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sicora

sicoravera — 2013-06-16 17:12:51Z

My name is Vera Sikora, I am the daughter of Michael Sikora (1905-1991) from Stoyanov. My father had a sister Paranika Wetow (Sikora). Now I live in Russia (Yaroslavl). My mail is sikoravera@mail.ru

sicora

sicoravera — 2013-06-16 17:08:27Z

My name is Vera Sikora, I am the daughter of Michael Sikora from Stoyanov. My father had a sister Параника Витов. Now I live in Russia (Yaroslavl). My mail is sikoravera@mail.ru

Re: Looking For Ukrainian Family Tree in

Mighthelp — 2013-05-30 15:04:17Z

BERESKA [Ru] BEREZKA [Polish]

Lesko District, present day SE Poland

Lemko Surnames found in 1787 Austrian Cadastral Records

Balon / Bawon
Bal / Bal'
Bednarz / Bodnar (2 families)
Burdziak / Burdzjak
Butkiewicz / Butkevych
Walach / Valakh (2 families)
Wowk / Vovk
Woroblyk / Worobwyk / Voroblyk (2 families)
Wrobel / Vrobel'
Hawrylyk / Havrylyk
Horbowy / Horbovyj
Demko
Derewenko / Derevenko
Dzwonik / Dzvonyk
Doskocz / Doszkocz / Doskoch
Duda (3 families)
Dziak / Dzjak
Jedynak
Karasz / Karash
Kaczmarski / Kachmars'kyj
Kozubski / Kozubs'kyj
Korytko
Krajowski / Krajovs'kyj
Mielnik / Mel'nyk
Michalow / Mykhaliv
Mospak (2 families)
Pencik / Pentsyk (2 families)
Petrowski / Petrovs'kyj
Podczaszy / Pidchashyj ( 2 families)
Popowyczek / Popovychok (2 families)
Puszyk / Pushyk
Roman (2 families)
Rusnak
Sawka / Sauka / Savka
Swiec / Svits (2 families)
Syreczko / Syrechko
Folwarski / Fol'vars'kyj
Homyk / Homik / Khomyk
Zubak / Chubak
Szpak / Szpiak / Shpak (2 families)
Jadzyn / Jadzyn

Parish Data:

Church was "Saint Nicholas the Miracle Worker erected in 1783 [now destroyed]

Bereska was a large village with more than 1500 inhabitants. During the 1944-1947 expulsions, more than 250 were killed including Rev. Oleksa Bilyk (1892-1944), his wife and son Mychalyo. The Poles killed Rev. Bilyk by driving a wooden wedge into his head. The church was burned to the ground in the 1980's

A masonry church - "Transfiguration of Our Lord" also existed and was erected in 1868, renovated in 1920 and also destroyed.

In 1785 the village lands comprised 12.03 sq.km. There were 360 Greek Catholics 90 Roman Catholics and 30 Jews

1840 - 512 Greek Catholics

1859 - 526 Greek Catholics

1879 - 618 Greek Catholics

1899 - 845 Greek Catholics

1926 - 900 Greek Catholics

1936 - 1007 Greek Catholics

1938 saw 436 Roman Catholics and 63 Jews

The village was not incorporated into the Lemko Apostolic Administration in 1934

LDS microfilm not yet available

Re: Swaczy Surname

Mighthelp — 2013-05-29 15:40:58Z

How unlikely was a woman of Polish origin and a Ukrainian Ruthenian marrying in those days?

The distance between Rohatyn > Ukraine and Radgoszcz > Poland is 195 miles and that is why I am stymied by this marriage.

Maybe your Immigrant Ancestor was a Lemko and you are looking for information on the wrong side of the Polish Ukrainian border ?

Re: Swaczy Surname

gbhgirl — 2013-05-26 21:52:47Z

Hello, Yes. I am certain about Barbara's birthplace - Radgoszcz, Poland. I wrote a letter (using the Google translator) and received a baptism record for my grandmother, Barbara Podoseck. Fortunately for me, several family members have been at this family search for quite a while. My cousin sent me a packet of information in 1998 with many copies of documents. She wrote a letter giving me the facts as she knew them . . . surnames Podoseck and Swaczy, birthdates and places of birth for each family member, immigration dates, citizenship and naturalization dates, etc., etc. Included among the papers was one page from my grandfather Simon's prayer book listing the names and dates of birth for each child. I remembered stories my father told when I was a child and pieced as much together as I could. So, I knew the families whereabouts after they came to the U. S. Consequently, I accessed census records.

How Barbara wound up with Simon is a good question ...maybe love. How unlikely was a woman of Polish origin and a Ukrainian Ruthenian marrying in those days? And, the problem of where to look for records Roman or Orthodox is another. The last three children were born in different villages . . . Oskrzesince, Strzeliska and Brzodowce? Questions there? Radgoszcz is about 300 miles from L'viv (place of birth for ihree sons). Incidentally, there is another son Jan Swaczyi who immigrated here on Jan 03, 1910, on the Barbarossa.

