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Maria Pohribniak Prychodczenko b. 1925, in Stupke, Ukraine

Contribution — 2013-01-08 21:49:05Z

SALEM, Ohio – Maria Prychodczenko, 87, slipped away quietly with her family by her side at 12:30 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 6, 2013, at Vibra Hospital of Mahoning Valley in Boardman, Ohio.

She was born Jan. 28, 1925, in Stupke, Ukraine, in the Poltava Region, the daughter of the late David and Fania Pohribniak.

Maria had worked in Austria for seven years before coming to the United States on Dec. 24, 1949.

Mrs. Prychodczenko was a high school graduate and before her retirement in 1986 had last been employed at Salem Tool Company in Salem as custodian.

She had also been a housekeeper for Norman Pedersen, who sponsored her to come to this country, and housekeeper for both Henry Anderson and Richard Sekely.
She was also a custodian for John Sudol.
She was a member of the Sts. Peter and Paul Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Youngstown. She enjoyed vegetable and flower gardening, working on the farm and spending time with her grandchildren and family.

Her husband, Mykola Prychodczenko, whom she married Sept. 9, 1950, survives her along with two daughters, Nancy (Wayne) Tiedeman of Boardman, Ohio and Anna Maria (David) Anderson of Salem, Ohio; and three grandchildren, Nicholas, Peter, and Katherine Anderson.

A son, David J. Prychodczenko, preceded her in death in 1957.
A sister, Katya; and two brothers, Mykola and Petro, also preceded her in death.

A funeral service will be held at 10 a.m. on Friday, Jan, 11, 2013, at Sts. Peter and Paul Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Youngstown, Ohio.

Calling hours will be held on Thursday from 5 to 8 p.m. at the Stark Memorial Funeral Home with a Panahida Service at 7:30 p.m. with Father Gregory Becker officiating.

Burial will be at Sts. Peter and Paul Ukrainian Orthodox Church Cemetery.

Memorial contributions may be made to the Sts. Peter and Paul Ukrainian Orthodox Church Building Fund, 1025 North Belle Vista Ave., Youngstown, OHIO 44509.

Visit www.starkmemorial.com to view this obituary and send condolences to the family online

Sigall - Sigalsky from kremenchug.

braw_wee_dug — 2012-12-26 17:12:53Z

My great grandfather, Samuel sigall (parents Leiber or Leon and Rachel Sigall - nee Shabelny) stated on Australian naturalisation papers that he was from kremenchug.
How can I access his birth certificate?

Linetsky / Lenetsky of Kremenchuk

sjadelson — 2012-10-03 16:42:08Z

I am related to Boris Lenetsky (1884-1966), b. Kremenchuk and migrated to Montreal about 1907, then to Philadelphia in the mid 1920s. There seems to be a fair number of Linetsky / Lenetsky / Lenetzky in the same boat (figuratively speaking here), and I'm trying to connect Boris to this group. Can anyone help?

Note that there was a Boris Lenetsky who died in Montreal in 1910... Different guy, although potentially related.

Re: Bernstein Kremenchug, Chisinau, Bendery and Moldova

brenda_habshush — 2012-02-19 20:14:02Z

Shalom,
My grandfather was Simon (Yehoshua) Bernstein.Born Kremenchug (1870)
parents: Israel and Cissie.
Simon sailed to Leeds,England and married Annie Lightman (Vilna)My father was one of their 8 chidren.
All are buried in Leeds UK.
I never found any other Bernstein relatives from Kremenchug.
Was your family from that town,in Ukraine ???
Sincerely, Brenda Habshush. Kibbutz Sde Boker. Israel.

