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Re: Joseph C. Pivk

bjmyers2 — 2009-11-08 05:21:08Z

Hi, my name is Barbara Myers. I am the granddaughter of Joseph Pivk of cleveland, Ohio. My father was Arnold Pivk who had a brother Henry. My grandmother was Alma. My grandfather died in January, 1963 or maybe 1962. I knew nothing of his relatives in Yugoslavia. I only know he came over to the US when he was in his early twenties. He was a wonderful man with a wonderful laugh!!

Re: discesearchive

meksmk1 — 2009-11-07 20:34:34Z

Well. My Uncle said outside of Skofijica in a small village. You can see it on the map just to the SW of Ljubljana. http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/places/maps/map_country...

And he told my Uncle it was in "Blato." So if you zoom in on the map around Skofijica, it could be Gorenje Blato or Podblato?

Michael Kotchevar

Re: Dead End

meksmk1 — 2009-11-07 20:22:49Z

Oh My! What a wonderful collection of sites. This will give me some work to do! Thanks! You're really been helpful. Now to get some work started....

Michael Kotchevar

Re: discesearchive

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 18:59:59Z

a question:
"He actually was born in a village outside of Skofljica"
do you mean Skofja Loka?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0kofja_Loka
http://www.randburg.com/si/skloka.html
http://www.galenfrysinger.com/slovenia_skofja_loka.htm
http://www.slovenia.info/?_ctg_kraji=2747
http://www.justslovenia.co.uk/history_1.html

discesearchive

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 18:47:22Z

i sent the link as the e-mail-adress is there. :o)

Re: Dead End

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 18:45:27Z

i wonder that the discese-site is not also in english, slovenians normally fluent in english. :o)

genealogy-site:
http://www2.arnes.si/~rzjtopl/rod/rod-an.htm
http://www2.arnes.si/~rzjtopl/rod/drustvo/predst-an.htm

other discese-archives
Maribor/Marburg:
http://www.culturalprofiles.net/slovenia/units/4932.html
Koper: http://kp.rkc.si/arhiv/

history of Carniola/Krain:
http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/germany/xcarniola.html

search-posibilities Slovenia:
http://www.ihff.at/IHFF_Sloweniene.htm
http://www.ihff.at/

list of places with their german and slovenian name:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutscher_Bezeichnungen_s...

Ribnica na Pohorju

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 17:19:56Z

the german name of the place was "Reifing am Bachern" at austrian times.

Re: Dead End

meksmk1 — 2009-11-07 17:03:57Z

Thank you. I'm a little lost since I can't speak or read Slovenian. But, it's a start. I'm assuming this is the Arch Diocese website that the previous poster mentioned. I guess the bigger question is do Slovenians do much geneology work? I can't seem to find many that have posted family trees.

Anyway. Thanks for the site.

Michael Kotchevar

Re: Dead End

meksmk1 — 2009-11-07 16:54:45Z

Hi L.S.

Well I looked at my notes closer. He actually was born in a village outside of Skofljica. I guess as late as the early 1980's the house was still standing. My Uncle actually saw it when he traveled there. Maybe it was Gorenje Blato?

Michael Kotchevar

Re: Ribnica na Pohorju- Family castle found again

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 16:45:05Z

you are looking for a "Villa" Uran or Uranova ? the ending -ova would not be slovenian, this is from Czech Republic (Bohemia) and Slovakia.
in any case a Villa is never a castle!
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa
pictures of some Villen:
http://www.dobre-gostilne.si/de/vila-herberstein/
http://www.berlin.de/orte/museum/liebermann-villa-am-wannsee...
http://www.rund-um-rosenheim.de/tha_lehrervilla2008.jpg
http://www.ferienhausmiete.de/ferienhaus_details.php?obj_nr=...
http://www.staedte-fotos.de/name/einzelbild/number/13622/kat...

some old Villen at the Wörthersee(lake) in Carinthia, Austria, next to Slovenia. often homes built or buyed from people for their holidays, some of nobility in time of austrian-hungarian empire or rich people like merchants or so - this Villen often looking like small castles but not any connection to a real castle, but some times called Schlössl which is normally a small castle:
http://www.woerthersee-architektur.at/?P%F6rtschach
in any case as Krain (now Slovenia) was austrian also there often such Villen to find.

real castles (Schloss and Burg)are:
http://www.schloss-tratzberg.at/
http://www.festung.kufstein.at/
http://www.viaimperialis.at/index.php?lang=en

