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Re: Surnames: Brdar, Sajatovic, Obradovic, Herak

nsayatovich — 2013-05-17 15:53:39Z

Greetings, my name is Neal Sayatovich and I know the surname because I have it. My great great grandfather Nikola Sajatovic immigrated to Ohio appx. 1909.

Re: Mike Sestric

incitatus — 2013-05-09 14:05:49Z

If this is your Mike than acc. to the 1920 United States Federal Census about Mike Sestrich, both Mike and Bara (his first wife?) were from Ribnik (incorrectly transcribed as Ribrich).

Name: Mike Sestrich
Age: 50
Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: Austria [Ribrich B&M]
Home in 1920: Kansas City Ward 2, Wyandotte, Kansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1889
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Barbara Sestrich
Father's Birthplace: Austria [Ribrich B&M]
Mother's Birthplace: Austria [Ribrick Au]
Household Members:
Name Age
Mike Sestrich 50
Barbara Sestrich 36
Annie Sestrich 17
Barbara Sestrich 10
Joseph Sestrich 8
Goldie Sestrich 7
Frances Sestrich 3 [3 6/12]

Re: Mike Sestric

jasche — 2013-05-09 11:19:32Z

Where did your grandfather live before he went to Kansas?

Mike Sestric

22guerra — 2013-05-09 11:17:40Z

i need help, desperately, my grandfather mike or mik came here in 1900 and was born in 1869 and died in kansas in 1928. his wife ella followed him and brought their daughter rosie 4 years later. ella died in 1909 and is buried beneath her baby in mt. calvary cemetary. if someone could help i would appreciate it.

Re: PRPIC from Lovinac, Lika

Yuehling — 2013-05-07 14:09:11Z

Translation of Katica Sulentic's message.

Hi dear family, I accidentally saw this notice on the Internet and wish to tell you that I am a descendant of Karlo and Mate Prpic. My grandfather was Mate Prpic son of Pavao and Kata, and Martin was his grandfather and his great-grandfather was Karlo.
Mate had three daughters--Manda, Ika and Katica. I am the daughter of Ika (deceased); Manda, and Katica are living in Canada (Edmonton). I do not know exactly who you are, so let me know. We have inherited my son Tomislav's old house where they were all born. In the war [the Homeland War 1991-1995] everything was destroyed and we have little to recover. I live in Velika Gorica near Zagreb. Let me know so we can get better acquainted. I'm sorry I do not know English, so I'm writing in Croatian, hoping that somebody will translate for me. Accept warm greetings from your relatives and from your lovely Croatia. Contact: Katica Sulentic!
Karlo Prpic
Martin Prpic
Pavao & Kata Prpic
Mate Prpic
Ika, Manda & Katica Prpic
Kata Prpic daughter o Ika, married Sulentic

Re: Renka Family Croatia

Katy_lou09 — 2013-05-06 00:48:13Z

Georgia, I can't find anything other than Ellis island doc on my grandfather, he married Willie Mae Renka not sure of her maidan name and for some reason my grandmother never put my grandfathers name on any docs, all that was on them was my uncle and aunts. I also can't find any info on my dad. Such as his birth certificate. My grandfather died a month before my dad was born in 1944. My dad is still alive but doesn't know much about his dad, and he has no contact with his sisters or brothers so I've never met any of them.

Re: Renka Family Croatia

lori4209 — 2013-05-05 23:51:09Z

I wonder if we may have a connection... Catherine Renka immigrated to America along with her three children. She was married to Frank Renka who died while they were still living in Croatia. Catherine's maiden name was Adlesic, however, from my accounts of family interviews, I was given the name of "Blaz" as a family member of Catherine's (this would of been a brother-in-law?). I am wondering if the Frank Renka who immigrated with Blaz would have been the uncle of my Frank Renka as well? Where did your family migrate to once they arrived in the states?

Re: Renka Family Croatia

Katy_lou09 — 2013-05-05 22:31:19Z

Frank had a wife names RESA (from what i can read on the passenger list but she also stayed in the other country.

Re: Renka Family Croatia

Katy_lou09 — 2013-05-05 22:28:41Z

My grandfathers name on was Blaz renka, However he changed it to James "Jim" when he came to America, I'm told. The uncles name was Frank Renka. my grandfather was 18 when he came over, and Frank was 37. they both came over at the same time on November 2nd, 1907. my great grandfathers name was ANTE Renka but he didn't come over to America. Does this all come together on your side? I would love to know more about my family.