I am back doing Swaczy research after a lengthy break. Working on the maternal line of the family. So, this is where I am. It may be time to think about help. However, I have more info about the other lines family records. So, maybe I'll take a shot first at the FHL for those records. Any comments or suggestions you would have would be greatfly appreciated. Thanks so much for your input.

gbhgirl

Re: Swaczy Surname

Mighthelp — 2013-05-26 20:39:30Z

JI = YI sound
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Bukaczowce had its own GC and RC Parishes.
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Technically Poland did not exist as a geopolitical entity from late 18th century to 1919.
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Micro-ethnic Ruthenian group, Lemko, lived in the historical region called Lemkivszyna. Today that is SE Poland.
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Something doesn't make sense here. How did Barbara land up in Bukachivtsi? What is the family story? Are you sure of this place name?

There are minimally 15 place names called Radgoszcz in Poland. Most are quite a distance from Rohatyn. Look at variant language place names: Rohatyn - Rogatyn - Rogatin.
Immigrants frequently referred to their county center as place of origin, because in most cases their villages were small and this created at least a geographic reference.

PS> As per arrival manifest which lists Barbara, Josef and other two sons, her father-in-law (Semen's Father)was called Roman. They left him in Bukaczowce. The ship's clerk had good handwriting.
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If you don't tackle the metrykal films, you will just continue going around in circles. OR you could hire someone locally to do the work for you. I can always recommend someone, if you like. It isn't as gratifying, but it will certainly answer your questions.

Re: Swaczy Surname

gbhgirl — 2013-05-26 19:03:28Z

Thank you for writing with some new information. I found some info on how to obtain Metrical Records. I don't mind attempting to grapple with the Polish language and Latin, however, grappling with the Cyrillic alphabet might be beyond me. I'm pleased to see the Swaczy surname in Cyrillic though. I do know that my grandfather, Simon returned to Galicia (Bukaczowce) in 1909. Somehow his name was mangled. The first crossing, in 1906, shows his name on the manifest as Simon Swaczy but, on the Ellis Island site, it is Szymon Swaczyji (what does the "ji" mean?. His wife, Barbara and sons came to the US in November 1910. On the original manifest, his ethnicity is Ruthenian and place of birth is Bukaczowce. His wife, Barbara was from Radgoszcz, Poland. The sons and Simon adopted their mother's ethnicity upon arrival. I've grappled with his ethnicity over this past year. Also, my brother had a Y-chromosome test. The results appears to indicate that he is Ukrainian or Polish. Some suggest Lemko. I doubt he would have practiced the Orthodox Catholic religion, if he were Polish. My mother told me several times that my father insisted Simon was Orthodox. Is it true that there was no Roman Catholic Church in Bukaczowce during the period 1850-1910? Thanks, again for the information.
gbhgirl

Re: Swaczy Surname

Mighthelp — 2013-05-26 17:08:30Z

Swaczy, likely originally Свачій in Ukrainian = Swachij (pronounced SWA-CHEE) is rooted in old Eastern Slavic for IN-LAW. Technically it translates into BELONGING TO IN-LAW.
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Name: Semen Swaczij
[Simon Swaczy]
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1909
Birth Date: abt 1870
Birth Location: Austria (came from Historic Galicia Province)
Birth Location Other: bukarzowah (Bukaczowce poorly transliterated, sounds-like)
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Polish
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Mauretania
Search Ship Database: Search the Mauretania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
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Manifest lists his wife as Barbara (could have originally been Warwara). Notice this is 1909 and technically there was no such geopolitical entity as Poland in this time frame, but he is listed as ethnically Polish???
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?rank=1&new=1&...

Photos of/from selo/village Букачівці (Bukachivtsi)> Rohatyn(skij) raion/district> Ivano-Frankivska (formerly Stanislawow) oblast/region > Ukraine, latest zip 77065-67. Population 1,500+.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%91%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%...
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I suspect there may have been an interfaith marriage here, and you may well have to research both GC and RC Church Registers???
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results#count=20&...

If someone else has not already posted following for you. This is an exc resource for anyone researching their Galician roots: http://www.halgal.com/vitalrecords.html
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There are still Swachij living in selo Bukachivtsi.
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Short read may be generally helpful:
http://www.infoukes.com/genealogy/tracz/baba.html

Re: Swaczy Surname

gbhgirl — 2013-05-26 13:52:38Z

Hello, I want to followup on my Swaczy (Polish) Svatchi ancestors. About a year ago, I posted on this surname. Also, I searched the Ellis Island site and found about 10 Swaczys and a few others with a spelling close to this name. Almost all were from Bukaczowce Ukraine. Hoever, a closer inspection shows that these people were born in villages nearby i.e., Kolokolin, Czernew and Sloboda - to name three - most were in Rohatyn. I believe the Swaczys may have been a family or clan. Reading the manifests was difficult but, I learned that most were Ruthenians as was my Grandfather Szymon Swaczy. If there are any comments, I would appreciate hearing from you. And, are there any Swaczys or Svatchis living in Bukachevtsi? Thanks.
gbhgirl

Re: Strilyska Stari

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-05-23 20:35:56Z

and you have helped me find some very valuable information
for which I am incredibly grateful!!!

