Mures - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Thomas Popdan / Toader Bogdan, Rad, Majloth, from Ikland/Iclanzal to Alliance, OH

mavc1948 — 2013-03-12 14:28:01Z

Not sure of the connection- but I'm looking for Hungarian/Romanian town for George Lazar b. 1884, came to U.S. in 1906- went to Pennsylvania, married and settled in Dayton, Ohio from approx. 1915-1924. thanks,Marcel

Re: LAZAR in Danes, Mures County, Romania

otilialaz — 2012-09-30 18:37:25Z

Hello,

I'm Otilia Lazar, my grandfather is also from Danes, his name was Lazar Ion, and was born around 1920. His parents, unfortunately don't know their name (my grandfather died and I didn't ask him) left from Danes around 1930 but stopped in Braila, Romania because one of them get sick and died, so they remained there.

I'm curios to know more about the family and why they wanted to left all in America.

For information about birth or marriage documents I think the city hall from Danes or Sighisoara is the best place to look for.

I know my answer comes after 10 years but I'm glad to meet some possible family members.

Kind regards,
Otilia

Re: Janos Gagyi & Rebecca Kovacs in Segesvar

mboron11 — 2012-08-09 21:24:33Z

Janos, my grandmother, Roza Gagyi married in the Hungarian Reformed Church in 1924 in the USA, Not sure if that was her church in Segesvar. Thanks

Re: Janos Gagyi & Rebecca Kovacs in Segesvar

J_Kocs — 2012-08-09 16:21:04Z

Do you know their faith / religion?
A part of the church registers of Sighisoara are kept by the Mures County Office of Romanian National Archives, an other part must be at the Parish Officies in Sighisoara.
Janos - from Sfantu Gheorghe, Covasna County

Re: Janos Gagyi & Rebecca Kovacs in Segesvar

mboron11 — 2012-08-09 13:08:35Z

Thanks Janos, Janos and Rebecca married before 1888, children Janos, Colman, Bela, Roza and 2 or 3 females born in Segesvar now Sighisoara. Janos, Colman, Bela & Roza came to USA between 1906-1923, Bela returned to Segesvar 1924. Any help on birth, death & marriage is appreciated.

Re: Janos Gagyi & Rebecca Kovacs in Segesvar

J_Kocs — 2012-08-09 06:08:45Z

May we help in any way?
Janos - from Transilvania
www.erdelygen.uw.hu

Re: location of St Marton for surname Csonka

J_Kocs — 2012-08-09 06:05:19Z

Dear Fred,
There are four Szentmartons in Mures County...
- Dicsoszentmarton / Tarnaveni
- Korodszentmarton / Coroisanmartin
- Mezoszentmarton / Sanmartinu de Campie
- Nyaradszentmarton / Mitresti
The last three places has no Catholic communities, so the must probable place of your Csonkas is Dicsoszentmarton / Tarnaveni / Sankt-Martin (Marteskirch or Mierteskirch).
Unfortunatelly, no church records in the Mures County State Archive - in lucky case, they are kept by the local Parish Office.
Janos - from Transilvania
www.erdelygen.uw.hu

Re: LAZAR in Danes, Mures County, Romania

ctyler90 — 2012-07-26 19:29:15Z

My family came from Albesht,same county 3 miles east of Sig.Rebecca was my Grandmothers mother s name. And we have an uncle Nick ( Anna,grandmother brother) both migrated to Ft. Wayne In. in 1917. These people were decendents of Hungarian Szelkly (Hargita County today) ,Look up Lazaria,Lazar Castle (1450-1870 s) I don t know if this has anything to do with either one of our family orgins,but my grandmother said that Bethlan Gabor (prince of Transylvania) was born in the family house. She just left out the part that it was more of a manor.And they had gone broke by 1890 s and moved to Sig. Not much more known ,a few Lazars are still in the area as my Grandmother didn t sign over property (blacksmith shop) to her nephew in 1964.That was in Sig at the time. Hope this helps ....ctyler

Thomas Popdan / Toader Bogdan, Rad, Majloth, from Ikland/Iclanzal to Alliance, OH

maureenm013 — 2012-07-09 22:19:55Z

Seeking info about the family of my great grandfather, Thomas Popdan/ Toader Bogdan, who immigrated to Alliance, OH in 1907 with 3 other Romanians: Janos Rad, Vasilov Majloth, Alexa Wederean, via Rotterdam on the Potsdam.

