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Re: Relations to the Strack/Spiesz family

schiwanore1 — 2013-05-24 18:59:41Z

hello, Did you ever find records on the Strack family from Homolitz. I have a very distant relative with that name and town of birth. Did you know that the church books are available for purchase?

Re: Looking for the Elakovich Family

yugaya — 2013-05-23 23:05:07Z

Family ELAKOVIĆ is from USKOPLJE village, Trebinje area, Bosnia.

In the ship manifests of Elakovićs who emigrated there is also VOLUJAC village from the same area listed as place of origin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebinje

They were Serbian, of Eastern Orthodox faith, and you need to look for your ancestors in the records of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/guide-researching-e...

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Re: Looking for family in Kucura..

yugaya — 2013-05-16 06:06:41Z

Pavel,

I will be putting this up on "Rodoslovlje" website in the research section as a resource for researching Rusyn ancestors from Bosnia but thought you may find it interesting and useful - a scientific paper on the subject of demographics of the Greek Catholic population of Bosnia from 1879. until recent times.

The paper is in Bosnian language, and has lots of useful information in terms of locations of settling, migrations and places of origin before coming to the Balkans. Also helpful in research is the fact that place-names of the towns and villages where they lived are in their current original spelling, so you do not have to resort to old maps in foreign languages when looking for where exactly your ancestors emigrated from - if they were of Rusyn or other Greek Catholic origin from Bosnia .

Let me know if you need help with translation/ where you can find similar scientific resources on this subject:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/119108303/07-Busuladzic-CSP-2003-1

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Re: Looking for family in Kucura..

paulmap1 — 2013-05-06 11:02:49Z

Thank you very much. Very helpful.

Re: Looking for family in Kucura..

yugaya — 2013-05-06 08:28:00Z

Pavel,

That is a screenshot with a working menu on the right side of a digital image of the original record that is available via Kalocsa diocese e-archive of the Roman Catholic Church :

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/

If you register with them, you can browse through digital images of all records for these places and periods :

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=oldal/feldolgozottsag-attekint...

Here are registration details and service packages they offer in English :

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=en/oldal/registration

Each package allows you to download a finite number of .jpeg images ( full page of the original record, with the archive watermark - standard for most e-archives I use ).

I take screenshots when I browse through records - it is easier than taking notes when working through many records simultaneously, and also I believe seeing these original period records may convince people to try and research their ancestors in detail on their own - which is part of our mission at "Rodoslovlje" - helping bring genealogy research of this region to a better quality standard and make it more accessible to people around the world.

My recommendation for this e-archive is based on:

- quality of source materials ( high resolution digital images of original records)

-affordability ( cheaper than any other source or *professional* service you can use to research these records)

-efficiency ( quality software than enables user to browse quickly through records)

-accuracy ( original period records written by parish priests )

-accessibility of support records and additional materials ( too much to go into detail, just a few : searchable index for all other records and materials located in the archive itself like school and parish administration records, for each parish the records of all canonical inspections from earliest period, extensive period church and other related literature)

-availability ( I believe this is the only electronic resource at the moment that offers records for the XX century )

-no religious controversies attached to the use of the resource, because the original author, Kalocsa diocese of the Roman Catholic Church, is the owner of all archived records and this e-archive too.

I also highly recommend this e-archive to anyone researching various branches of ethnic minority families ( German, Czech, Slovak,Rusyn, Bunjevci...) - because these families had a tendency to branch out across religions and communities :

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-cat...

I attached for you to this post one example of a full downloaded image from this archive for earliest available records from Kucura, year 1826, so that you can see how it looks like uncropped.

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Re: Looking for family in Kucura..

paulmap1 — 2013-05-06 01:39:40Z

Yugaya,

very interesting.

may I ask from were did you get this image? Did you scan this yourself? through your service? or is there an online link database.

Pozdrav Paul (Pavel)

Re: Milosrade Vadic

michaelaqs — 2013-05-05 04:37:06Z

Yugaya - check your PM, I'll also send you an email via your site.

M

Re: Dukic , Jaksic , Stojisavljevic

yugaya — 2013-05-03 21:21:11Z

Pavlica rodoslov:

http://poreklo-prezimena-pavlica.webs.com/rodbinskostablopav...