Re: Strilyska Stari

Mighthelp — 2013-05-23 19:44:46Z

I am glad for your explanation and I am more than happy to help in any way I can.

Re: Strilyska Stari

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-05-23 19:25:27Z

I do not know what to say.
I just want to find information for my family and fellow
people from the Lemko ancestry. It is sometimes difficult to
navigate the Polish system of archive church records.
The rest is about my in laws.from Ukraine.
It is only after the fact that I am not getting anywhere that I turn to Ancestry site.
I am doing this for the whole family so that there
will not be lots of people asking the same questions
In turn,I have helped people through the message boards and I hope that someone will see my name in the future and write to me.
I will continue to search and if you do not want to respond then it is up to you.
I am the spokesperson for the family.

Re: Strilyska Stari

Mighthelp — 2013-05-23 17:45:25Z

If you don't think that you are doing anything wrong, there is no reason to feel uncomfortable. If you are charging for information you getting here, then you are helping yourself and not the people you claim to be helping. I have encountered this sort of thing in the past and that is why I asked.

Re: Strilyska Stari

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-05-23 16:24:19Z

Now I feel uncomfortable posting questions.

Re: Strilyska Stari

Mighthelp — 2013-05-20 02:24:28Z

I was curious. I think if Zlateca and I were asking these types of questions over and over again and you were providing the answers, you might be as well.

Re: Strilyska Stari

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-05-19 07:23:20Z

Many many thanks!!!
The reason I search is because I am searching for family!
and helping others.
I am not sure why this matters.

Re: L~onie and Gologory

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-18 23:54:06Z

Mikolandza, Iwan Lonia, Austria 18 1894 1912
Mikolandza, Katarzyna Lonia, Austria 22 1890 1912
Makolondra, Nascia Lonia, Austria 17 1897 1914
Makoladro, Hrynko Lanie, Austria 24 1885 1909
Makolandra, Anna Lanie, Austria 18 1891 1909
Dubas, Ann...tsa Gologosy, Galicy 17 1892 1909
Dubas, Dmytro Gologory, Austria 24 1888 1912
Dubas, Hanka Galvgcy, Austria 20 1892 1912
Dubas, Howa Gologory, Austria 18 1892 1910
Dubas, Hoyuko Gologory, Austria 18 1892 1910
Dubas, Iwan Gocgory, Galicia 27 1884 1911
Dubas, Johann Gologory, Austria 30 1882 1912
Dubas, Kaska Lonia, Austria 18 1896 1914
Dubas, Kateryna Gologory, Galicia 17 1897 1914
Dubas, Ksenka Gologory, Galicia 20 1892 1912
Dubas, Michal Gologary, Austria 39 1870 1909
Dubas, Paranka Gologzy, Galicy 35 1874 1909
Dubas, Paroska Gologosg, Galicia 24 1888 1912
Dubas, Paska Gologorg, Austria 17 1894 1911
Dubas, Teodor Gologorky, Galicy 35 1872 1907
Dubas, Wasyl Gologzy, Galicy 35 1874 1909
Dubas, Wasyl Gologory 27 1880 1907
Maturjkow, Dmytro Lanie, Austria 30 1879 1909
Maturjkow, Tekla Lanie, Austria 19 1890 1909
Yacyszyu, Mikolaj Lonia, Austria 36 1876 1912[JACZYSZYN]
Szkornda, Michal Lonie, Austria 41 1870 1911 [SZKORUDA]
Szkornda, Michal Lonie, Austria 9 1902 1911
Szkornda, Nykola Lonie, Austria 11 1900 1911

source: www.ellisislandrecords.org
I like using one step/gold form www.stevemorse.org One tends to see misspellings of a name and location and come up with a proper spelling.

www.halgal.com
www.familysearch.org
http://genforum.com

Gologory, Gologury populated place
49°45' N 24°43' E

E M U G

Ukraine
261.2 miles W of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/42-50.jpg
right side of the map by by word Galizien below small 50

http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100
http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/A49_B39_(Z6_Kol.XXXI)_BUSK-... GOLOGORY bottom of the map; inward from right corner;
http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/P50_S39_PRZEMYSLANY.jpg
L~ONIE top of the map down from large 92;

to hear pronunciation http://ivona.com Łonie
to translit: http://ua.translit.cc/

distribution of some of the above mentioned surnames in Poland: http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/szkoruda.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/jaczyszyn.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/makolondra.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/tremba.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/dubas.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/krzywa.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/tkaczyk.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/lewiniec.html
map of Poland's wojewodztwos:
http://www.geneteka.genealodzy.pl/

Re: Strilyska Stari

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-18 22:22:33Z

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/42-50.jpg
bottom of the map; to the right of large 42 is Strzeliska Stare and Strzeliska Nowe.

http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/P50_S39_PRZEMYSLANY.jpg
bottom left corner; Stare Strzeliska and Nowe Strzeliska;

Re: Bilik

Mighthelp — 2013-05-18 18:15:15Z

Currently there are 88 Bilik = Билик listed in Lviv Telephone Directory.