Re: Renka Family Croatia

lori4209 — 2013-05-05 22:12:42Z

What was your grandfather's name? We know from various sources that Catherine had a brother, however, I was never able to confirm his name. Do you also know the uncle's name?

Re: Jovan or Ivo Saric; Lavinac

Yuehling — 2013-05-05 15:11:17Z

There was a John Sarich who died in Granite City, IL in 1941. He had a son Tony born 1920 who died the same year there. This John was married to Kate Brinza. He was the son of Frane Saric of what is now Lovinac district, Lika-Senj, Croatia.
Little Tony was buried in St. Marks Cemetery, Granite City, Madison, Illinois and John was buried in nearby Edwardsville, probably in the Catholic cemetery there.

Re: Joseph Trinajstic

ltripovich65 — 2013-05-04 11:23:19Z

There are 111 names TRINAJSTIĆ in Croatian Phone book

I am doing genealogy research in former YU.
ltripovich65@gmail.com

Ljiljana

Re: Drakulic' family from Korenica - Crnkovic' family from Gospic

Azdealer — 2013-05-04 07:00:23Z

My paternal grandfather was Mile or Milan Drakulich born in Korenica, Croatia,Austrian Enpire circa 1885. My maternal grandfather was from Gospic, Croatia, Austrian Empries about the same time.

Re: Drakulic' family from Korenica - Crnkovic' family from Gospic

yugaya — 2013-05-03 21:39:29Z

-DRAKULIĆ family from KORENICA in the period records of Serbian Trade Association :

http://baza.privrednik.net/privrednik.php?startrow=0&t=&...

(you have to click on "Naprijed" for more pages of results)

-about this database and how to research it and interpret the results :

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/serbian-trade-assoc...

-shop owners, teachers, priests, civil servants DRAKULIĆ, same source, for the period 1889 - 1940 :

http://baza.privrednik.net/privrednik.php?startrow=0&t=&...

-JADOVNO death camp list of victims - search for:

Град/City: KORENICA
Име, презиме / Name, Surname: DRAKULIĆ

http://www.jadovno.com/imenicki-popis-pretraga.html

Age column in this listing -"Starost" is how old they were in 1941.

( click on "Sljedeća" link for more pages of results)

Families found in these original period record available online were ethnic Serbs and of Eastern Orthodox faith. The vital records they will be found in are the records of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and you will need to confirm the exact place of origin of the people you are researching to know which parish to look for. Fragments of original records are available online via familysearch.org:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-28194-31884-23...

All other church vital records of the Serbian Orthodox Church are stored in municipal offices and state archive in Croatia.

-A Guide for Researching Ethnic Serbian Ancestors from Austria-Hungary:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/documentation/guide-researching-e...

There are several other publicly available resources that you can use, but for that you need to provide details like names, birth years, emigration records.

Recommended heritage website for Korenica :

http://korenicani.com/starefotke.htm

kontakt@korenicani.com

They have in the past helped spread the searches for descendants of the same family I forwarded to them.

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"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
www.rodoslovlje.com

Re: Mikulcic/Crnkovic from Udbina/Mutilic

mmatej1303 — 2013-05-03 21:01:29Z

Hello
I see u mention Mikulcic from Udbina, my fathers uncle moved from Udbina to America, his name was Joso Mikulcic..

Re: Drakulic' family from Korenica - Crnkovic' family from Gospic

jasche — 2013-05-03 11:38:07Z

So that we can help you further please give us more information:

Who - are you researching supply a given name and surname.

What - SPECIFIC information do you need.

When - Time frame: do you have birth/death dates or at least some idea of when they lived.

Thanks.

Drakulic' family from Korenica - Crnkovic' family from Gospic

Azdealer — 2013-05-03 07:57:21Z

I am seeking any and all links to these families. Any information will be greatly appreciated. These families both settled in the Omaha, Nebraska area

Re: Mike and Ella Sestrich

22guerra — 2013-05-01 21:17:24Z

mike and ella and my grandmothers sister came from croatia or austria, back then it was considered austria and they settled in wyandotte county kansas city kansas. most of my sestrich family never left kansas and they are mostly buried in the mt calvery cemetary there.