Re: Dead End

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 15:17:59Z

discesearchive Ljubljana:
http://lj.rkc.si/?id=11&fmod=2

Re: TOMEC from Doblice

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 15:11:21Z

discesearchive Ljubljana:
http://lj.rkc.si/?id=11&fmod=2

Bovec

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 15:08:39Z

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovec
Soca-valley - a wonderful place :http://images.google.at/images?hl=de&client=firefox-a&am...
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Slovenia/West/Gorenj...
http://www2.arnes.si/~osljvodm2s/soca/uvod1.htm
http://www.justslovenia.co.uk/region_soca.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So%C4%8Da

Re: Looking for Relativs to Andreas Hoznar & Caroline Gmainer

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-07 14:59:30Z

both familynames are of german orgin and in slavic countries came about german settlements.
austrian phonebook has 88 hits for Gmainer, most of them with
40 hits in Upper-Austria.
the name Gmeiner has 906 hits and most to find with 419 in Vorarlberg in austrians west.
for Hosner 129 hits most in Upper-Austria.
www.herold.at

so the orgin maybe was Upper-Austria:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Austria

Re: Looking for Relativs to Andreas Hoznar & Caroline Gmainer

2001rob — 2009-11-07 11:29:47Z

Thank you very much for your reply, I will give it a try.
I guess best, would be to send a letter.
Rgds
Rob

Re: TOMEC from Doblice

gthompso44 — 2009-11-07 11:01:33Z

Finding someone that would do the same line of ancestors as you are is quite a search for a needle in the hay, although it can happen...
But while you are waiting for this, I would suggest you research Crnomelj's parish vital books. They are in Ljubljana's Archdiocese archive in Ljubljana. They range from 1753- 1901.
If you need any other help, please contact me.

Good luck!
L.S.

www.sambunjak.com
www.croatian-genealogy.com

Re: Looking for Relativs to Andreas Hoznar & Caroline Gmainer

gthompso44 — 2009-11-07 10:54:29Z

Surname of Hosner is pretty common in north/west Slovenia, while Gmajner appears more in eastern Slovenia. Well, at least today that is.
If you want to find living relatives, then I would suggest contacting Hosner's that are listed in the Slovenian phone book (www.tis.telekom.si), but according to the birth year of your granmother (1911) I am not sure you would find anyone that could remember her.
Contacting Parish office in Bovec might give you more informations (Župnija Bovec, Trg golobarskih žrtev 10, 5230 Bovec, tel. +386 5 388 6090) about Vital books they would have.

Good luck!
L.S.

www.sambunjak.com
www.croatian-genealogy.com

Re: Dead End

gthompso44 — 2009-11-07 10:31:56Z

Hello!

My grandmother's maiden name was Hocevar and I did quite a lot of research on her side. You wrote that they were from Blato near Ljubljana. There is no Blato near Ljubljana... the closest one is Blato near Trebnje, where there is a whole bunch of Hocevar families living there. My grandmother was born in that area of Slovenia as well.
Vital books for this parish can be found in Ljubljana's Archdiocesan's archive. If you need any help with your research, please email me at lidija(at)sambunjak.com.

Good luck!
L.S.

www.sambunjak.com
www.croatian-genealogy.com

Re: Laictz Krain

GeorgeaSharkey86 — 2009-11-01 02:20:25Z

ZlaticaBeca - Thank you once again for your time in trying to help me. We do have a Naturalization paper for Vincent Machek but it only gives me naturalized 20 October 1896, La Salle Co., Illinois and that he renounced all allegiance to the Emperor of Austria. They also spelled is named Mashek and I have tried using this spelling at Ellis Island and Castle Island but no records. When I was there in La Salle we asked about a Declaration of Intent but they said the book that it was in was detroyed many years ago by flood or fire in the courthouse. So dead end there. The back of his marriage license says his place of birth as St. Peter, Austria. Other siblings show they were born in Unter Krain, Austria so you can see my problem. I have never found anything at Castle Island either where I thought he must have come in at in 1890-91. I will keep searching but thank you again for all your help.

Laictz Krain

GeorgeaSharkey86 — 2009-10-30 00:48:33Z

Can anyone tell me where this place in Slovenia might be? It was listed on an Ellis Island Passenger list for a relative of my husband's, Culjan, but can not locate it on a map? Thank You.