I have to warn you though, I tried to contact the author of the website for more information and received no reply. :(

EDIT:

I received a reply eventually after a year and a half, so if you contact that family web page owner - be patient! :)

Re:

yugaya — 2013-05-03 21:18:50Z

... too many surnames in this thread, I will try to post individual answers to prevent further cluttering. If you wish to ask additional question please post your queries in a new, separate thread.

Please. :)

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/serbian-genealogy

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Re: LIKA

yugaya — 2013-05-03 21:16:51Z

CL@IRE,

I would leave wild and ofter abused theories of origin and labels that foreign oppressors and occupiers used (Morlochs, Vlahs ) to scholars and history - people with the surnames in LIKA you mentioned had their ethnicity formed, established and documented long before most of those who emigrated set off on their journeys.

People I have provided information for in this thread were ethnic Serbs and of Eastern Orthodox faith.

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/guide-researching-e...

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Re: Milosrade Vadic

yugaya — 2013-05-03 20:49:51Z

The name the way you wrote it of your father is probably misread from an official document he had like a passport or an ID card - in Serbia, all official documents will have these things listed:

FIRST NAME
FIRST NAME OF THE FATHER
LAST NAME.

My advice to you is that you try contacting the embassy to contact the authorities in Serbia againa, and to look for

MILOŠ ( son of RADE ) VADIĆ
or
RADE (son of MILOŠ) VADIĆ

- I cannot confirm which first name belonged to whom from the way you have presented it here, nor the original spelling of the surname without original documents or records you have.

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Re: About the family name Orlovic

my_way_18 — 2013-05-03 20:36:45Z

Dear Slobo,
could you find anyone from Ploca so far?
My husband is from Donja Ploca as well.If you would like to get some more information,please send us an e-mail: my_way_18@hotmail.de

Re: Is there anyway to access Serbian Orthodox records online?

yugaya — 2013-05-03 20:33:27Z

I suggest you contact the Serbian Orthodox Church priest who is active on these boards , father Ivan Delić, who is the parish priest in the same region and will be able to help you obtain records from the Serbian Orthodox Church and correspond with you in English language:

His email is :

ivce970@gmail.com

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Re: Visit your ancestral homeland ?

yugaya — 2013-05-03 16:29:57Z

If your ancestors were Serbs from Croatia we recommend you contact the central administration of the Serbian Orthodox Church for Croatia, located in Zagreb - they will provide you with an English-speaking priest for your visit for free and will help you with visiting any of their parishes or temples in Croatia.

address :

Serbian Orthodox Church Mitropoly of Zagreb
Ilica 7/I
10000 Zagreb

tel: +385 1 48 77 531, fax: +385 1 48 77 534

email :

spco.zagreb@gmail.com

They do not allow any unauthorized tour to visit their temples, not even to the cathedral in Zagreb or the Museum of Serbian Orthodox Church, due to past abuses of their hospitality. (information from 2012).

Useful links :

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/serbian-genealogy

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Re: How to read or write Serbian origin of your name?

yugaya — 2013-05-03 15:50:02Z

Best non-scholarly guide I know of for pronunciation of the sounds of Serbian language intended for the native English speakers can be found in "Note on Pronunciation" at the beginning of the book "The Krajina Chronicle" by Srdja Trifkovic :

The Krajina Chronicle: A History of Serbs in Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia

http://www.amazon.com/Krajina-Chronicle-History-Slavonia-Dal...

( use the Click to LOOK INSIDE option to see it )

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JERKOVIĆ surname among ethnic Serbs in ex-Yugoslavia in period records for the second half of the XIX century and first half of the XX century, in case you stumbled onto this thread looking for information on that family :

http://baza.privrednik.net/privrednik.php?startrow=0&t=&...

(click on "Naprijed" to see more pages of results)

Never make any conclusions in regard to ethnicity of people carrying a surname that was present among more than one ethnic group based on what is *typical* or *dominant* - it can only be confirmed based on period records and place of origin.