Re: Janos Gagyi & Rebecca Kovacs in Segesvar

r86gnrare — 2012-04-17 20:37:52Z

My great-grandfather was Kolmon Gagyi who married Ida Jakab. I am trying to trace them back to hungary as well.

Re: location of St Marton for surname Csonka

bgwiehle — 2012-04-13 17:14:24Z

You've got a couple of difficulties to overcome:
Just as Maros-Vásárhely (aka Neumarkt) is now Târgu Mureş, so your "Szent-Márton" is now something else (even if similar). However, there were at least 12 Szent-Mártons in Transylvania (3 in the same county as Maros-Vásárhely!) - did your relative mean the closest to Maros-Vásárhely or the biggest or best known?
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/ has good searchable gazetteers. (Or use Wikipedia, WeRelate, FamilySearch,...) You also could google the on-line Romanian phone books and search them for where there are Csonkas now and then match the current locations with the old placenames.
Good luck!

location of St Marton for surname Csonka

fredsiebenmann — 2012-04-04 20:28:43Z

When I visited a relative in Marosvasarhely they said that all of the Csonka from my family came from St Marton (Martin in Romania). I can't seem to find this place. The family were Roman Catholic so I would looking for church records from that place to pick up the track that has gotten lost).

Any help is greatly appreciated. Fred

Alex Orechoneg and Pauline Fabian Family

mboron11 — 2012-01-31 19:07:08Z

Alex Orechoneg and Pauline Fabian parents of Amalia Fabian, born in 1888 in Rode (now Zagar). Amalia came to USA in 1907, married Michael Wellmann from Agnetheln. Amalia's step sister, Pauline,husband John Brenner and baby Pauline also came to Ohio,USA in 1906. Thanks for any help.

Janos Gagyi & Rebecca Kovacs in Segesvar

mboron11 — 2012-01-31 19:05:04Z

Grandmother Rose Gagyi born 1897,father Janos, mother Rebecca Kovacs,brothers Janos,Coleman,Bela also 2 sisters. Rose came to Youngstown, Ohio in 1923. Married George Yelichek.

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

ebcnme — 2011-10-17 14:34:56Z

Melanie,
Ijust came across your posting on Ancestry re: the Zikeli surname. My parents were John and Lucy(DeMuth) Zikeli. I know they visited a Zikeli family in Elwood City. My grandparents were from Maldorf; John Zikeli and Anna Gunther or Gunter Zikeli. I really do not know much about my relatives as noone seemed inclined to discuss past history. Perhaps you know more than I.

Judy Wheeler

Re: mailbox

J_Kocs — 2011-09-19 05:30:10Z

Changed mailbox: j_kocs@yahoo.com.
Janos

Re: Dumitru family

emilpoporad — 2011-09-02 00:48:00Z

While researching on Ancestry.com I discovered that my grandfather (Emil Dumitru) from Mercer Pa. now deceased was a son of a Zosim Dumitru from "Tarnava Mica in Roumania, Nadesul Sasesc." Emil Dumitru was born in 1893 and died in 1989. Might this Zosim Dumitru be part of the same family or was Zosim Dumitru a common name in Romania like Smith or Jones is in the United States.