Re: Mike and Ella Sestrich

jasche — 2013-05-01 11:24:27Z

"...he arrived in 1900..."

Where did this family come from and where did they settle?

Mike and Ella Sestrich

22guerra — 2013-05-01 11:22:57Z

i am looking for any help i can possibly get. my greatgrandfather was mike sestrich and his wife was ella, he arrived in 1900 and his wife 1905 along with daughter rosie

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

ccantrell73 — 2013-05-01 02:50:47Z

Wow. Thanks so much Robert. It is useful to know I had her maiden name spelled incorrectly.

I've seen many of your replies to other's inquiries. You have an amazingly extensive knowledge of the people & places of Croatia.

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

RobertJerin — 2013-05-01 01:02:00Z

Left to right

Entry number

Birth Date 8 April 1883

Baptism Date also 8 April 1883

Name of infant Vinko (English Vincent)
Legitimate or illegitimate birth was Legitimate
Father's name Tomo (Eng Thomas) POSAVAC, mother Bara (Eng Barbara) maiden name KAMIĆ status field worker or farmer

Religion Roman Catholic

Residence Degoj House number 4

Godparents Vinko and his wife Kata (Eng Kate) GRAHOVEC Roman Catholic also farmers

One performing the baptism Stjepan PRVIC, Priest

And the far right column is for notations, which in this case their were none. But if you look at some of the others this column was often used to record deaths and place of death. Often times deaths in America would be noted in this column In the case of the second person on this page her marriage in 1917 was noted in this column

The State Archives in Zagreb may have more extensive records for this parish, as the Family Search web page has only a fraction of all available records. Each year during our Heritage Tour we visit the archives and have found many more records there.

Robert Jerin
Croatian Heritage Museum
Cleveland Ohio

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

charles61a — 2013-04-30 19:37:55Z

Thanks for the reply.
Can you tell me what the headings mean?

Re: Nikola Lokvicic Ljubictic

jtbuddy — 2013-04-30 14:04:42Z

Hola Maria,

Gracias por tu comunicación. Mi abuelo llego de Split directamente de Croatia. Primero se fue a Buenos Aires y pronto llego a Antofagasta. Un comunidad en Antofagasta de pescadores. Mi abuelo pescaba y era Capitán de barcos. El tuvo dos hijas, mi Mama Draga y su hermana Ljubica.
Se qué tiene un hermano en Chile y tuvo hijos . Uno se llama Ivo. El hermano se llama Antoñio.

Tu abuelo llego de Split? Si es el caso, sabes el nombre de que pueblo? Busque en el pueblo de Lokvicic acta de nacimiento y no encontré nadie por el nombre.
Gracias por tu ayuda.
Cariños
Jackie Turner

Re: Nikola Lokvicic Ljubictic

marialokvicic — 2013-04-30 04:03:28Z

Hola:
Mi nombre es María Lokvicic, mi abuelo se llamaba Juan Lokvicic Biskupovic. Vivo en Río Grande, Tierra del Fuego. Probablemente sea familiar de mi abuelo.

Re: Searching records for Mijo Vulic

natvulic — 2013-04-29 00:38:06Z

Thats exactly the reason my mother said they had moved!

Re: John Ivan Ivo Patarich (Patrick in America) Anna Karena ...Please Help

yugaya — 2013-04-28 20:55:49Z

I suggest you register for the Kalocsa diocese Roman Catholic Church e-archive and research your ancestors original vital records online.

That will solve many of the dilemmas you have had, including the one on the original spelling of your grandmother's surname and her origin.

Attached here is the original birth and baptism record for IVAN PATARIĆ, year 1889., Bački Monoštor, (then) Austria-Hungary, (now) Serbia.

Parents are listed as Antonius Patarics and Maria Csizmar. (Their first names and surnames are written in combination of Latin and Hungarian language ( Joannes for Ivan is from Latin , and *cs* instead of *ć* or *č* is from Hungarian).

The ship manifests of non-Hungarians from Austria-Hungary who emigrated until 1919. featured their original first names replaced by the Hungarian ones - that is why Ivan showed up in them as János.

More on this e-archive and how to register with them you can read here:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-cat...

and here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.voj...

If you have any questions or need more help please post to Yugoslavia General board:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.gen...

