:B16574 (GSU # 1358014)
Full Registration of Death - has been digitalized by Royal BC Museum & Archive in Victoria BC - Can be Viewed Online
http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/Adva...

Mountain View Cemetery - 39th & Fraser Street - Vancouver BC
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/NONMARKETOPERATIONS/MOUN...
PIPER, John Fraser Aug-14-1985 HORNE2/*/14/*/0385-2

Find a Grave - online - shows a burial for John Fraser PIPER
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi


Re: Alberta Marriage Cert.-John Storm PIPER /Jane FRASER 1906 -1910

Posted: 29 May 2015 2:17AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Piper Fraser
tHello Stella

Thank you for responding to my request--I very much appreciate it.

your suggestion re Jane's sisters was the key-- I do not know why I hadn't thought about checking them--
Jane's sister Elizabeth was born in Ontario-- I noted that in the 1906 census.
Did a search on ancestry and VOILA!! ---- there she was with the correct birth year and her parents names! John Fraser and Jane Mcdonald.. so--one more question answered and the bonus of a birth record!

Jane and Elizabeth's father was a stonemason and he came to Canada for work. I just found his passenger record May 14, 1875-- there were many stonemasons on that manifest so I am
thinking perhaps they all came to work on the Parliament Building.That would be the reason Elizabeth was born in Canada.

I will have to ask my cousin "John Piper" if he wants to spend money for the marriage cert. of Jane Fraser and John Storm Piper,These are his grandparents.
.Alberta sure is secure isn't it?

With knowing her parents now all we can do is guess what year they married.

I did check the Scottish census as well and found the family 1881 and 1891 as well as the 3 sisters in 1901.- so I am feeling these are the correct parents.The information all seems to tie together.

I have John S Piper's death certificate-- The informant was his son Percy Piper-- in this register he gives a different --name for John's wife-- so-- must ask the family if John was married twice.

the reason there were so many people at the same place in the 1911 census is that census was taken at the NWRCMP Barracks etc.John was a member of the NWRCMP. Most of those people listed were prisoners.

Found so much today all because of your suggestions--

I am grateful----

I think a glass of wine is in order--LOL


Thank you so much for all the help Stella
Pat

Re: Alberta Marriage Cert.-John Storm PIPER /Jane FRASER 1906 -1910

Posted: 29 May 2015 5:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: PIPER FRASER
Hi Pat , Just had a glass of wine -with you.
Re the marriage - RCMP records may be available - they may mention where John Storm PIPER - was stationed. There may also be information re a marriage - perhaps at Fort McLeod

You mention Jane was in Manitoba
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
I searched Manitoba Vital Records online - but failed to find information there - that does not mean that nothing exists - only that it may not yet be entered in the index
Date of Marriage - aprox date - might be determined - by the birth date of the first child

Each Province treats the information re Vital Statistics differently - some more open than others
with different time frames for information to be considered Public Record
Alberta appears to consider this information Private -only available to certain persons
British Columbia is pretty good - Births to 1903 [ it used to be In the 101st year - now in the 121st year because people are living longer - Marriage to 1936 - and deaths to 1991 - Full registrations can be viewed online - much better than the $50 fee - before.

Re: Alberta Marriage Cert.-John Storm PIPER d.July y 1954

Posted: 29 May 2015 5:48AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: PIPER, FRASER

John Storm Piper Age:85 Event :Death
Date:1954 7 29 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Place Vancouver
Reg. Number:1954-09-007629
Microfilm #:B13220 (GSU # 2032966)
Father Thomas PIPER
Spouse Florence SMITH
Informant : Son
Registration can be viewed online
https://familysearch.org/search

1916 Canada Census
John Piper Self M 47y England
Jane Piper Wife F 42y Scotland
John Piper Son M 6y Alberta
Percy Piper Son M 4y Alberta


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