Re: Strilyska Stari

Mighthelp — 2013-05-18 17:58:13Z

STRZELISKE STARE > Bobrka > Lviv. Filial GC parish was in Stzeliske Nowe. (as per Lenius' Gazetteer)
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Today Old and New are clustered together.
http://foto-planeta.com/ua/np/24875/stari-strilishcha.html

Старі Стрілища — село в Україні, Жидачівському районі Львівської області.
http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%96_...

Нові Стрілища - селище міського типу Жидачівського району Львівської області
http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%96_%D0%A1...

What is especially interesting about this village cluster are the UPA (Ukrainian Freedom Fighters) during WW2. Since you are Ukrainian literate, you will find loads of info.
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LDS Films: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/1454025
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PS> Diane, you seem to be researching many villages. Are you doing this for commercial purposes?

Strilyska Stari

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-05-17 17:35:49Z

I am not finding any information about this village from
where family is origin.
Please if anyone has any information please write!

Re: Turka

materrra — 2013-04-18 15:55:16Z

Hi dcole5711,

I live about 200km from Turka.
Please, find our more at west-ukraine-tours.com

Regards,
Andriy

Lonia (Lonie, Loni) and Gologory (Holohory) to Chicago 1904-1914

katiefilipczak — 2013-04-15 22:39:15Z

Between 1904 and 1914, over 50 people from Lonia and a few relatives from Gologory immigrated to Chicago. Lonia (Lonie/Loni) and Gologory (Holohory) are villages between Lviv (Lwow, Lemburg) and Tarnopol (Ternopil). Before WWI, they were part of the Austrian Empire. Between the wars, they were in Poland, and now they are in Ukraine. The people are Ukrainians. Members the same families are sometimes recorded in passenger records as Ruthenian, and sometimes Polish, so this shouldnʼt be seen as a significant marker of ethnicity. There seems to have been a large Jewish migration from Lonia to the United States before 1904, but it doesnʼt appear to have any connection with the Chicago group.

Every male immigrant from Lonia is listed as a laborer or farm laborer, and every female immigrant is listed as a maid or domestic servant.

The first members of the Chicago group actually went to Philadelphia. In May of 1905, Stefan Lukasz (Szczepan Lukaszow) and Iwan (John) Tremba arrived at Ellis Island on the Armenia. These men were married laborers in their early 30s. They were headed for Philadelphia to find Szymon (Simon, Sam, Semko) Sobeczko. Simon Sobeczko was Lukaszʻ brother-in-law and Trembaʼs friend.

Two years later, in April 1907, another group of men from Lonia came over on the Batavia. Michal Bialowicki (Belubasy? Bilawacka?) was the oldest at 39 and the only married one. Peter (Piotr) Sobeczko, Simonʼs brother was only 18. The rest, Tomasz Lewiniec, Frank Lukasz (Franko Lukaszow), Hrynko Sawicki, and Wasyl Dubas were in their twenties. Dubas was the only one who went to Philadelphia to find a Maturjko whose first name I canʼt decipher. The rest headed for 91 Ontario Street in Chicago where Stefan Lukasz and Simon Sobeczko were now living. Sawicki was the brother- in-law of the Sobeczko brothers, and was also connected to the Lukasz brothers through the Makolondra family still in Lonia.

Two years later, in May of 1909, the Pennsylvania brought 16 more Lonia people to Ellis Island. All were headed for Chicago. These were all men in their twenties and thirties except for two teenage sisters, Anna Makolondra and Tekla Makolondra Maturjko, who came over with Teklaʼs husband Dmytro Maturjko. Anna and Teklaʼs father back in Lonia was Hrynko Makolondra. There was a man named Hrynko Makolondra aboard the ship, but he was only 24. His father back in Lonia was Feodor. This Hrynko (also called Harry) was to meet his cousin Hrynko Sawicki who was now living on Green Street with Peter Sobeczko, Frank Lukasz, and Tomasz Lewiniec. The Green Street house was also the destination of Anna, Tekla, and Dmytro, as well as Pawel Sawicki (Hrynkoʼs brother), Michal Nadzberny and Iwan Salabaj (the Sawickisʼ brother-in-laws), and Jan Zanier (a Sobeczko cousin). Mytro Hadkj went to the same address to find his brother Tomasz Lewiniec along with their friend Petro Glusko. Oleksa Irema, Dmytro Kulik, and Oleksa Tkaczyk went to find Frank Lukasz at the old 91 Ontario address. Petro Malicki and Stefan Haraszniak also went to Ontario St. to find Michal Bialowicki, and Michal Szkoruda went there to find Wasyl Dubas (now in Chicago).