Sincerely,
Emil Dumitru Poporad
emil.poporad@yahoo.com
9/1/2011

Re: Socaciu family from Soard, Transylvania

theodore784 — 2011-02-16 19:54:33Z

Wow! Thank you for the good news. I had forgotten about my posting. It has been nearly a year since I posted the request.Well-long story short, I am planning to visit Sighisoara, Soard, Sacel and Vanatori late this summer. I finally made contact with a distant cousin who now lives in Detroit. His last name is Campean and his great-grandmother was my grandfather's sister Ana Capatina. His father, Gheorghe, was visiting him from Sighisoara, and we were all able to meet.Gheorghe's mother is my father's first cousin.So we met face to face last September and learned about the village and each other. It was a great experience.
My grandfather kept a few close friends and I found out that they were from the village or nearby. He was close to Avram Anghel and Nick Kelemen from the village. I hired a researcher to photograph the orthodox cemetary and graves. I saw all the family names except for Dinescu and Tescula. My grandfather had a first cousin who went by John Dan here in Wierton, WVa. His step daughter told me that his real name was Dinescu. But I did not see any pictures of tombstones with the name Dinescu. There are several with the name Dan so I supect the stepdaughter is incorrect.
The Socaciu name appears to have died out in the village. The last Socaciu ,Ioan, died in 2008. He was a first cousin to my father. He left one child, Marioara Murzea, and his widow, Olivia. Marioara and her family live in Brasov. Olivia is in her late 70's and she still lives in Soard. Please let me know what your mother finds out too.It was wonderful to hear from someone who shares the heritage.
Your mother probably knew Gheorghe, his sister Mariana- married to Liviu Mosura, and his brother Traian. Mariana and Traian spend the summers in Soard. She may have known Marioara along with the Cadaru family of Sacel. My name is Ted Sockaci and if you wish you can contact me directly at theodore_784@hotmail.com. Thank you so much for contacting me. It made my day. Ted.

Re: Socaciu family from Soard, Transylvania

AllieM96 — 2011-02-15 22:44:27Z

Hi! I found your message while searching "Soard" on Google and was happy to see other people with the same roots living in the US. I live in NC, but my mother is from Soard. As a child I used to go to my grandparents in Soard a lot and I've heard of some of the names that you mention. I called my mother and she is familiar with all the last names that you mention. She is 63 years old and her grandparents came to the US around the same time your grandparents came. They settled in Cleveland, OH, but returned to Romania in 1922. My mother grew up with other kids whose last name was Socaci, Capatina and Regula. She knows of Tescula but said they lived in Vanatori, near Soard. She said that she will call her sister who lives in Soard with her family to find out more information about the people that you mentioned. She said her sister's husband, as a child lived 2 houses away from Capatina. As soon as she finds out more I will get back to you.

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

mskindell — 2011-01-27 21:43:02Z

Melanie, I have many members of your Zikeli family in my Genealogy database...our ancestors immigrated from Maldorf and Hohndorf in Transylvania. My greatgrandparents were Andrew Konradt and Maria Zikeli Konradt. Contact me at mskindell@aol.com so I can share additional information.

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

mskindell — 2011-01-27 21:38:31Z

Judy, Your grandfather John Zikeli, who died in Alabama, is a cousin of mine. My greatgrandparents are also from Maldorf...their names were Andrew Konradt and Maria Zikeli Konradt. They immigrated to Homestead and Clairton, PA, and then moved to Cleveland, Ohio. For several years, I have entered the Maldorf and Hohndorf residents into my genealogy database....I have over 6,000 people from Maldorf and Hohndorf...and still working on people born before 1780. Contact me at mskindell@aol.com so we can communicate further. Michael Skindell in Cleveland, OH

Re: looking for information

kerteszistvana — 2010-12-01 07:56:35Z

Csatho Gabor and his wife are buried in the hungarian cemetery from Dicsoszentmarton

Re: Menyes Name

johndienesch — 2010-09-24 08:05:06Z

My mother Katherina Menyes (1906) married Stephan Dienesch 1898). I can only recall two of my mother's family : sisters Susan and Mary. I can only recall two of my father's brothers: George and Mike. Our family immigrated to Canada during the mid 1920's. My sister Katharine was born in 1924, my brother Fred was born 1936 and I was born in 1949.

I believe one of my parents was from Birk and the other from a nearby village.

Good luck on your search,

John Dienesch

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

mwashington620 — 2010-08-03 23:47:51Z

Hi - my name is Melanie "Zikeli" Hines and my great-grandfather was Andreas Zikeli who was born in Maldorf. He married Elizabeth Gunther and they had 7 children. Andy (my grandfather), Paul, John, George, Hilda, Elizabeth, Karl and another daughter I only know as Aunt Tiny. We just were in Ellwood, PA for our Zikeli reunion. Somewhere we are related - would be interested to see where in the family tree we are connected.