Google search for surname+location shows many Patarićs still living in Bački Monoštor today - try to look for relatives who could help you with your research - best if you try to contact them via facebook :

http://www.google.hu/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q...

-att: original birth and baptism record of your grandfather, obtained via Kalocsa diocese e-archive

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"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
www.rodoslovlje.com

Re: Searching records for Mijo Vulic

lilana27 — 2013-04-28 16:24:56Z

http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šehovci_(Sanski_Most,_BiH)
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šehovci_(Mrkonjić_Grad,_BiH)

reason for emigration is simple, Bosnia does not have a lot of arable land and people for centuries have hardly lived in it, while the other side is full slavonija arable fields

Re: Searching records for Mijo Vulic

natvulic — 2013-04-28 13:47:08Z

Thanks, turns out he did know, and we were able to obtain documents from as far back as my great great grandparents.

Serbian emigrants from Croatia 1895 -1941, DREŽNICA villages

yugaya — 2013-04-28 12:20:51Z

We obtained a number of heritage books for the villages of ethnic Serbs from Croatia which detail their migrations for the period 1880 - 1950.

Currently reviewing the information for DREŽNICA area emigrants to USA and Western Europe for the period 1895-1941.

If your ancestors were from DREŽNICA, from one of these villages:

1. Debeli Lug
2. Ponorac
3. Brezno
4. Krakar :
- Kovačići
- Kojići
- Kosanovići
- Blagaj
- Ćule
- Sekulići
- Ćošani
- Ćupići
- Kelići
5. Radojčići
6. Jagetići
7. Pražići
8. Trbovići
9. Tomići
10. Vukelići
11. Drežnica (centar)
12. Radlovići
13. Selište:
- Papeži
14. Zrnići
15. Čorti
16. Nikolići
17. Lokva

and you need information please post your query with all the data you have on your ancestors on Yugoslavia General message board:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.gen...

In emigration records their place of birth/origin/residence will in most cases be listed as DREŽNICA or KRAKAR.

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.php?uid=...

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.php?uid=...

-att: from the Drežnica heritage book, emigrants to USA from the village of VUKELIĆI ( Krakar), from 1895. to 1920.

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"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
www.rodoslovlje.com

Re: Terms in Cyrillic

yugaya — 2013-04-28 11:27:06Z

"excuse me but this is extract from the register of marriages,
registers at the time, wrote that Orthodox priests were sometimes mingled cyrillic letter that is written in Croatian with Cyrillic Russian language"

The record attached to the original post is not written in any mingled language but in the official language Serbian Orthodox Church still uses - Old Church Slavonic.

The names and surnames are clearly written in modern script of the Serbian language, as this is a record from the period after the language and script reforms occurred.

Based on place of birth ( Kovačevac) and period records for the ethnic Serbs in the first half of the XX century the surname is confirmed as DOBRIČIĆ:

http://baza.privrednik.net/privrednik.php?startrow=20&t=...

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"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
www.rodoslovlje.com

Re: Terms in Cyrillic

buttergotch — 2013-04-28 02:45:52Z

Hi
Thank you so much for your help! I will get the copy again in a few days and I may ask you more questions if that is okay?
thanks
Annette

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

RobertJerin — 2013-04-27 22:56:43Z

Actually they were from Degoj, House number 4 according to Vinko's birth/baptism record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-28323-16416-37...

Robert Jerin
Croatian Heritage Museum
Cleveland Ohio

Re: Renka Family Croatia

Katy_lou09 — 2013-04-27 03:02:20Z

Hey, I have been told that my grandfather was brothers with Catherine. My grandfather came over with an uncle.

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

ccantrell73 — 2013-04-25 19:58:54Z

ccantrell73 (at) hotmail.com

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

ccantrell73 — 2013-04-25 19:58:17Z

ccantrell73@hotmail.com

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

charles61a — 2013-04-25 19:35:31Z

I have the same email, but yours has changed. Can you send me your address so I can send some pictures and other info.

Re: Gracisce (Gallignana), Pican (Pedena) and Sv.Ivanac (San Giovanni dell'Arsa) church books

incitatus — 2013-04-25 17:51:34Z

Some of the old Church books are available in the parishes of Gračišće and Pićan, not on Internet! Addresses follows:

P I Ć A N - Parish Church of Annunciation of Blessed Virgin Mary

Antun Kurelović (Parish Priest)

Address:
52332 PIĆAN kbr. 7; Istria
Croatia

G R A Č I Š Ć E - Parish Church of St. Vitus

Josip Racan (Parish Priest)

Address:
52403 GRAČIŠĆE kbr. 1, Istria
Croatia

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

ccantrell73 — 2013-04-25 16:29:34Z

Hey there! It has been a while!