At some point around this time, Jan (John) Lukasz, Marya Tkaczyk, and Peter Szkoruda (Michalʼs brother) came to Chicago and joined this growing Lonia community in America. Jan left his wife Anastasia Makolondra Lukasz behind.
In February 1910, Manka Dup, and Paul Tkaczyk came to meet their sister Marya who was living at Green Street with Frank Lukasz and Wasyl Dubas. They brought their friend Jeko Obrimbalski. Michal Sopko came alone the next month, planning to meet up with his brother-in-law Iwan Tremba.

In 1911, Michal Szkoruda returned to Lonia and brought back his sons Michal (9) and Nykola (11), as well as his teenage cousins Magda Sawicka (sister of Hrynko and Pawel) and Paska Dubas. The new destination was 644 Austin Street, where the Szkorudas, Tomasz Lewiniec, and Simon Sobeczko were now living.

In March of 1912, another wave came from Havre, France aboard the Espagne. Mikolaj Jaczyszyn left his wife behind to join his cousin (Tom Lewiniec) in America. So did Pawlo Goj and Jozef Nowak, who met up at Austin Street with their brother-in-law Simon Sobeczko. Matrina Dubas found her brother Wasyl, and Anastasia (Nascia) Malicka came to find her cousin Anna Makolondra.

18-year old Iwan (John) Makolondra and his older sister Katarzyna were also on board. Their father was Fechko (Feodor)--the father of the Hrynko (Harry) Makolondra who had come over in 1909. Iwan met up with his brother-in-law John Lukasz and Katarzyna her uncle Simon Sobeczko.

Two months later, 16-year old Wojciech Lukasz(ow) crossed over alone. He was the brother of Stefan, Frank, and John Lukasz. He would later marry Julia Makolondra, the sister of Harry, Katarzyna, Anastasia (brother Johnʼs wife), and Iwan. Wojciech and Julia had a daughter, Paravia. Wojciech seems to have left the United States, but later came back and settled in Canada.

In 1914, Peter Sobeczko and John Lukasz returned to Lonia to bring back Johnʼs wife Anastasia (leaving their young daughter Mary behind) and four teenage girls: Teofila Krzywa (cousin of Anastasia Malicka), Hanka Sawicka (sister of Magda, Pawel, and Hyrnko), Kaska Dubas (sister of Matrina and Wasyl), and 17-year old Nascia Makolondra, who it seems had the same name as her older sister Anastasia Lukasz. This younger Nascia, who later married Wasyl Turczak, was connected to the Sawickis.

Over the next ten years a few more Lonia residents came to Chicago, but nothing like this wave from 1904-1914. Pawel Sawicki ended up marrying Anna Makolondra, Peter Sobeczko married Anna Sopko, and Frank Lukasz married Mary Dubas.

Of the Makolondras, it appears that Hrynko, Katarzyna, Anastasia (elder), Iwan, Julia, and Anastasia (younger) were all siblings, the children of Feodor and Parashka Makolondra of Lonia. Anna and Tekla, daughters of Hrynko were likely cousins. The Makolondras were related and closely tied to the Lukasz(ow), Sawicki, and Sobeczko
families. The monkey wrench is that Katarzyna listed her mother as “Anna Nowak”, and Anastasia the younger listed hers as “Maryska Makolondra.” If they were full sisters of Iwan (John), their mother should have been Parashka Konaba Makolondra.

If you have information about any of these people, I'm interested. I am especially interested in the Makolondra and Lukasz families. I can't promise all of this information is 100% accurate--especially spellings. It can be hard to read the handwriting on some of the passenger lists.

majkowicz/maykowicz/mikowitz

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-04-12 19:00:46Z

Where are all the Maykowicz from Czystohorb?

Re: Bilik

chefchef_9 — 2013-04-08 21:39:30Z

Hello Andy. You have not been answering my messages on facebook. I hope all is well with you. Do you remember me from Rome, Italy? I would appreciate a response from you. Thanks, Isaac

Re: Bilik

chefchef_9 — 2013-04-08 21:39:09Z

Hello Andy. You have not been answering my messages on facebook. I hope all is well with you. Do you remember me from Rome, Italy? I would appreciate a response from you. Thanks, Isaac

Turka

dcole5711 — 2013-04-07 08:05:16Z

Does anyone here live near Turka?