Re: Lazar

dja92051 — 2010-07-31 16:16:51Z

I am looking for a Peter Lazar from Mezoband, now Band, Romania. His mother was Teodora Lazar, her father Vasilie Lazar and her mother Rebeka Horgos. My father is now living in California and would love to find some relatives.
Debby

Re: LAZAR in Danes, Mures County, Romania

dja92051 — 2010-07-31 16:09:07Z

My Grandfather was born in Mezoband, now Band, Romania. His name is Peter Lazar. His father was unknown. His mother was Teodora Lazar, her father Vasilie Lazar and her mother was Rebekah Horgos. Teodora later married a Lajos Venig, also from Band. Can you help me find information about them? Birth certs, marriage license, death record? Where would they be? How can I find them?
Debby

Re: LAZAR in Danes, Mures County, Romania

dja92051 — 2010-07-31 16:02:41Z

I am looking for relatives in Mures, Romania also. My grandfather's name was Peter Lazarucz. Could they have been related to your family? My grandfather came to the US in 1922 I believe and he also ended up in Detroit. Surely they might have known each other. My Grandfather changed his name to Peter Lenkey after arriving. I don't know why. Have you found anything?
Debby

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

fatcatmedic — 2010-04-01 05:37:59Z

Hi Nicole, sorry, I haven't really searched the Grell side as of yet. I was searching my Grandmothers name and her older brothers' daughter married a Grell. If I do find anything, I will post it immediately and will also email you the info. Good luck on your search.

Cheryl Morrison

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

nickiedaisey — 2010-03-31 19:26:31Z

Hello, my name is Nicole Harkema. My grandmother was Vivienne Grell, married to Raymond Harkema. I have not been able to find any info on her what so ever. Do you happen to know if you came across her name in your Grell History anywhere? My email is nickiedaisey@yahoo.com.

Socaciu family from Soard, Transylvania

theodore784 — 2010-03-23 18:27:32Z

I am trying to locate records of the Socaciu family of Soard.My grandfather,Janos(Ioan) Socaciu, came from there. He left his parents Zaharia and Ana(Campean) along with sisters Ana (Married Gheorghe Capatina)and Sylvia(Married Nicolae Cardaru), a brother Todor,and an uncle Teodor. I have tried the Mures county seat and they have no records from the village. The local orthodox church only has records back to 1950. Does anyone have any ideas where to look next? Any information about the above families would be welcomed.
My grandfather was also related to the Tescula,Regula, and Dinescu families from the local area and had a first cousin John Dinescu(aka Dan) here(western PA) along with second cousins John Tescula and John Regula.Information about those families would be appreciated also.My grandfather and his cousins came to America between 1912 to 1914.Thank you.

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

fatcatmedic — 2010-03-21 04:16:39Z

Hi, my name is Cheryl Morrison and I noticed your posting. My Grandmother, Sara Simonis Schaetzle, came from Keisd Transylvania.
Her aunt Katharina Simonis married Micheal Scheel (1888-1914).
Their child was Micheal Scheel Jr.(1913-1953)and he wed Dorothea Roth. They had 3 children. Dorothea(Feb 20 1939), Micheal(Apr 5 1941) and Walter( Feb 26 1944).
Their Daughter, Dorothea married Georg Grell (Sept 29,1935-Dec 2007). They had 3 children, Dorothea, Hans-Georg and Hermann.
Daughter Dorothea Grell (Jan 30 1964) married Rudi Schabasta on Jan 19 1991 in Nuermberg Germany. They have 3 Children, Tobias, Natalie, and Anne.

If you think this is a relation to you, please feel free to email me at anytime. I am really interested to find out alot more on my grandmother's side of family.
I do have more info on Scheels and Simonis from Keisd. Take Care.

fatcamedic@tbaytel.net

Re: Segesvar

chipper119 — 2009-11-10 00:52:12Z

Thank you for the information. I appreciate it. I am just beginning this journey to find my roots so I am learning as I go along. Thank you and I'll see what I can find out.
Kim

Re: Segesvar

bgwiehle — 2009-11-09 12:40:39Z

Hi!
Your query doesn't include some key information
1. birth and immigration dates - either estimated or known
2. sources for your current information, whether documented or oral tradition
3. what resources you've already searched, whether successful or not

The Ellis Island entry records include a number of Radlers from Transylvania, mostly from the region between Segesvar (Sighisoara or Schäßburg) and Medgyes (Medias or Mediasch). One John Radler, arrived 1909, is a merchant from Segevar but place of birth is given as Marosvásárhely (Târgu Mureş or Neumarkt).