Re: Bernstein Kremenchug, Chisinau, Bendery and Moldova

samrbg — 2012-02-19 19:21:38Z

Shalom Brenda,
I have just saw your message. My great-grandfather Moishe? Nissin - Nathan (Nissin)- son of Israel (Isrl) and Genyah? Berenstein (Bernstein or Berenshteyn). I think That Israel was son of Benyamin. I think too, that Israel married again to one woman that I don`'t remember now her name but I can see it. What I know from jewishgen (website) is that they came before Chisinau, and before from Bendery and from Gubernia and BieloRussia?. I know that Nissin had many brothers and sisters, I can see it for yu too if yu want. Nissin married to Tzyrl Kats and they had 7 sons: Froike (?), Itzik, Moishe, Berl (Boris), Simrrah (Simao - my great-grandfather), Zanvl (Sioma) and Leib. Nissin married again with Mirke that already had a daughter called Shprintze(a) that emigrated to Argentina. If yu have questions please tell me, all the best.

Re: Im search family Козлов, (Kozlov)

Mighthelp — 2011-09-11 04:47:06Z

There are 19,319 Kozlov currently living in Ukraine.

Re: Villages of Kostyuky, Trubaitsi, Kulyky, and Bovbasivka

Mighthelp — 2011-09-08 06:44:23Z

I ran your surnames in conjunction with your village names and the List of Terror for Poltava came up. There were quite a few of Mama's clan who were arrested and sentenced to hard labor in Siberia.
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БОВА Костянтин Петрович, 1902 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у
с. Бовбасівка. Без певних занять. Заарештований вперше 21 листопада 1932 р. Засуджений Особливою нарадою при Колегії ДПУ УСРР
3 лютого 1933 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УСРР до 3 років заслання. Після повернення працював на торфорозробках. Заарештований вдруге
7 вересня 1937 р. Засуджений Особливою трійкою при УНКВС Харківської обл. 17 вересня 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до розстрілу
з конфіскацією особистого майна. Вирок виконано 13 жовтня 1937 р. Реабілітований Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 3 травня 1989 р.

БОВА Опанас Петрович, 1913 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у
с. Бовбасівка. Без певних занять. Заарештований вперше 21 листопада 1932 р. Засуджений Особливою нарадою при Колегії ДПУ УСРР
13 лютого 1933 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УСРР до 3 років заслання. Заарештований вдруге 2 жовтня 1937 р. Засуджений Особливою трійкою
при УНКВС Харківської обл. 16 жовтня 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до 10 років позбавлення волі. Реабілітований Полтавською
обласною прокуратурою 23 квітня 1990 р. та Полтавським обласним судом 31 жовтня 1963 р.

БОВА Панас Іванович, 1899 р., м.Хорол Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у с.Попівка Хорольського р-ну
Полтавської обл. Священик місцевої церкви. Заарештований 17 березня 1931 р. Засуджений Особливою нарадою при Колегії ДПУ УСРР
13 листопада 1931 р. за ст.54-10, 54-11 КК УСРР до 3 років позбавлення волі. Заарештований вдруге 4 серпня 1937 р. Засуджений
Особливою трійкою при УНКВС Харківської обл. 25 серпня 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до розстрілу. Вирок виконано 4 вересня 1937 р.
у м. Харків. Реабілітований Полтавським обласним судом 14 березня 1969 р., Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 29 квітня 1990 р.

КУЛИК Григорій Степанович, 1887 р., с. Кулики Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, малописьменний. Проживав у с. Кулики.
Колгоспник. Заарештований 6 вересня 1937 р. Засуджений Особливою трійкою при УНКВС Харківської обл. 17 вересня 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1
КК УРСР до 10 років позбавлення волі. Реабілітований Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 7 лютого 1990 р.

КУЛИК Іван Гаврилович, 1899 р., с. Кулики Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова.
Проживав у с. Кулики. Без певних занять. Заарештований 28 жовтня 1937 р. Засуджений Особливою трійкою при УНКВС
Полтавської обл. 13 листопада 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до розстрілу з конфіскацією особистого майна. Вирок
виконано 26 листопада 1937 р.

КУЛИК Іван Якимович, 1912 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у м. Харків.
Робітник заводу. Заарештований 10 грудня 1932 р. Засуджений Особливою нарадою при Колегії ДПУ УСРР 20 лютого 1933 р. за ст.ст. 54-10,
78 КК УСРР до 3 років позбавлення волі. Реабілітований Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 17 квітня 1990 р.