Re: Kudrynce, Zawale

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-07 00:45:29Z

Thank you Janet_H16

http://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/LocTown.asp
Berchev, Bershchev, Borshchev, Borshchov, Borshchuv, Borszczów, Borshchiv populated place
48°48' N 26°03' E
E M U G
Ukraine
229.4 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E
http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/A53_B42_BORSZCZOW.jpg
bottom of the map upward with 260 260 290 280 to BORSZCZOW;

Kudrintsy, Kudryntsi populated place
49°23' N 26°46' E
E M U G
Ukraine
181.8 miles WSW of Kyyiv 50°26' N 30°31' E

http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/P54_S42_MIELNICA.jpg right side margin right by the line KUDRYNCE; ZAWALE is right by Kudrynce

Re: Zwarich, NAME CHANGE ( Zwarych to Zwarich )

Janet_H16 — 2013-04-07 00:11:15Z

I have this info. on my father that mom put on the back of their portrait.

Province: Borschiw
P.O. Kudrence
Village: Zawalia

Thanks for the information you provided .. it has been most helpful.

A thought just flashed back that my dad was given a quarter section of free land by the Cdn. government being one reason why he immigrated. Re any documents, his house burned down years later and it is possible all documents were destroyed which I why I cannot and did not find anything in his estate after he passed away. There was absolutely no evidence of his immigration.

His homestead was in Kilkenny, Manitoba - twp. Fisher Branch which was a nearby town approx. 10 miles.

Re: ZWARYCZ

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-06 23:48:50Z

to translit ZWARYCZ into Cyrillic try http://ua.translit.cc/

www.torugg.org
www.infoukes.com/genealogy
www.halgal.com
www.kresy.co.uk/galicja.html
http://genforum.com

I don't have a subscription to Ancestry so picking only free stuff from the internet:
Zwarycz, Iw... Hluboczek, Galicia 23 1890 1913
Zwarycz, Iwan Bogdanowka 16 1891 1907
Zwarycz, Iwan Ostapie 25 1878 1903
Zwaricz, Hyre Wolcia, Austria 19 1891 1910
Zwaricz, JAN HUTA, GALICIA 20 1890 1910
Zworycz, Iwan Rykow 18 1889 1907
Zworycz, Piotr Bitkowce, Austria 46 1868 1914

Does not matter what country ones research is, it is the same LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION that is needed to start the research.

Re: Zwarich, NAME CHANGE ( Zwarych to Zwarich )

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-06 23:39:24Z

Hi

Up to 1918 it was http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm
http://brainworker.ch/Oesterreich/Austria-hungary.png where 12 different languages were spoken.

Your ancestor was from historical region Galicia which Austria ruled #6 on the map.
http://www.e-targ.org/Maps/galiciamap.html

It is all in pronunciation ZWARYCZ. That is the spelling that your father came from Galicia. The manifests were written at the port of departure from a document that our ancestor presented to the shipping clerk. I would say 99.9% that is the spelling.
Please give me the name of a place of birth for your father.
Do read: http://www.infoukes.com/genealogy/tracz/baba.html

Please click on my name to see my posting history.
Family went to family. It is possible that some ZWARYCZs might come first to America and then go up North to Canada.
Zlatica USA

Re: Zwarich, NAME CHANGE ( Zwarych to Zwarich )

Janet_H16 — 2013-04-06 23:34:15Z

My father lived in Galicia .. believe he was Austrian or Austrian/Ukrainian. He immigrated to Canada in 1914 landing in Quebec. Quebecers at that time spoke little English & could read even less & still do. His father Johan was a prisoner of war in Russia. He did tell me when I was little and inquisitive that the family name was changed and originally had a "Z" in the beginning and ended with the same letter. All current canadian documentation shows Zwarych and sometimes Zwarich. I recall he did not like talking about himself other than he had left two older twin sisters behind. He did speak & read in Ukrainian but also spoke another language which my mother said was Austrian. My father had blonde curly hair, blue eyes, his younger brother had black curly hair & brown eyes. My dad was fair skinned and the brother was dark skinned.

I basically am still digging for the correct spelling of his name. I determined the current spelling from a ship's manifest in 1914 that arrived in Quebec from Galicia as what that country was known as. It was under control of several countries including Russia until it became known as Ukraine. I did discover that Galicia was taken over by Poland before it became under Russian control.

I do not recall there were any relatives in the U.S. so we must be from a different branch or line.

Re: Zwarich, NAME CHANGE ( Zwarych to Zwarich )

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-06 22:02:23Z

No immigration officer changed the spelling of our ancestor's surname being that the manifests were written at the port of departure. Yes, some spelling and transcribing errors did occur there. Your ancestor most likely changed the spelling so as the pronunciation would be similar to "old country".
Is your father's surname on the arrival manifest written as ZWARICH or ZWARYCZ? Technically it is all about LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION when it comes to research.

If your ancestor was Ruthenian/Rusyn maybe he was Iwan/Ivan as Johann seems more German spelling.

take a listen to the surname ZWARYCZ and ZWARYCH in http://ivona.com.

About 64 ZWARYCZs came to America thru NY Ellis Island.
www.ellisislandrecords.org

ZWARYCZs in Poland:
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/zwarycz.html

Re: Swaczy Surname

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-06 21:46:22Z

Welcome back Barbara

did you look in www.familysearch.org
Bukaczowce is old Polish name.
http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100
http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/P51_S39_ROHATYN.jpg bottom of the map by large 84
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/42-49.jpg right side margin word Galizien with line going thru; pass Bursztyn is BUKACZOWCE.