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Re: OKER AND TEMERIN

yugaya — 2013-05-03 11:57:54Z

Papers as in certificates of birth, marriage and death you can only obtain from the parish church in Temerin and Zmajevo (from church records), and municipal offices in these places (from civil records) - depending for which year civil records are available:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/municipal-offices-s...

Best way you can research possible family connections is the original records, and for Temerin and Zmajevo you can do that via Kalocsa diocese e-archive:

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=en/oldal/registration

Relatives you can most easily find these days via facebook.

You could also try contacting the local newspaper in temerin in Hungarian language - if they run a story on your search for relatives people are more likely to come forward with information and contact you :

Temerini Újság :

http://temeriniujsag.info/fooldal

-att: original birth record of Elias ( Illes) Toth, Zmajevo (Ókér), year 1850.

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Re: Looking for family in Kucura..

yugaya — 2013-05-03 08:32:37Z

In the records for around 1885. of Roman Catholic Church for Kucura village there are parents with surname MAKAI.

This birth is not registered in them, if the information provided on this Makai is from the original birth certificate issued in the country of origin, I suggest to look for him in records of other denominations, or in the civil vital records in the municipal office in Kucura,Serbia. perhaps you could help with that line of research.

-att: surname MAKAI from birth and baptism records of the Kalocs diocese , Kucura, (then)Austria-Hungary, (now) Serbia, year 1884.

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Re: Tomas KISS, b. abt 1874, b. Ókér, Serbia , d. unk. PA USA

yugaya — 2013-05-03 06:25:55Z

He was born in 1875.

I attached his original birth and baptism record , and if you want to research this family you should register for Kalocsa diocese e-archive .

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=en/oldal/registration

All birth, marriage and death records for Zmajevo are available for the period 1826-1922., and are listed under the name of the village in Hungarian language - ÓKÉR

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Re: Rumpf

yugaya — 2013-05-02 15:53:59Z

The original birth record of Elisabeth Rumpf states that both of her parents were born in Futog. That is where you should look for information about ancestors further down the line, her family may have only resided in Novi Sad for a short time between her birth in 1916. and their emigrating.

I suggest you register for Kalocsa diocese e-archive of the Roman Catholic Church which has the records you need available online:

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=en/oldal/registration

In that archive Futog parish is listed under its name in Hungarian language - ÚJFUTAK.

-att: original birth and baptism record of Erzsébet Rümpf, year 1916., Futog, (then) Austria-Hungary, (now) Serbia, parents Pál (Paul) Rümpf and Magdolna Knobl, both from Futog, obtained via Kalocsa diocese e-archive.

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Re: Lajos Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog nr Novi Sad)

yugaya — 2013-05-02 15:25:18Z

You are welcome. :)

To answer your questions:

Ludovicus is his first name in Latin language - its equivalent in Hungarian language is first name Lájos, and in German Ludwig. Which one was his original first name he used will depend on what language he spoke as mother tongue.

Names of the parents as i can read them are:

Franciscus Kern ( that would be Ferenc in Hungarian )

and

Francisca Klumszky.

More information on the parents you will find once you locate their marriage record - it will have their age, names of their parents, maiden surname of the mother, as well as the parish of origin (where they were born).

About registering for this archive - I know that a lot of people gave up on registering with them in the past simply because of the non-flexible method of payment they use. They are part of a church institution and a bit slow to catch onto the whole *online banking* thing. :)

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Re: Lajos Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog nr Novi Sad)

alimac007 — 2013-05-02 12:48:28Z

Thank you so much for your help! I tried briefly to register on the site (I believe they want a bank transfer or money order - no credit card payment online) - I will try and register within the month (and if I have ore trouble I will ask for assistance.) I had no idea Ludovicus was another name for Lajos/Louis. I cannot quite make out the names of his parents from the image you provided. The best I have come up with is Franciscus Kern and Francisca Klurnsery??? Do you have a better idea on those names?
Again, I am most appreciative of your help.

Re: Lajos Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog nr Novi Sad)

yugaya — 2013-05-02 11:38:45Z

I updated my reply to you with new information that is available, you will find the original birth record of Lajos Kern I posted here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.hungary.bacs-...

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Re: Johann Wolf & Katharina Bechtold

yugaya — 2013-05-01 21:47:20Z

Records of the Roman Catholic Church for Budisava are available online via Kalocsa diocese e-archive.