КУЛИК Йосип Микитович, 1893 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у с.
Бовбасівка. Селянин-одноосібник. Заарештований 20 листопада 1932 р. Засуджений Особливою нарадою при Колегії ДПУ УСРР 19 січня 1933 р.
за ст. 54-10 КК УСРР до 3 років заслання у Північний край. Реабілітований Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 21 квітня 1990 р.

КУЛИК Карпо Гаврилович, 1902 р., с. Трубайці Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у с.
Трубайці. Без певних занять. Заарештований 28 жовтня 1937 р. Засуджений Особливою трійкою при УНКВС Полтавської обл. 13 листопада 1937 р. за
ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до розстрілу з конфіскацією особистого майна. Вирок виконано 26 листопада 1937 р. Реабілітований Полтавською обласною
прокуратурою 17 квітня 1989 р.

КУЛИК Лука Григорович, 1894 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у
с. Вереміївка Чорнобаївського р-ну Черкаської обл. Робітник селекційної станції. Заарештований 26 листопада 1937 р. Засуджений
Особливою трійкою при УНКВС Полтавської обл. 30 листопада 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до 8 років позбавлення волі.
Реабілітований Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 12 січня 1990 р.

КУЛИК Микола Гордійович, 1906 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта початкова. Проживав у
с. Бовбасівка. Робітник підприємства. Заарештований 4 жовтня 1937 р. Засуджений Особливою трійкою при УНКВС Харківської обл.
16 жовтня 1937 р. за ст. 54-10 ч. 1 КК УРСР до 10 років позбавлення волі. Реабілітований Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 22 листопада 1989 р.

КУЛИК Панас Микитович, 1888 р., с. Бовбасівка Хорольського р-ну Полтавської обл., українець, із селян, освіта середня. Проживав у
с. Худоліївка Семенівського р-ну Полтавської обл. Вчитель. Заарештований 8 березня 1928 р. Засуджений Особливою нарадою при
Колегії ОДПУ 18 травня 1928 р. за ст. 54-10 КК УСРР до 3 років заслання у Сибір. Особливою нарадою при Колегії ОДПУ 18 лютого 1931 р.
за ст. 54-10 КК УСРР позбавлений права проживання у вказаних областях з прикріпленням до певного місця проживання. Реабілітований
Полтавською обласною прокуратурою 7 лютого 1995 р.

Re: Villages of Kostyuky, Trubaitsi, Kulyky, and Bovbasivka

Mighthelp — 2011-09-08 05:39:04Z

Selo/village Bovbasivka (Бовба́сівка) is hamlet size, consisting of 366 residents> Khorolskij raion/county > Poltavska oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip code 37861. Because of its size it is clustered with selo Trubajtsi (Трубайці) with which it shares the village mayor and the post offce. Bovbasivka is 3.5 miles SSW of Trubajtsi.

Google Map - if it comes up blank, submit BOVBASIVKA.
http://maps.google.com/maps?z=9&q=49.6500,33.3000+(Bovba...)

Villages of Kostyuky, Trubaitsi, Kulyky, and Bovbasivka

mprykhodko — 2011-07-31 04:55:57Z

I'm looking for any information about those villages: pictures, news, etc.
My mother's side of the family has lived there for hundreds of years and I've been told that there is still a distant relative in Bovbasivka. I spent much of my childhood in Kulyky and Kostyuky.
Do the surnames Kulyk, Gvozdik, or Bova ring a bell to anyone in this particular area?

Re: GEORGIYEVA Family

Mighthelp — 2011-04-07 04:12:36Z

Three males and two females listed as residents in regional center, Poltava.

Георгiєв В С Парижской коммуны ул.
Георгiєв М С Коллективная ул.
Георгiєв Н М Полюсная ул.
Георгiєва Т П Терешки, Шевченко Т. ул.
Георгiєва Ю В Гожулянская ул.
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What are you specifically looking for?

GEORGIYEVA Family

georgiyeva12345 — 2011-04-01 06:25:44Z

Hi, I would like to know if you have any information about the Georgiyeva family. Thanks.