Re: Swaczy Surname

gbhgirl — 2013-04-06 21:19:42Z

Hello, I'm back after a long recess although I have continued to study the Swaczy surname and Bukaczowce, Austria. I recently went through the immigration records for every Swaczy I could locate on Ancestry and Ellis island. I looked at residences and birthplaces and for any info I could glean from each manifest. I'm convinced they are almost all related. Names of villages near Bukaczowce popped up. It takes a long time to learn the geography of this area but, I believe I have it. Now, the challence is to look for old vital or census records. Any suggestions or thoughts. The Halgal site have a village finder of sorts. When I type in Bukaczowce or any other village/town name I receive 500 server error message.

Is Bukaczowce in any late 1800-early 1900s census records? I appreciate the links you have sent especially for old maps. Great help.

Thanks.

Barbara

Re: Zwarich, NAME CHANGE ( Zwarych to Zwarich )????

Janet_H16 — 2013-04-04 22:11:03Z

My surname was Zwarych and sometimes spelled as Zwarich. My mother's name was Anna. However, on doing research on my father I discovered that in fact when he immigrated to Canada the name was changed by the immigration officer from Zwarycz to Zwarych. My father who was known as John, is actually Johann .. He married my mother Anna. If you feel I can be of any help from the research I did, please contact me at the email address given. Be sure to reference the subject so I would recognize the email and that it does not end up in the spam box. Thanks.

Lunio and Chudoba Surnames

yonajimmy — 2013-04-02 08:40:57Z

My grandfather's name was Michael Lunio. He was born in 1903, and passed away in 1986. He is buried in Turtleford, Saskatchewan, Canada. My father says he had a cousin named Mike (or Michael) Chudoba that lived in Slave Lake, Alberta, Canada (or Peace River, Alberta, Canada...can't exactly pinpoint).

Re: Rozlucz, Turka, Sambor area

Mighthelp — 2013-04-01 19:50:37Z

Joseph Walter (dob 1870) & wife, Rose Essig, from Rozlucz were very likely Austrian German Catholic. The filial RC Parish was in Turka. LDS has not filmed RC Church Registers. I did check Lubaczow Diocese > AGAD (Poland) and found no copy of Turka RC Registers, although they do have a copy of GC records.

According to following map both Rozlucz and Borynia (indicated by FILLED IN BLACK CIRCLES), that Austrian German Catholics attended the Polish RC Church in Turka.
http://www.galiziengermandescendants.org/Data/galicia_map_ea...
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Lviv Historical Archives or Turka RAHS/РАЦС ????

Email Diana Pelts, Director, and ask whether they have the RC Records for Turka or might they still be in Turka District Archives. Once you ascertain where they are located, you can aways hire a local to do the research on your behalf. That is cheaper than having archives do the research for you.

Central State Historical Archives of Ukraine in Lviv
3a Soborna sq., 79008 Lviv
Tel.: +380 (32) 235-45-08

E-mail: office@cdial.org.ua
Director: Pelts Diana
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РАЦС Турківського районного управління юстиції
пл.Ринок, 11
м.Турка
Львівська область 82500
УКРАЇНА - UKRAINE
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Austria-Hungary was a multi-national empire created by the Ausgleich or compromise of 1867. Before 1867 the Empire had been dominated by the Austrian Germans. After defeat in the
Seven Weeks War the Germans were forced to share power with the other major group in the Empire, the Hungarians. 90% of the population of the Austrian half of the Empire was Catholic.

In the Austrian half of the Empire, the power of parliament was restricted by the fact that the government was responsible to the Emperor. He also had control of foreign affairs. The parliament was elected on a limited franchise.

The Austrians made attempts to give their subject nationalities a share in the government of their half of the empire. The peoples controlled by the Austrians were the Poles (who received better treatment than in either Russia or Germany), the Czechs, the Slovenes, the Ruthenians and the Italians.

The problem for the government was that when it introduced reforms to improve minority language or cultural rights, it drew opposition from the Germans and vice versa. This made reform very difficult. There was also a movement among many Germans that wanted to see the creation of a Greater Germany.