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/?q=en/oldal/registration

Since the records that are available for this village are only for the period 1889-1922, if you provide birth dates of your ancestors and any other information on them you have I will see if I can find them or their family members in these records. Even the smallest original detail like household number is important.

Usually I recommend people register for this e-archive since it is the cheapest and most efficient way to research ancestors from this area, but in your case I need to see first whether the earlier records that are important for your research are under some other location or parish that is available in this e-archive - since Budisava was a new settlement(from 1884.onwards).

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Re: Apatin, Csonoplya records

yugaya — 2013-04-28 19:28:17Z

You can research the original vital records via Kalocsa diocese e-archive, to which both Apatin and Čonoplja belonged at the time your ancestors, parents of Maria were born there.

More info and links how to register for this archive you will find here:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-cat...

and here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.voj...

If you can provide birth years of Maria's parents I can locate their birth records to be the starting point for your research. Original church vital records for both of these parishes are available via this e-archive for the period 1826-1922.

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Re: KALUFSKI

yugaya — 2013-04-28 17:44:24Z

I suggest you register for the Kalocsa diocese e-archive and research these people online in the records of the Roman Catholic parish of Bački Breg, because according to the marriage record from 1910 they were both born in that parish.

More on this e-archive and the links to the website and registration forms you can find here:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-cat...

and here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.voj...

The records available via this online archive for the parish of Bački Breg are birth, marriage and death records for the period 1826 -1922.

If you have any questions or need help please post on Yugoslavia General board:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.gen...

or send me an email ( in my profile).

-att: original marriage record for Mihaly Grubor and Magdolna Kalubszki, year 1910., Bački Breg, Austria-Hungary,(today) Serbia, obtained via Kalocsa diocese e-archive. Parents of the bride are Jakob Kalubszki and Sofia Heffler

Surname in that record is written spelled in Hungarian language. As the family are not ethnic Hungarians but Slovaks, look for how the original surname is spelled in their mother tongue to help you in your research.

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Re: Boyan Mandich

RobertJerin — 2013-04-28 13:39:31Z

Krystal

Milos and Bojan are not uncommon names.

I find several men in various US records some coming from Bosnia, some from Croatia Including 2 men in Chicago by this name birthyears estimated to be 1882 and 1890

There is a WW I Draft Registration (all men of age were required to register even if they did not serve)

He livied in Chicago

He gave his birthdate as May 1880

He listed his nearest relative as Marica MANDIC at Skare, Lika Austria (which is Croatia)

Is this your grandfather?

I find nothing about anyone named Dessie MANDICH. Could this name been a nickname for her?

Records for this Orthodox Parish are found on line, however they are very limited with only the birth,death and marriage records recorded at Family Search.

So a few more details about your Stojan may help pinpoint his birthplace.

Robert Jerin
Croatian Heritage Museum
Cleveland Ohio

Re: Boyan Mandich

yugaya — 2013-04-22 16:49:37Z

Hi Krystal,

I helped with this query and this man cannot be the brother of your grandfather from Serbia because I confirmed his place of birth and he was born in Macedonia. :)

Which town are your MANDIĆ ancestors from? There is a Serbian Orthodox priest who is active on these boards who can assist you with researching your ancestry from central Serbia.

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Re: Boyan Mandich

Cincinnatik6 — 2013-04-22 15:27:50Z

Hello everyone! Boyan is my family member. I saw this thread and was excited! My maiden name is Krystal L. Mandich and my Grandfater's name is Stojan Mandich from Serbia. He has many family members who had came to the U.S. and that still live in Serbia. His brother's served in the military.. Milo and Boyan Mandich, Milo was killed and we never knew what happened to Boyan. My grandfather lived in Chicago when he first arived and made his way to Cincinnati. He married my Grandmother (Dessie Mandich)and lost contact with his family since they were too poor to travel. If you still have the pictures, we would LOVE to have them.