Identifying the right place is a key to further information.

Silvas / Padurean / Haba

Yasmina30800 — 2009-11-04 22:26:33Z

Hi, I am searching for people with the above surnames from the Mures country area and any history attached to the names.

Segesvar

chipper119 — 2009-10-31 01:16:51Z

Looking for any information on Radler Family (Johann) from Segesar. chipper119@comcast.net Kim Radler

Re: Old Hungarian Records for Istan-Falva now Istan-tau

dja92051 — 2009-10-26 00:53:43Z

Hi! I responded to you over a year ago and wondered if you have made any progress finding your family in the Darawa?
I have had no luck finding info on my grandfather in Band. I was hoping you might have found something that could also help me. Grabbing for straws as they say. Thanks, Debby

Radler Family - Transylvania

chipper119 — 2009-10-24 18:44:02Z

I am just starting my roots research. I am looking for information on the Radler family - Segesvar in Transylvania, Romania. Thank you. Kim
chipper119@comcast.net

Re: Indrutz family of Seulia

purdue1986_1 — 2009-10-07 01:53:44Z

No, I am George and Jean's nephew. Thank you for the note.

Re: Indrutz family of Seulia

artzleigh — 2009-10-06 22:04:55Z

I am not related. I am a friend of Jean Alexander and work on their tree for them a couple of years ago. They have all the info that I put together. There were some lose ends that Jean and I were suppose to tie together but we have never gotten around to it. Are you one of their sons?

Re: Indrutz family of Seulia

purdue1986_1 — 2009-10-06 16:38:32Z

I am the grandson of Florence Indrutz Alexander. How are you related to George and Mary?

Re: Mezoband (Band), Mures, Romania

J_Kocs — 2009-08-03 05:11:56Z

Dear Troy,
I am able to help your research with Parish records of Mezoband. Write me a direct mail to j_kocs at yahoo dot com
Janos - from Transylvania, Romania
www.erdelygen.uw.hu

Re: Roska family tree

dpurvis4444 — 2009-04-26 11:20:08Z

I have members of my family with the last name Roska or Roske (depending on whether the individual is male or female.

I believe my line of Roska came from Lativia. However they may also have a French, Swedish or Russian Heritage.

My great grandfather Janis John Roska m Antonia nee Dalbings in Latvia.

Please contact me if you would like to share any further information.

Mezoband (Band), Mures, Romania

dja92051 — 2009-03-13 07:38:10Z

Looking for Lazarucz, Theodora, mother Horgas, Rebeka.

Re: LAZAR in Danes, Mures County, Romania

dja92051 — 2009-03-13 07:37:07Z

Happy New Year 2009. I do not know if you are still active in this website but I am looking for information about Mezoband, which is near Danes, I believe. It is now called Band, Mures, Transylvania, Romania. I am looking for information about Lazar(ucz). I do not know if the last name is Lazar and the (ucz) is an addition to tell about the family. Can you help?
Debby

Old Hungarian Records for Istan-Falva now Istan-tau

johnprice629 — 2009-01-25 07:37:42Z

Hello. I recently learned that my great-great grandfather, Martin Mach, owned land and lived in a village known as Darawa near the village of Isten-Falva. This would have been around 1859 or 1860. While his sons immigrated to the United States between 1896 and 1902, he remained in the homeland. I have not been able to locate any information about Darawa but have learned that Isten-Falva is now known as Istan-Tau near the village of Band and about 15 miles west of Targu Mures. I am wondering if anyone knows more specifically where this village may be located as well as where I might look for land records/tax records/ or census information. According to memories of family members my great-great grandfather took a government land grant. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Lazarucz, Horgas, Venig

dja92051 — 2009-01-15 19:16:16Z

From Mezoband ( now Band ) in Mures, Romania.