Re: Soltanoff Family - (maybe Soltanov)

nvaynberg56 — 2011-03-09 05:57:28Z

DID YOU CHECK THIS WEBSITE?https://www.familysearch.org/

Soltanoff Family - (maybe Soltanov)

jakamom — 2011-01-21 19:39:51Z

I am looking for the family of my grandfather, Samuel Soltanoff, who came from Kremenchug, Ukraine, in 1904.
His father was Michael & his mother was Fanny. These are American spellings of the names.

Re: makarenko family

SurnameIndex — 2009-11-24 01:43:07Z

Makarenko (Макаренко): http://www.surnameindex.info/results.html?cx=partner-pub-748...

Re: Im search family Козлов, (Kozlov)

SurnameIndex — 2009-11-24 01:40:49Z

Plenty of Kozlov here: http://www.surnameindex.info/results.html?cx=partner-pub-748...

Voskanyan

leaham59 — 2009-08-30 11:02:29Z

I am looking for a lost family by the name Voskanyan, who lived in 1950's in piratyn, Can anybody help?

Re: Poltava - town or region

lorsyl2 — 2009-02-25 06:31:26Z

There are four Poltava's in Russia. Russia uses the 'v' alphabet. 'w'is Polish.
Poltava, Russia 708.6 miles S of Moskva
Poltava, Poitavskaya, Poltavskaya, Russia 2144.8 miles ENE of Moskva
Poltava, Poltavskiy, Russia 2443.2 miles ENE of Moskva
Poltava, Russia 458.2 miles SSE of Moskva
Poltava, Russia 452.1 miles SSE of Moskva
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermain...=

Re: Poltava - town or region

lizziemick — 2009-02-25 05:47:00Z

Hi and thanks for the reply, Mum was born in POLTAWA RUSSIA in 1922 as stated in her files which I should have put in my first post, does this make a difference with what area I should be searching for birth records?

Thank you Liz.

Re: Poltava - town or region

lorsyl2 — 2009-02-25 05:14:27Z

Poltava, Ukraine 304.5 miles E of Kiev
Poltava, Poltawa seat of a first-order administrative division Ukraine 189.0 miles ESE of Kiev
Poltava, Ukraine 341.9 miles E of Kiev
Poltava, Ukraine 311.1 miles E of Kiev

Re: Poltava - town or region

lizziemick — 2009-02-24 21:01:12Z

HI, my mothers documents is written she was born in Poltawa, and I was asked was it the town or village as I am searching for her birth records.??? It seems there is a village Poltava???

Regards Liz
AUSTRALIA

Alexandra Yuditskaya, Born 1890 Poltava, Father,Constantine, Mother, Helene

morganrdavis1 — 2008-08-31 03:07:16Z

Married a German, Heinrich Hencky in 1918 after he was interned in the Ural Mountains(1915-1918). they then moved all around europe, (Heinrich was a Professor of Physics for MIT and never stayed long anyware) Wondering What happened to her Mom and Pop, sisters? Brothers? Father was a Dentist and Restaurateur. Any Yuditskayas out there??????

Poltava - town or region

orrrich — 2008-01-08 18:20:30Z

Just to clarify that Poltava is both a region and a town. Culturally, would someone refer to themselves as being from the town or the region? My family just indicated being from Poltava on their documents.

Searching for Holfon or Chalfon

orrrich — 2008-01-08 18:17:55Z

The spellings have been garbled through immegration. Don't know father's name. Mother is Risa (1863) and children are Arkady, Esfir (1885), Sarra (1886) and Boris (1888). At most, in Poltava until 1914.

Re: Bernstein Kremenchug

brenda_habshush — 2007-08-30 13:55:20Z

Shalom,
I am returning to your message after having read it once more. I wonder, can you find out if Israel Berenshtein ever left Odessa for Kremenchug ? What was the name of Israel's wife ?
Still searching ! Brenda Habshush,Israel.