Krystal Mandich Adamson
511 Lang Rd.
Cincinnati Ohio 45244

Re: Novi sad 26 January 1942

yugaya — 2013-04-13 09:32:01Z

KEŠANSKI, daughter of MILORAD, Serbian, unknown age, killed in direct terror Novi Sad 1942

-only this one victim is listed in the official census - if you have information on more members of your family who were killed I urge you to fill out the form attached to this post and send it via mail with any documents you have to the official institution which reviews the Victims of War 1941-1945 Census - Museum of the Victims of Genocide ( Muzej žrtava genocida).

postal address where you should send it:

Muzej Žrtava genocida
11 000 Beograd
trg Nikole Pašića 11/III

- in the book by Mr. Veljić the parents of the little girl are identified too as victims of Novi Sad Raid:

KEŠANSKI MILORAD
KEŠANSKI MARGITA

att:

-official form for information to be added to Victims of War 1941-1945 Census

- page from official Victims of War 1941-1945 Census with information on KEŠANSKI (MILORAD) daughter

-excerpt from Aleksandar Veljić 2011 additional research of the archives results with victims identified KEŠANSKI MILORAD and KEŠANSKI MARGITA.

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Re: Novi sad 26 January 1942

yugaya — 2013-04-13 09:06:54Z

There is the official listing of all victims of fascism during WWII in the form of Victims 1941-1945 Census.

If you provide the names of your ancestors I will look up the information from that census for you.

There is also the official list of victims of Novi Sad massacre which was actually a series of massacres of Jewish and Serbian civilians and others across Vojvodina region that culminated in the Novi Sad Raid.

Most recent contributions to research of this atrocity and identification of all victims have been made by Aleksandar Veljić.

His website in English about Novi Sad Raid 1942 :

http://www.genociderevealed.com/

facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/racija1942

-from his book in Serbian language, listings of all victims by place of residence ( for Novi Sad street by street), ethnicity and the separate listing of the families in which all members were killed :

http://www.makabijada.com/dopis/images/slike/RACIJA.pdf

You can order his book " Genocide Revealed:New Light on the Massacre of Serbs and Jews under Hungarian Occupation" in English via Amazon.

If you prefer to communicate on this subject in private please send me an email to

yugaya@gmail.com

-att. photo : dr Ignjat Pavlas ( first on the left ) and his family, 1923. On January 23rd, 1942 he and his wife could no longer stand waiting in line listening to the screams of men, women and children being shot, killed or just thrown alive into the freezing Danube. They approached the soldiers and asked to go to the front of the line. Holding hands, they jumped into death together followed by the rain of bullets. Only a few minutes later the executive order from Budapest, which was abhorred by the terror being carried out in its name and by its soldiers for days, arrived to the commanding officer and Novi Sad Raid was halted.

-Father of famous writer Danilo Kiš stood in that line on that same day and was released when the killings were ceased. World famous novels of Danilo Kiš (" Early Sorrows", "Garden, Ashes" and "Hourglass" are about his childhood and growing up in the shadow of Novi Sad Raid which destroyed his world - he was seven years old at the time their home was vandalized and father taken away, and most of his friends, neighbours and family perished in the raid and during the war. His father who survived that day was deported a few years later and killed in Auschwitz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danilo_Ki%C5%A1

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Re: Govedarica family from Gacko, Hercegovina, Serbia

yugaya — 2013-04-12 22:03:31Z

if you can scan and send that family tree (in Serbian) to my email:

yugaya@gmail.com

I will see what I can find.

Since most Govedarica families from Gacko actually lived in nerby smaller villages, is there any information you have about the name of that village - that would narrow down your search for living relatives significantly.

EDIT:

OBREN GOVEDARICA arrived in 1907 and traveled to his brother Ilija in Chicago from village MIHOLJAČE.

ILIJA GOVEDARICA from that same village arrived in 1904 and traveled to Chicago.

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passRecord.asp?pID=1034180...