Re: Old Hungarian Records for Istan-Falva now Istan-tau

dja92051 — 2009-01-15 19:07:58Z

I wish I could be of help but unfortunately I too am looking for information. My family is from Mezoband, now Band, near TirguMures, close to where you family is from. I found out that Mezoband had been changed to Band by requesting a search from the Library of Congress in Washington. Just went online. In the meantime, perhaps you may find something on my ancestors, Lazarucz, Venig and Horgas. If so, please advise. Thank you.
Debby

Re: Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

mskindell — 2008-08-31 03:48:26Z

I noticed you had Andy Zikeli in the lineage. I don't know if there is a connection but my greatgrandparents were Andreas (Andrew, Andy)Konrad son of Johann Konrad and Sara Zikeli. Andreas Konrad was born 29 Oct 1881, in the Village of Maldorf (Domald), Commune of Viisoara, Mures (Miersch), Translyvania (Siebenburgen), Romania, Austria-Hungary. (the names of these places changed over time) He had several sibilings including Michael and George. Andreas Konrad married Marie Zikeli on 21 Aug 1904 in Maldorf. Marie Zikeli was born 29 Sep 1885 in Maldorf. Her parents were Andreas Zikeli and Marie ??.

Andreas Konrad immigrated to Homestead, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, final destination was stepbrother? Andreas Zikeli. Andreas Konrad travelled on ship Wittekind arriving in Baltimore, Maryland on 22 Mar 1905. Andreas Konrad traveled with two Michael Zikeli's. They appeared to be cousins or possibly stepbrothers. The Zikeli's Andreas Konrad came to stay with apparently settled in Elmwood, PA. Andreas Konrad's wife, Marie Zikeli, immigrated, with their infant child, also Andreas Konrad, to Clairton, PA, traveling on ship Kaiserin Auguste Victoria arriving on 9 Apr 1907 at Ellis Island, New York.

Andy and Marie had eight children, moved to Cleveland, OH around 1912. Andy died 18 Sept 1953 and Marie died 17 May 1949. I am a descendent, in that they were my great grandparents. I understand that the Zikeli's in Elmwood, PA and possibly some in Cleveland, OH, are distant relatives.

If you find out more about your Andy Zikeli and Sarah Grell, let me know..They might be relatives of my greatgrandparents.

Mike

Grell family in Keisd/Saschiz

judyg26 — 2008-05-12 18:44:50Z

My grandfather, John Grell, was born in 1881 in Keisd. His
father was Michael and mother ? Ehrman. Below is what info I have from an old file in my computer. I do have some updates from Margarete, daughter of Hilda Gutkowski.

I visited Transylvania in August of 2006 with the ATS trip from Cleveland, but since I had recently injured my knee, I was unable to do the walking to the cemetery in Keisd, as I had hoped. Time factor didn't help either.

I have since learned that the church records are held by the bishop in Schassburg/Sighisoara, but I would like to know if anyone has an address or email address so that I might submit my information to them to locate some of the missing information. The other question I have is, how do you correctly address something being sent to Romania? Here it is
name,
address,
city state zip code

While I spent several hours in Keisd, I learned that some Fograscher/Grell descendants still lived there, but they were not at home while I was there. I also learned that some of their relatives in Germany would be visiting in the next couple of days. Guess my timing was really off for that trip.

I have learned that my grandfather came here in 1905/06 (but can't locate through which port - definitely not Ellis Island), lived in an area of Cleveland with a Mike Grell ( can't determine if he was a brother or a cousin). Married in March 1906, returned to Europe with his wife and daughter, between 12/1907 and 11/1909. Had two additional children there. Returned to Ohio after 9/1911, but unsure when. Have him purchasing land in January 1914. Had another child in August 1914. He returned to Europe again at some point, because I had a shipping tag dated 1917. But I don't know if it was just him or the whole family that returned to Europe. Next child was born in 1923 and then one in 1926 and city directory records place him here in 1923. I have no idea where the family was between 1914-1923, except that I think mother and children were here in rental property on a farm in what is currently suburbs. No records have been found yet to prove where they were.