In 18th century Austria and Prussia were Germanic States. Germany and Austria as we know today were very different places 200 yrs ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18th_century_history_of_Germany

Re: Rozlucz, Turka, Sambor area

JudithWalter1943 — 2013-04-01 15:46:50Z

My husbands family is from Rozlucz Ukraine. Name is Joseph Walter born about 1870 in Rozluch, Wife Rose Essig or Esseck also of Rozlucz or Rozluch, Please contact me. I have list of many offspring of son, Lawrence Walter. 385 259-0794

Re: Looking For Ukrainian Family Tree in

damarucco — 2013-03-04 22:07:48Z

Eric, My great uncle Stephen Korolewiat anglicized to Corey married Catherine Hryckowian she was the widow of Metro Barron. Also in western PA at that time was Andrew Hryckowian Married to Mary Poponick. They were all from Bereska, Galicia. Write me and we can discuss more

Re: WOLF & WEINTRAUB

mdbourque — 2013-03-01 04:43:41Z

Hello Rose,
Researching for the Helfgott-Weintraub families. Joan Annie Weintraub (b.08Apr1936)-Brooklyn,NY(parents Gertrude I. Greenburg & Saul Weintraub) married Theodore "Ted" Helgott (b.02Feb 1933)-Brooklyn, NY(parents Bertha "Birdie" Kirschner & Solomon Helfgott). Saul Weintraub (b. 1900)-Brooklyn, NY (parents Solomon Weintraub (b.1878)-Galicia, Poland & Rebecca(b.1880)-near Krakow, Poland). Father of Solomon is Moses Weintraub (b. abt 1850)-Resnitow, Galicia, Poland. Is there a possibility your Max or Moses Weintraub is of same family?

Re: Relatives in Daleshowa

barrynv — 2013-02-27 19:11:08Z

Mary Tymryk was my Baba Lutsyk's (Lutsick)sister. 3 Tymryk sisters: Parasak (my Baba) marreid Dymetro Lutsyk; Anna Tymryk married Steve Dashuk and Mary Tymryk married Pete Krutz (Kruc); Mary Tymryk's 3 brothers; one married Katherine ??,John married Polahna, I think in Mecado; they had three children (Maria, Anna and Nykola/Nick) and there was a 3rd brother.

They all settled 1911 in the Endeavor area of Saskatchewan

Re: Surname Leszczyszyn?

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-04 22:44:53Z

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.spiwak/1/mb.ashx

You're welcome.
Zlatica

Re: Surname Leszczyszyn?

greyeyedvirgo — 2013-02-04 22:35:53Z

So so true on the transcription issue! Wow I've seen some horrible outcomes with my family's documents and Spiwak only has 6 letters.

Re: Looking for Grandmothers Family (Kozawa,Kozowa,Panywyk)

panylyk1 — 2013-02-04 06:48:33Z

I don't know how you went with this enquiry. My maiden name is Panylyk and my father came from Malniew. He was born in 1920 to a large family - and had a sister called Parascevia (or similar in English alphabet). It won't be yours - born too late BUT it was a family name and both his father and paternal grandfather had multiple sisters. I have some church records (in Ukrainian) which I unfortunately cannot read. Happy to share.

Re: Surname Leszczyszyn?

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-03 15:53:16Z

You're welcome Christina.
I don't think its the spelling more like transcribing in USA as well as shipping clerks handwriting on some the manifests questionable.

Re: Surname Leszczyszyn?

greyeyedvirgo — 2013-02-03 15:45:04Z

As always you pull great information. :) Thank you!!!

I knew about the first two. Marya is my g. grandma and Rozalia her sister..

But these others I hadn't gotten around to finding yet. Got to love how no one could seem to spell the surname the same way.

Re: Surname Leszczyszyn?

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-03 15:37:50Z

Hi Christina

Leszczyszyn, Marya Pohorce, Austria 18 1895 1913
Leszczyszyn, Rozalia Pohorce, Austria 18 1893 1911
Luczyszyn, Tomasz Pohorce 36 1871 1907
Luozyszyn, Tomasz Pohorce, Austria 39 1870 1909
Luszesna, Katanyna Pohorce, Aust. 31 1882 1913[incorrect NY EI manifest comes up for her]

Lcszczyszyn, Ruasta...ya Luszycz, Austria 24 1889 1913
Lcszczyszyn, Wasko Luszycz, Austria 16 1897 1913
Leczyszczyn, Michal Telaho, Austria 49 1861 1910
Lesczyszzn, Syman Loroka, Austria 26 1887 1913

In Poland:
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/leszczyszyn.html
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/%25C5%2582eszczyszyn....

Re: Surname Leszczyszyn?

greyeyedvirgo — 2013-02-03 14:28:29Z

Sooooo... there have been some interesting changes to my search. I have a proper spelling - LESZCZYSZN - (this is at least the spelling used on the ship manifest) and she did come from Pohorce, Austria - today's Pohirtsi, L'vivska Oblast, Ukraine...

It seems she had a sister Rozalia, a brother in law (maybe brother), Anton, and maybe a sister Anna, too.

I can't seem to find info on Anna though... but Anna was my great grandfather's second wife who was supposedly Marya's sister...

Anyone have any info on how to get documents from Pohorce/Pohirtsi, Ukraine?

Re: Searching for Kalitas in present day Lviv & Russia

squeekmonster317 — 2013-01-30 20:44:58Z

Thanks for the kind offer to translate Andriy but I already have sent them out & have gotten 2 out of 3 back already.

Mark