-att: ship manifest for ILIJA GOVEDARICA, 25, from MIHOLJAČE (GACKO), arrival 1904. ( passenger number 14)

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Re: MILUTIN LAZAREVIC

12sookie — 2013-04-12 21:28:29Z

Hello There,
Thanks again for supplying the additional information on where to research.
Firstly I guess I have establish if Milutin was born Smederevska Palanka before I go any further. This I have attempted in the past with no results. Will attempt again!
Kind Regards
Helen Herfurth

Re: MILUTIN LAZAREVIC

yugaya — 2013-04-12 21:14:20Z

You are welcome. :)

Best way to locate living relatives is to contact local TV web page for Smederevska Palanka :

http://www.devic.tv/kontakt.php

or local newspaper:

e-mail: info@palanacke.com
web: www.palanacke.com

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Re: MILUTIN LAZAREVIC

yugaya — 2013-04-12 21:01:54Z

Names of the parents in Serbian language:

Ljubo Lazarević
Katarina Đurić

His birth is registered in both civil birth records ( kept in municipal office) and in church vital records that are in posession of the Serbian Orthodox Church.

Municipal offices in Serbia will issue you an official birth certificate based on his DOB but only if you prove you are a direct descendant and pay local taxes for that document .

As far as I know - communicating with them in English is pointless and you must find someone in Serbia who will pay the tax ( about 10 Euros ) to their local-only bank account.

List of contact details for municipal offices in Serbia:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/general-forum/municipal-off...

For church records I suggest you contact Vanja Panić, Rodoslovlje researcher for Serbia. He will be able to correspond in English with you.

Vanja's Serbian genealogy web page :

http://www.kotraza.rs/

contact form :

http://www.kotraza.rs/kontakt.html

Also in regard to church records I suggest you contact Serbian Orthodox Church priest who is active on these boards, father Ivan Delić:

his profile:

http://community.ancestry.com/profile.aspx?mba=008007D3-0006...

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Re: MILUTIN LAZAREVIC

12sookie — 2013-04-12 20:59:56Z

Hello, Thank You for your reply and for information you supplied on where to start the search for Milutin Lazarevic in Serbia.
Kind regards
Helen Herfurth

Re: Serbian Surnames ending with "in"

Mohnbauer — 2013-04-12 18:05:11Z

Fr. Ivan Delic and yugaya.
real good info, i like it! ^_^
of good help for many people i think! ;)

Re: Serbian Surnames ending with "in"

yugaya — 2013-04-09 13:17:29Z

The authorities in Austria (-Hungary), especially in the Vojvodina region had at one point by law banned the -ić surname suffix - i have to look up my notes, off the top of my head I think the year was 1814 when this law was enforced but it was practiced by the authorities even a century before that.

By that time the family names of the Serbs were already firmly established, so they got trunckated and many ended up with -OV, -EV, -IN suffix replacement ending surnames.

list of these Serbian surnames from Wikipedia:

http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%B0...

Some families in church records had their full surnames preserved, and some reverted them back to the original ones at a later point.

Any research of any such Serbian surname needs to be conducted keeping in mind all of these possibilities when looking at the records of the parish you need. Keep an eye on all Terzić, Terzijin, Terzija families from the area, chances are you are related.

-an article in English I wrote for Rodoslovlje on the process of assimilation of Slavic surnames in Austria-Hungaray:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/magyarization-serbi...

-a good research article in Serbian on this subject:

http://www.srpsko-nasledje.co.rs/sr-l/1998/11/article-14.htm...

Takođe zahvaljujem ocu Deliću na doprinosu ovoj temi i nadam se da ćemo i sa Vama ili Vašom parohijom uspostaviti saradnju u ime članova Srpskog Rodoslovnog Društva , moj mejl je yugaya@gmail.com i molila bih Vas da mi se javite.

"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
http://www.rodoslovlje.com/

Re: MILUTIN LAZAREVIC

12sookie — 2013-04-02 05:32:01Z

Hi There, Requiring documented birth information for
MILUTIN LAZAREVIC
DOB: 2nd December, 1912
POB: Smederevska Palanka Serbia
Mother: Katharina Djuric
Father: Liubio Lazarevic

Re: MILUTIN LAZAREVIC

12sookie — 2013-04-02 05:30:02Z

Hi There, Requiring documented birth information for
MILUTIN LAZAREVIC
DOB: 2nd December, 1912
POB: Smederevska Palanka Serbia
Mother: Katharina Djuric
Father: Liubio Lazarevic

Re: Govedarica family from Gacko, Hercegovina, Serbia

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-18 13:51:02Z

You're welcome.
Zlatica

Re: Govedarica family from Gacko, Hercegovina, Serbia

corinne930 — 2013-03-18 05:07:47Z

Thank You, the first entry is Obren Govedarica my great Uncle. I have a family tree written in Serbian,and translated into English by my Uncle William Govedarica. However, I can't place if the other names are 1st or 2nd cousins. I believe they are related.