Andor D. Smith or David Brady (Breude) Jewish

juliekrt — 2007-08-05 07:24:31Z

Andor D. Listed in 1910 Iowa Census as immigrating from Russia-Germany in 1885. His granddaughter, Marilyn Smith Brady told me that he may have come from Poltava.

Marilyn's father, David Brady (Breude) also immigrated around 1885 or 1888 and lived in the Moline/Rock Island, Illinois area when he was married to Jennie Smith, daughter of Andor.

If anyone has information about these people I would appreciate knowing.

today selo Orchyk in Kharkivska (Kharkiv) Oblast/Region

Mighthelp — 2007-05-23 13:43:03Z

District and regional borders have changed since 1920.

FYI (for your information) Poltavskaya Gubernia was created in 1802.
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At first I zeroed in on Velikij Yerchyky in Kiev Region.
I did then find an Orchyk River in more Eastern Ukraine.
This lead me to Zachepilivka Raion/District in Kharkivska Oblast. It literally borders the Poltava and Kharkiv Regions. This immediate area was settled in the first half of 18th century by Zaporizhia Cossacks.

Within Zachepilivskij raion there is a Malij Orchyk next door to an Orchyk (also referred to as Russkij Orchyk and Velikij Orchyk).

I suspect this is father's ancestral village today???

selo/village Orchyk (coordinates 49.12-35.04) > Zachepilivskij raion > Kharkivska Oblast > Ukraine,
latest zip code for village 64431.

http://bastion.kharkivoda.gov.ua/show.php?page=zachepilivska

Consider writing a letter to Village Administrator (Holovi Silskoji Rady) inquiring re any surviving family still in the village. There are about 18,000 people living in the district, within the appx 30 villages and 2 larger towns, Lebyazhe and Zachepilivka.

Additionally, contact Oblast Archives and inquire where metrykal records for village might be located.

It does not look like LDS (Mormon Church) has filmed anything from Zachepilivka District, but this is a complicated area because of all the border changes between districts and regions and I could be wrong. You might consider looking at catalogue link below. I hope the URL holds. I found possibilities, but I am not sure.

State Archives of Kharkiv Oblast
[Derzhavnyi arkhiv Kharkivskoi oblasti]
Moskovskyi Prospekt, 7
61003, Kharkiv
Tel/Fax: (0572) 12-66-43, 12-65-15
E-mail: gaho@ukr.net
Working hours: Monday-Friday, 8:00-17:00
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Taken from LDS CATALOGUE
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermain...++
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Can you read Ukrainian or Russian?

Im search family Козлов, (Kozlov)

krzychoo2 — 2007-05-07 04:42:13Z

Good day
Im living in Poland. It searchs for my family living , Великий Орчик Ukraine, gubernia Poltavska
It called grandfather Aleksander Kozlow, Козлов, (Kozlov) born to 1894 year. Grandmother of grandfather had on name Marja, father Prokop.
Grandfather emigrated for Poland 1920 year, with soldiers of cossack hetmans Petlura. In 1940 year has died.
Im search for my family on Ukraine or documents.
Documents photo my grandfather is http://www.net.piotrkow.pl/dziadek_dokumenty/

makarenko family

rsmaka06 — 2007-03-09 06:08:55Z

boris makarenko looking for sisters and mother. sisters halya and maria. contact me at rsmaka06@hotmail.com. thanks

Re: Harchenko and Vechuzena

lorsyl2 — 2007-02-17 06:15:10Z

I am so sorry .... I missed the earlier messages!

Re: Harchenko and Vechuzena

lorsyl2 — 2007-02-17 06:10:34Z

Victoria, Australia:
Kharchenko O
3 Anthony Ct Ringwood 3134
Phone: (03) 8802 0912
Note: 'Kh' in Ukrainian has a 'h' sound ... you would have to really listen for the 'k' sound in that name.

Re: Harchenko and Vechuzena

tessawilbe — 2007-02-15 22:58:33Z

Hi, I'm his great granddaughter from his first marriage (his daughter Eugenia was my grandmother). I believe you have spoken to my father, Ernest Wilbe.

We have found out much, but there are still gaps in our knowledge.