Re: Laictz Krain

GeorgeaSharkey86 — 2009-10-30 23:17:17Z

Thank you ZlaticaBeca for the Ellis Island names and places. The person I was researching is an Anton Macek but he had a name change to Marchek when he came to USA. The Culjan name (Zulian or Julian)was Anton Macek's mother's name. One of the Macek's changed his name to Culjan after the mother so it all becomes very confusing.
The actual person that the record came from was:
Ellis Island Record
First Name: Anton
Last Name: Macek
Ethnicity: Austria
Last Place of Residence: Laictz, Krain
Date of Arrival: May 19, 1900
Age at Arrival: 18 Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: L Aquitaine
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0021

The Culjan's you found are our family as well as the Anton Macek. We are trying to find a Vincent Macek that is my husband's grandfather that came to the USA 1890 or 1891 but have been unable to find him on the Ellis Island Passenger records so we were trying to pinpoint where the family originated from in Slovenia (Austria). The town of Laictz, Krain is our only clue.
Thank you for all your help.

Re: My Slovenian Family Names

rmt3843 — 2009-10-26 16:28:42Z

While researching the Sodja name, your posts came up. I believe we have some ancestors in common - Sodja & Pueblo, CO. Looking for info on Maria Sodja, sister to Marg. Kozjan. Any direction would be helpful. Would like to compare info.

Re: geneology

rmt3843 — 2009-10-26 15:02:31Z

Don't have a Aloj. Krasovec listed, or a connection to Kompolje. Family is mostly from the Metlika area. Thanks for the reply.

Krsko/Videms

rlibenschek — 2009-10-25 19:36:31Z

My family originates from Libna by Krsko/Videm. Since the Sava river is the dividing line between the provinces of Krain and Steiermark, and Videm is in Steiermark and Videm is in Krain, would I find Status Animarum records in Ljubljana, Maribor, or Krsko?

Thank you

Re: Krsko/Videms

rlibenschek — 2009-10-27 16:44:13Z

Thank you very much.
Rudi

Re: Paulina Sever from Slovenia to NYC, 1911

kdefoster — 2009-10-19 22:00:37Z

Thank you VERY much for this information. Also for the other websites on your message.

I'm hopeful that other discoveries may be made with the clues you've given me.

Thanks again.

Kathy

Paulina Sever from Slovenia to NYC, 1911

kdefoster — 2009-10-17 04:12:52Z

Paulina and three young children arrived in NYC in June 1911 to join her husband John in Somerset, Gunnison co., CO. Her nearest living relative in the old country ("in country whence alien came") is her mother, Josefa Brvar of Zlatopolje. Paulina and her children were born in Podkray.

Can anyone tell me where these two places are?

Thank you.

Kathy

Looking for Relativs to Andreas Hoznar & Caroline Gmainer

2001rob — 2009-11-06 05:20:06Z

Hi there,
I am looking for any connections in relation to my great grandparents.

My grandmother was Angela Louise Hoznar (Hosner) born in 1911
her father was Andrea Hoznar (Hosner)
and her mother Caroline(a) Gmainer (Gmeiner)

the only information I have is, that they used to live in Bovec and moved to Germany (Gladbeck) before the 1st Worldwar.

Any information is highly appreciated.
Rgds
Rob van Uden

Getting Birth/Death/Marriage Records from Gottschee Church Parishes

WPRCavTrpr — 2009-10-22 14:10:58Z

Does anyone know who to write to or contact to find the local church records for the Gottschee area of Slovenia? My father's family (Ratschki and Arch), came from Gottschee - specifically Tiefenbach/Untertiefenbach. It has taken a long time just tracking down what info I have now. I would like to find out more about my ancestors from this area.

Re: RE: PAZDERA & TREGEL - Slovenian/Bohemian "Praque" Czech Austria

JiriPayne — 2009-10-18 23:45:56Z

Hallo!

My name is Jiri (= Georg) Payne.

Responding to your message I am pretty sure Frank Pazdera Payne, mentioned in your message, was my grandfather. Please look to my family tree on http://www.payne.cz/2xS43707/PayneFrank.htm

Sincerely Jiri Payne

Re: POTRATO

kathielucas41 — 2009-10-31 19:32:44Z

My grandfather's name was Gilbert Potrato. He migrated to the US in the early 1900's. He married my grandmother Anna Pakiz. My father Joseph was his son. My maiden name was Kathie Potrato, my sister's name is Maureen Potrato. She is the only one in the US with this name. I have a cousin named Tina in Slovenia. I believe my great grandfather was a Judge named Josephus Potrato. Would appreciate you letting me know about the name Potrato.

Re: Ribnica na Pohorju- Family castle found again

madystaff — 2009-11-05 00:27:41Z

Alice Gosak ---
I have no idea if you'll see this but hope you do. I was thinking of you today & looked up your name on the Internet & found this (among other references to you). Do you remember me ?? I was roommates with Arlene at U. of Wisconsin & you were our 'neighbor.' I was Mady Saifer then. Married after to Francisco (think I was still in touch with you then), divorced in '84, now with someone but not married. Have a daughter & 2 little grandbabys. Would love to hear from you !! So would Arlene (she lives 1/2 hr. away from me & we're in touch). Hope all is well.