Re: Grgich/Grgic

Dalol — 2013-03-17 05:28:13Z

Thank you that's great. I wasn't familiar with these sites. I'll check them out.

Re: Govedarica family from Gacko, Hercegovina, Serbia

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-17 02:19:17Z

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/

Govedarica, Abren Gacko 21 1886 1907
Govedarica, Augja Gackom, Croatia 18 1895 1913
Govedarica, Nikola Gacko 17 1889 1906
Govedarica, Yakov Gacko 23 1882 1905
Govedarica, Augja Gackom, Croatia 18 1895 1913
Govedarica, Hersto Gacho 21 1884 1905
Govedarica, Hrsto Gacho 21 1884 1905
Govedarica, Marko Gargo 20 1887 1907
source: www.ellisislandrecords.org

http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/govedaric...

http://genforum.genealogy.com/serbia/

Re: Immigration information for a Louis S Piper

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-17 02:12:56Z

Christopher

Most likely changed the surname when he was naturalized citizen. Do see if you can locate his intent & petition.
If he had a social security numbers than his SS-5Form might have his place of birth.
His church marriage records should be requested as well.

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/

Re: Grgich/Grgic

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-03-17 01:31:48Z

www.croatia-in-english.com

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/

http://feefhs.org

GRGIC^ surname shows up in Slovenia's phone book.
http://www.itis.si/Page_SearchResults.aspx

Grgich/Grgic

Dalol — 2013-03-15 11:36:07Z

I'm hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction. My GG-Grandmother was Madeline (this was probably anglicised) Grgic (this was anglicised to Georgevich). She was born 14 March, Abt 1847. Her father was Nics. (as on her marriage certificate), ship builder and she had a sister Marie. They were all living in Izmir (formerly Smyrna, Turkey) in the 1860-1920s. I've recently had a DNA test which shows Serbian ancestry. Does anyone have any ideas or pointers for me?

Govedarica family from Gacko, Hercegovina, Serbia

corinne930 — 2013-03-13 03:10:10Z

I am searching for my great grandfather and grandmother from Gacko, hercegovina, Serbia. Ilija Govedarica left Gacko and arrived about 1907.His brother Obren Govedarica arrived in N.Y. 13 June 1907. They lived in Chicago,Illinois at 1608 Fullerton St. I'd appreciate any info you can offer. Thank You, Corinne

Immigration information for a Louis S Piper

10191986 — 2013-03-12 09:48:52Z

Louis Stanley Piper immigrated to the US in 1918 according to the 1920 census he appears in with his wife Pearl Estella Easterly and son Stanley Louis Piper. He would be my Neice's 3rd Great Grandfather on her fathers side, her Grandmother has told her there original last name was Skankovich sp? If anyone can help me find some information on his parents and siblings it would be greatly appreciated.

Born
Apr 19 1887 in Serbia/Yugoslavia

Re: Petrovic Petrovich Belgrad

lindapetrovich1 — 2013-03-06 12:37:59Z

I would love to learn anything you know about the Sturtz family. There was a Joseph Sturtz who married Alberta Cromer; you can see them in my family tree. Anthony and Constance were my great grandparents. Their daughter, Sophie, was my paternal grandmother, but I never knew her. Sophie married Peter Petrovich (and her sister, Martha, married Peter's brother, Joseph); their son, Leroy Petrovich, is my father. Do you have any information about Anthony and Constance's history, siblings, etc.?

Re: Petrovic Petrovich Belgrad

o_who_cares13 — 2013-03-06 05:52:40Z

I believe I'm a decendant of Anthony & Constance Sturtz. I think there was a son Joseph Sturtz who married Alberta Sturtz. Joseph Sturtz was killed in a mine accident when he was 36 I believe. I am trying to confirm this.