We'd like to know how they got from Odessa to Harbin, China.

We'd like to know when his firt wife and son Willie went back to Russia.

We'd like any info on Willie.

Many thanks

Tess

Re: Harchenko and Vechuzena

greghunter2005 — 2007-02-15 02:06:57Z

Hi
I'm his grandson from his second marriage in Australia How can i Help?

Re: Genealogical Tree ADDRESS CHANGE

ErnestGreen45 — 2007-01-05 19:57:15Z

My new address is ekgreen@adelphia.net. Roots Web can not get my address to change. They said they are working on it.

Re: displaced family ADDRESS CHANGE

ErnestGreen45 — 2007-01-05 19:56:49Z

My new address is ekgreen@adelphia.net. Roots Web can not get my address to change. They said they are working on it.

Bernstein Kremenchug

BHabshush — 2006-12-01 21:16:13Z

In the year 1870 my grandfather, Simon Bernstein was born to Cissie and Israel Zvi Bernstein. From where is it likely to see records of births/deaths/marriages, and to seek Bernsteins from Kremenchug ?
Write to Brenda Habshush, Sde Boker, Israel.

Harchenko and Vechuzena

2006-11-08 04:58:57Z

Am looking for info on:

Gregory Harchenko b.1876
Elizabeth Harchenko

Migrated to Australia in 1912

Gregory stayed
Elizabeth returned with son, Willie in 1914 or 1918

belovsky family

2006-08-23 03:11:13Z

looking for Belovsky family from Lubny- any knowledge?

Niklowicz family

modmob — 2006-06-13 14:21:41Z

Gfather, Andrew Niklowicz, b. 1892 in Poland, Ukraine, Austria or White Russia. Father: Blazcy Niklowicz Mother: Mary Dinega Other spellings: Nicklowicz or Niklewicz Thanks for any info. Gordena

Re: Bernstein Kremenchug

fberensteingrinspun — 2005-10-10 02:57:39Z

My family Berenstein came from Chisinau, today moldavia and before it they came from Bender (Bendary) – Bessarabia.
I searched in Ellis Island site and I found there my probabily relatives. Theyr name are: Itzek Bernstein, arrived in 1911, with 21 years old, from Kischiniew, Russia, in the Valderland ship from Antwerp, Belgium port, and his daughter Tillie Bernstein, arrived in USA on octuber , 9th, 1922 with 9 years old, she came from the port of Naples, Campania, Italy, and she is an USA citizen. My name is Samuel R. Berenstein Grinspun, my great-grandfather was Simrre (Simha) Berenstein and he had 5 brother: Froike, Itzik Gerhs (Hirsh), Moishe, Berl who married to Marim (Miriam) who had 4 children: Moishe(Misha), Manha, Lucy and more one boy, Zanvl(Zioma) who married to Sara Rivlocka and came to Bucares and more one boy who died still baby, probabily named Leyb Ber(e)nshteyn. They came from Kishinev - today Moldavia. I have one photografy of Tillie Bernstein from Galati. We know that Itzik married and emigrated to Brooklyn - USA and he lived on Bristoll road aproximatedelly in 1935. I"m looking for his descendants. The name of the parents of Itzik are Nissin and Tzyrl Freyde Kats.The name of the father of Nissin was Israel Berenshteyn. Nissin married again to Mirke who already had one daughter named Sprintzer who came to Buenos Aires - Argentina. Nissin had relatives in Odessa - Ucrayne. Yu must research in the archives of Jewishgen about the registers from Romenia, there are so many good documents there. Can yu tell me about your family history?

Re: Shibko

2005-08-24 15:58:19Z

I wish I could help you. I'm trying to discover other Shibko relatives. I don't know the ancestory of my father, James Rissman Shibko, and his father, Joseph Shibko. I was born in Chicago, IL in 1946. My father was also born in Chicago. I do know that my father had a great aunt that lived in Denver, CO by the name of Amelia Earhart Shibko and died at 100 years old when I was child.