Sadly, no.

Emil's son visited Croatia several years ago and visited the church in Pokupsko. He found a birth record for Vinko in 1883 that listed brothers of Tomo & Miko and Tomo & Bara as parents. I have tried to find the same record in the on-line pictures of the many Croation church record books, but I have a difficult time reading both the headings and the handwriting.

If I remember correctly, you were looking for information on your mother. Did you find what you were looking for?

Re: Tomo Posavac & Bara Kanic from Pokupsko

charles61a — 2013-04-25 16:08:33Z

It has been several years since we wrote. Have you discovered any info on Tomo?

Charles, the cousin of Eddie

Re: Mike Lucas b. 1879 Croatia

MaryErnstLarson60 — 2013-04-25 11:47:47Z

My mother, Mary Agnes Ernst, is listed as "Agnes Lucas". Her name was "Mary Agnes Lucas". Her DOB was 11/4/1921. She died 2/12/2005.

Horvat Family; Bijela Stijena

chopperc40 — 2013-04-25 01:16:16Z

I am looking for any information regarding the Horvat's from Bijela Stijena or any history on the area. Could someone please help? We have seemed to hit a wall with our ancestry search.

Re: Horvat Family; Bijela Stijena

jasche — 2013-04-24 21:20:53Z

Please post more information on your Horvat family so that we can help you further.

Who - are you researching supply a given name and surname.

What - SPECIFIC information do you need.

When - Time frame: do you have birth/death dates or at least some idea of when they lived.

Where - Where did they live and did they emigrate and if so where do they go.

Thanks!

Re: Ignac Cigic from Croatia

dcigic1 — 2013-04-21 16:53:52Z

I was also born in Martinski Vrh, now living in Canada. My great uncle was Franja, grandmother Mara, mother Anica

Gracisce (Gallignana), Pican (Pedena) and Sv.Ivanac (San Giovanni dell'Arsa) church books

drfabioc — 2013-04-19 09:00:24Z

Dear Fiends, as I'm looking for a marriage that took place about 1840-1849 I'd like to know if the marriage Church books of Gracisce (Gallignana), Pican (Pedena) and Sv.Ivanac (San Giovanni dell'Arsa) are available in Internet. In Familysearch archive I found births and marriages of Sv.Ivanac but only from 1848 onwards. Can anyone èlease give me a hint? Please send me a mail to drfabioc@gmail.com.
Thanks a lot.
Yours truly. Fabio Colombo

Re: Seeking Croatian Lulić Family information

matekrsticevic — 2013-04-19 07:29:27Z

Village Pazariste (Pazaiista)
Try Lulic and Dosen in Vancouver BC Can.
White page(tel. book)

Re: Yerka/Yarka Vidovic and Joseph Medak

matekrsticevic — 2013-04-19 07:07:34Z

Jozo Medak,
Desne -small village near Metkovic Croatia

Re: Surnames: Mrak, Novinc

maumie — 2013-04-18 20:51:30Z

I have used these records with much success. Unfortunately, not all the years are posted on familysearch.org. I was hoping to get marriage and birth records for my great grandparents. I may try writing again.

Re: Surnames: Mrak, Novinc

incitatus — 2013-04-18 18:48:00Z

On-line records at https://familysearch.org/

Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1949, Roman Catholic (Rimokatolička crkva), Ravna Gora

Event types, year range

Births (Rođeni) 1759-1812 Deaths (Umrli) 1800-1812 Marriages (Vjenčani) 1800-1805
Births (Rođeni) 1857-1884
Deaths (Umrli) 1858-1896
Deaths (Umrli) 1896-1911
Marriages (Vjenčani) 1805-1812 Births (Rođeni) 1815-1843 Marriages (Vjenčani) 1815-1848

Re: Louis and Maria (Palozza) Marmilic

cholab — 2013-04-18 15:19:42Z

I see that you updated a passenger manifest for August Prislec. I'm wondering if you are related to him. He also went by the name August Urban.

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=...

Thank you,

Mary