There is another Grell family in the area, descended from I belive that Mike Grell that was listed in the 1906 directory. Talking with descendants of him, they don't know much of their family history either. But they do know he was from Keisd as well and was a little older than John. Their family also has marriages to Fograschers as well. I have to presume that they are related as well. I also know that supposedly we are realted to the Knall family - cousins - but even their line here in Cleveland cannot confirm any connections.

It is also rumored in my family that because my grandmother was Catholic, that that fact may have separated my grandfather from his family. When talking with the Mike Grell descendant, she also told me of an uncle of hers that no one in her family communicated with, because he had also married a Catholic woman.

She also stated that her grandparents rarely talked about connections with family in Europe and my older cousins haven't been able to shed any light on family history either. My one cousin did mention that grandpa talked about the terracing of land, the rolling hills, and the good farmland that was in his village. On my trip, that was very evident. It was great to view the land where he lived and experience the view of the fortress of Keisd overlooking his village. I got to see something that he viewed growing up.

If anyone can supply me with some information or fill in any of the blanks below - THANKS IN ADVANCE!

Judy Gilson
Descendants of Mike Grell

1 Mike Grell b: Abt. 1860
.. +? Ehrman b: Abt. 1860
2 Dorothy Grell b: Bet. 1880 - 1884 +John Scheel
.. 3 John Scheel b: Abt. 1896
...... +?
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.. 3 Andy Scheel b: Aug 23, 1897 in Romania d: Dec 26, 1982 in , Cuyahoga, OH
...... +Katherine Herberth b: Dec 18, 1901 in Cleveland
.... 4 Dorothy M. Scheel b: 1924
........ +? Szabo
.... 4 Andrew Arnold Scheel b: Jul 19, 1935 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH d: Nov 28, 1989
........ +Katherine "Katy" Dietrich b: Abt. 1940 m: 1959
.. 3 Michael Scheel b: Abt. 1898
...... +?
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.... 4 ? Scheel
.. 3 Dorothea "Dorothy Dora" Scheel +?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
2 Sarah Grell b: Bet. 1882 - 1885 +Andy Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
.. 3 ? Zekeli
2 Susan Grell b: Bet. 1883 - 1886 in Keisd,Hungary
.... +Rudolf Gutkowski
.. 3 Alfred Gutkowski
...... +?
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.. 3 Rudolf Gutkowski
...... +?
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.... 4 ? Gutkowski
.. 3 Hilda Gutkowski b: 1912
...... +?
.... 4 Michael ?
........ +?
.... 4 Margarete ?
........ +?
.. 3 Susanna Gutkowski
...... +?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
.... 4 ? ?
2 Katherine Grell b: Abt. 1884 inDeutschkreutz +John Fograscher b: in KAIST, Hungary 3 ? Fograscher
.. 3 ? Fograscher
.. 3 ? Fograscher
.. 3 ? Fograscher
2 John Grell b: Apr 04, 1881 in Keisd, Austria, H d: Jun 21, 1958 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH
.... +Katherine "Katherine Kraus(e)" Kraussb: Mar 13, 1883 in Beschinova, Austria, Hungary m: Mar 25, 1906 in Elyria, Lorain, OH d: Dec 02, 1932 in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH
.. 3 Katherine Grell b: Dec 11, 1907 in OH +Herman M Jirberg b: Dec 01, 1899 in 3 Susan Grell b: Nov 12, 1909 in Austria,
...... +John Anthony Weber b: Sep 15, 1906 in
.. 3 Margaret Grell b: Sep 29, 1911 .. +Lester John Stephens b: Feb 18, 1899 in
.. 3 Micahel Grell b. August 1914
+Eveyln Codrington b Feb 24, 1918 in
3 George Grell b: Sep 01, 1923 in
...... +Mary Margaret Mahoney b: Jul 08, 1915 in
.. 3 Jeanette Grell b: Jul 15, 1926 in

Re: Roska family tree

genshorek — 2008-01-05 19:04:11Z

Hi Karen
It's Josephine
I can't reach you at your goldenvalley e-mail. do you have a new address
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