Re: Getting Birth/Death/Marriage Records from Gottschee Church Parishes

semic2 — 2009-10-23 12:02:20Z

(Ober)tiefenbach and Untertiefenbach are located in Morobitz Parish (Slovenian name Borovec). The church records for Morobitz Parish are on microfilm and are available thru your nearest local LDS Family History Center. In the Family History Library Catalog you can obtain a listing of the films by inserting Morobitz in the Place Search box. Also check out the Gottscheer Heritage and Genealogy Association - http:/www.gottschee.org - they have available many of the various Gottschee parish marriage records in paper or CD format which are available for purchase.

Re: Zakrajsek from Bloke

Pyroreb — 2009-10-31 18:54:17Z

Hi Janice,

I'm trying to connect your family (George and Frances's kids including the late Joseph A. Zakrajsek) to my Cleveland Zakrajsek family. My mother's grandmother was Helena "Lena" "Carolina" Zakrajsek (1883-1913) born Vipava, Austria (Slovenia). Her parents were Andrey "Andrew" Zakrajsek born Feb 1850 in Kranjska, Austria (Slovenia) and Mary ??? born Feb 1852 in Kranjska, Austria.

Apparently her brothers decided to "Americanized" themselves by changing their last name to Baker.

Does any of this look familiar??

Thanks,

~Andrew C. Pratt
Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Pratt.74@osu.edu

Re: Getting Birth/Death/Marriage Records from Gottschee Church Parishes

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-22 16:08:40Z

maybe anywhere a help?
http://www.gottschee.org/pubs.html

TOMEC from Doblice

doblice — 2009-10-27 02:39:49Z

I have been doing some research on the Tomec, Thomez, Tumez and Thometz family that lived in house number 2 and 3 of the village of Doblice in Crnomelj Parish. This family married into the Vertin family of Doblice, and it looks like the family left Slovenia about 1850 and several brothers went to Chicago. There are many family members descended from this one family. There are lots of Tomec from Jerneja Vas, another village in Crnomelj and we are wondering if this is the actual home village of this Tomec family. I am looking for early information on this family in Doblice.

Re: Krsko/Videms

gthompso44 — 2009-10-26 21:01:47Z

Village called Libna is under a parish called Videm- Krsko.
Vital books for this parish are to be found at Ljubljana's Archbishop's archive. They range from 1670-1867 (births), 1713-1867 (marriages) and 1771-1867 (deaths). Newer ones can be found at local records office.
If you need anything else, you can email me at lidija(at)sambunjak.com.

Good luck!
L.S.

www.sambunjak.com
www.croatian-genealogy.com

Re: Paulina Sever from Slovenia to NYC, 1911

gthompso44 — 2009-10-19 20:41:29Z

Hello!

Zlato polje is near Lukovica. There are a few places with the name of Podkraj in Slovenia. They are near Ajdovscina, Hrastnik, Ravne na Koroskem, Velike Lasce and Zalec. The closest Podkraj to Zlato polje would be near Hrastnik (distance is about 50km).
If you need any other help, you can email me lidija(at)sambunjak.com

Good luck!
L.S.

www.sambunjak.com
www.croatian-genealogy.com

Dead End

meksmk1 — 2009-11-05 22:42:38Z

I've hit a dead end in my search for my relatives from Slovenia. My granfather Joseph Kotchevar was born Joseph Hocevar outside of Ljublana (Blato?) in 1893. His father was Johann and mother was Mary Krizman. They had children named Mary (immigrated to the US and lived in Colorado), John (pulled off a train and killed after WW II in the communist purge), Frank, Francis (now dead but has a daughter that is a journalist in Slovenia), Tony (came to the US then back to Europe and killed on the Russian front in WW II), Louis (killed in a French mining accident right after WW I), Josphine (died at 3 years old), and Jacob (died at 6 months). I've translated the names to more closely match their Slovenian origin without any success. It seems I have a lot of information. But it doesn't seem to have helped in my search. Any help/thoughts where to turn or do you have information in your family tree?

Re: Gornik - More information

VPasic — 2009-10-30 18:11:03Z

Looking for Janez Gornik from Metlika(Rosalnice?)in his 60.
in Canada or USA?

Re: Great Grandparents

peterbalazovic — 2009-11-03 11:58:49Z

Hello,

I am from Binovce village. Anything particular to help?

