good day. i know this is in answer to a post from almost 15 years ago, and i dont have a ton of info, im looking for the same names u are actually. i do know where gutty is located, but im sure u have long since found the answers u were searching for. i do know we are related though, my grandmother was kate sagan, first one born in canada i believe (1906). hopefully this makes it to you, and too much time has not already elapsed...

glen kotzer