Re: Search of Karkach

2005-06-11 21:58:40Z

hello may name is wael karkach. my i know the reason for your search. please do email me back on wael19809@hotmail.com
regards

Re: poltava-shibko

stacyMurphy68 — 2005-03-17 18:30:01Z

The papers were drwn up in Munich.

Re: poltava-shibko

2005-03-16 17:52:23Z

What is your father's name? In what city in Germany the adoption papers were made?

Re: poltava-shibko

2005-03-16 14:58:53Z

http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pages/D/I/Displacedpers...
This page says a bit about displaced persons after WWII.
As to being merried to a person with German name, yes, it was normal, since Germans lived in Ukraine and Russia for centuries. However, it became a great disadvantage politically, when Gemany went with war on USSR. As I mentioned before, people of German origin, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Bulgars, Tatars, Gypsy, Chechens, and also Ukrainians, and Pols of USSR became a subject to political prosecution due simply to their nationality. About 20 millions did not survive the Gulag ( Soviet concentration camps).
Your grandmother, probably, eventually ended up abroad, possibly, USA (if this is where you are from), since she probably knew where the adoptive family was from. It would be logical that when time came to immigrate, she'd choose USA, just to stay somehow closer to the child she'd given up. Such is mother's heart. Of course, she could also stay in Germany.
Thus, Ukrainian sources can help find out her maiden name, place of her birth, info on her first husband and her older kids. May be she had siblings.

Shoihet Shabshis Epelman Shinder families

ashoihet — 2005-03-16 02:06:27Z

Does anyone know of Shinder and Shabshis families in Pliskov, Ukraine.After 1941 my grandmother Fanya Davidovna moved to Kiev.

Also does anyone know of Epelman family from Zhytomir, Ukraine?They lived there from arout 1900 until after the war.

Please email Adele on aneedlem@bigpond.net.au

poltava-shibko

stacyMurphy68 — 2005-03-16 01:05:50Z

My grandmother was from poltava, ukraine. Her surname was shibko. I don't know anything about her husband (NOT my dad's father) except that he perished in the war. I have learned that Klassen is a german name. Obviously she married him way before WWII. Her husband must have died between 1941 and 1944. (Was it odd for a ukrainian to marry a german during that era?) My paper work says she and her children (ages 10 and 14 then) went to germany and became "forced laborers".I don't have a camp name either. I do not believe she was in a concentration camp. I don't have a camp name either. She probably would have never survived long enough to have had my father. I also know that she was born in 1906.
As you can tell, I don't have too much information about her. It's very frustrating. Any help would greatly be appreciated.
If you'd like you can email me directly to murphy.653@osu.edu

Re: Poltava

stacyMurphy68 — 2005-03-16 00:53:59Z

That would be great if you could do that!!! What sort of things should I ask about? I can't tell what the web page says so I don't have any clue as to what kinds of questions I should ask. Could you give me any ideas?

PS..where are you from?

Re: Poltava

2005-03-15 14:46:31Z

You can send me text of what you want to ask them, I'll adress it to them in Russian. My e-mail : gesigner@earthlink.net It is free.

Re: Poltava

2005-03-15 14:25:31Z

Name Klassen is not Ukrainian, it is, perhaps, of German origin, or Lithuanian. Since she moved to Germany in 1944, during WWII, could it be that she was taken to concentration camp by Nazi, or she went there voluntarily?
Was she living in a Displaced Persons Camp? From those camps ( among them Ukrainian one was the most organised), people went after war abroad, to USA and Kanada, some stayed in Germany, some even naively returned back to USSR ( to be executed by Stalin regime as traitors, unfortunately).
What you are saying is that your Ukrainian grandfather was not Klassen, and your grandmother Katherina Klassen ( Shibko) knew him somewhere beetween 1944-1946, which, probably happenned in a Displaced Persons Camp.
Her first husband, Klassen, was he killed in action ? During WWII people og German origin were taken from the front, arrested and sent to Gulag by Stalin.

Re: "Center of Civil Connections" in Poltava.

stacyMurphy68 — 2005-03-14 23:42:44Z

I can't read the website. I believe it's in Russian.