Regards,
Peter

Re: Muhich

sheilamuhic — 2009-10-16 12:38:29Z

HI,
MY NAME IS SHEILA MUHIC.
I READ YOU HAVE THE GENEALOGY OF THE MUHIC FAMILIY,
I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN THE ORIGINS OF MY FAMILY.
I'M FROM BOSNIA ERZEGOVINA, IN PARTICULAR FROM MAHOJE (A LITTLE VILLAGE IN THE MOUNTAINS WHERE LIVE ONLY PEOPLE WHOSE SURNAME IS MUHIC).
PLEASE CONTACT ME, IF CAN STILL SHARE THE MUHIC GENEALOGY.
I'M SO CURIOUS. PLEASE..

BEST REGARDS
SHEILA

Re: geanology of names and locations

sheilamuhic — 2009-10-16 12:28:15Z

Hi,
I don't know exactly about Croatia and Slovenia, but I can say that in Bosnia Herzegovina there are a lot of families named Muhic. I am Sheila (Sejla) Muhic.
There is in particular a small village in the Balcans mountains, Mahoje, where live only persons whose surname is Muhic. A Muhic-Village!
We are known as very strong,stubborn,nervous,clever,particular people.
I would like more about my origins.
I am slavic (even if I live in Italy).
What are you?
Muhic aren't originally from Balcans??
Please let me know more if you want, and I will be sure happy to give you all the information I can give.

Best regards
Sheila

Re: geneology

WMeglen — 2009-10-17 07:39:43Z

Uncertain relevance but you listed Krasovec among your surnames. I have a Status Animarum extract for Potiskavec #7, Struge Parish that lists Veronika born 12 Apr. 1916 who was married at Kompolje to Aloj. KRASOVEC [Strnad], she was the daughter of Jozef MEGLEN born at Potiskavec 29 Jan. 1869 and married 25 Feb. 1895, to Ivana MESOJEDEC born 21 June 1871 at Podtabor, No further info on Aloz's family but I have other mentions of KRASOVEC and spelling variants some with links to Colorado.

Re: Sopotnicks

Brooks831 — 2009-11-05 19:03:16Z

Are you still doing research on the Luznar, Lovrin, and Sopotnick family. I'm Jenny Largent's daughter and have started a family tree a year ago.

ljubljana archive

begannon — 2009-10-24 14:13:47Z

Does anyone know the best form of payment for documents from the Ljubljana catholic archive? Do they accept international bank checks and in what currency? To whom is it made out? Any and all advice is welcome.

Re: FAKIN

cyriazis — 2009-10-27 00:58:29Z

Who are you? Are you related to Onorina?

Re: Laictz Krain

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-11-01 02:54:42Z

You're welcome.

Anton's name on the manifest did look like MASEK instead of MACEK.
Unter krain as in Unterkrain, Austria
Sankt Peter as Svaty Petr, Bohmen/Czech Republic
In CZ's phone book Mašek (Mashek), Macek and Maček.
Unfortunately, the pre 1906 naturalization intent and petition did not require for the applicant to put down where precisely he was born, only the name of a country.
Lots of church records of Sankt Peter but which one would apply to your ancestor?
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermain...=

Re: Laictz Krain

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-10-31 23:58:02Z

You're welcome.

You know that Vincent MACEK could have come thru Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia, Canada's port or www.castlegarden.org Do you have any other US document on Anton MACEK? Any draft registriation form, naturalization intent and petition, state marriage application? The writing is so faint on the manifest but it does sort of look like Laictz Krain. Can it be Leitsch /Leutsch, Loitsch, or Lasce (La!#e) Those choices I found in the site http://feefhs.org/links/Slovenia/towns/ljublgaz.html
http://feefhs.org/links/slovenia.html
try www.ihff.at gazetteer than listing Maybe you can come up with something that I am not seeing.

Re: Laictz Krain

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-10-30 15:01:22Z

George

I find these arriving NY Ellis Island:
Culjan, Foze Herlac 7 1891 1898
Culjan, Johann Herlac 8 1890 1898
Culjan, Maria 46 1866 1912
Culjan, Maria Herlac 33 1865 1898 Whose manifest does it says Laictz, Krain?
Blazec, Josef Laictz, Krain 19 1881 1900
Horosic, Franz Laictz, Krain 24 1876 1900
Macek, Anton Laictz, Krain 18 1882 1900
Muzga, Janez Laictz, Krain 18 1882 1900
Maybe Laictz is Lajse. {?}
Lajše, Selške Lajše populated place 46°15' N 14°12' E E M U G Slovenia 20.5 miles NW of Ljubljana 46°3' N 14°31' E
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&am...
Any other documents on this ancestor?