hi,alison,i do not know,where to start answering-fierst of all,i do not know the names of my great grandparents-my mother and grandmother,like so many poeple with that trauma,never spoke about this period in their lives-they all passed away a long time ago-now my brother and me are trieing to put the puzzle together-have you ever checked odessa3.org-in the past years these poeple indexed a lot of documents out of that time-in their war documents are at least 30-40 gutwins-all out of that area-we just cannot link the names with the genarations and the families yet-but they all seem related-but i also can try to send you a list of these names-are you still living in russia-i have not seen the name martin in these lists-but anna gutwin is there several times in different generations-the name frederick might be the german name friedrich-all these poeple had the same first names and surnames-that makes it so hard to sort it out-maybe you want to look it up first and we talk again-it would be nice,to find something out-greetings karin