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Re: Matt and Marxer from Liechtenstein

quickmarxer93 — 2013-01-26 12:04:36Z

Is this effort still active. My grandfather, Eduart Marxer ( married Paulina Kautzky) came from Mauren, Liechtenstein in l882. He is the great grandfather of Carl Paul Marxer referenced in a 2003 response from CPM's grandaughter. She would be my third cousin,My Dad, Lawrence Marxer was brother to Carl Marxer, her greatgrandfather, all of Des Moines, but I do not know her= would like to make connect. We have some genealogy back to about 1600. There is another source of Marxers who moved from Austria to France to America On the internet, the name Is BEAUMONT family history-very complete and interesting, but can find no connection where some of them may have dropped down into Liechtenstein. Michael W. Marxer

AW: Baroness Ludmila von Falz-Fein

1_Sianza — 2012-12-05 18:44:52Z

Dear Baroness Ludmila von Falz-Fein
I know I don't have the same name as you , but my grandpa told me the story of Falz-Fein and he said that we have relatives called Falz-Fein , he also said that someone came from the USA to search in our village for relatives called Falz-Fein.And then a strange story , my boyfriend ( his last name is Fein) has something that confirms that he and his family are descendants of Friedrich Falz-Fein.They have a old family tree , documents and a lot more that confirms that they're descendants of Falz-Fein.

Yours sincerely
Sianza Zink

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

EllenElliott50 — 2012-11-01 22:16:20Z

Hi. I hadn't realized this was a thread that I had already posted on. I remember corresponding with Odette years ago.
I think the other posts on this thread may already have the info on Dominic Vogt born 1802. Dominic's parents were Christian Vogt and Mary Elizabeth Durr.

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

shalini_huntman — 2012-11-01 11:03:38Z

Odette (the original poster of this thread) is my Dad's first cousin so I would be very interested in finding out more information about my family!

Re: AW: Baroness Ludmila von Falz-Fein

Mohnbauer — 2012-04-11 19:57:20Z

EDUARD von FALZ-FEIN
*1912 Gavrilowka, Russland
lebt in Vaduz, Lichtenstein
Ehefrau/spouse:
Virginia Gurtis-Bennet / Christina Schwarz

Ludmila von Falz-Fein
*1951 Vaduz
Ehemann/spouse:
KEES VERKADA

Casmira
Verkada
*1981
http://www.stammbaum-familie-prieb.de/alexedff.htm
http://internationallife.org/baron.html

http://www.google.at/#hl=de&sugexp=frgbld&gs_nf=1&am...

german-russian Friedrich, Baron von Falz-Fein - he got nobility in 1915 by the russian Zar after visiting him in 1914. he never was married but had 2 illegitim sons. his nephew Eduard Aleksandrovich Baron of Falz-Fein (born 1912), son of his brother Alexander (1864-1919) and as head of the family today (2008) living in his villa "Askania-Nova" in the Principality of Liechtenstein, gave the entire family archive a few years ago to the Ethnographic Museum in St. Petersburg. the family of the barons of folding precision is related by marriage to the family of the writer Vladimir Nabokov.: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_von_Falz-Fein
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falz-Fein
family-tree: www.stammbaum-familie-prieb.de/Falz-Fein.pdf

http://www.google.at/#hl=de&sclient=psy-ab&q=von+Fal...

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

dngrech — 2012-04-11 03:03:19Z

We have alot of family still in Holland and in Australia. I have alot more information about his Medal, a photo of the Medal and a photo of my Great great Grandfather. Alot of other documents also, however they are still in Dutch and I'm having them translated into English.

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

EllenElliott50 — 2012-04-11 00:17:41Z

Dominic is my 2nd cousin 5 x removed. Not exactly close, but I brought back a FamlieBuch from Balzers when I visited there in 2005. Virtually everyone in the book was a 'cousin'. Its been a pet hobby see how many I can tie to those who immigrated especially to my home town of Dubuque in NE Iowa. That area was a huge draw for Liechtensteiner. Dominic's parents were Christian Vogt (1763-1842) and M Elisabeth Durr(prob Maria Eisabeth like her granddaughter)(1767-1840. Ellen eelliott@elliottadvertising.com

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

dngrech — 2012-03-30 06:47:26Z

Joseph was my great grandfather, he was one of four children to Dominic and his second wife Maria, he married her in 1863. His first wife was Johanna. Joseph married Clazina and they had 10 children one of which is my Oma, Antonio.
Dominic and Maria had the four children when he was in his 60's. Joseph, Marie, Johanna and a still born child after that, I don't know the sex of the child.
I have alot more info avail. How are you related?

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

EllenElliott50 — 2012-03-29 23:38:18Z

Hi, according to the Familiebuch, he had 2 children, Joseph and Maria Elisabeth. And that he died in 1881. That's were I lose the thread. From which do you descend or perhaps there were other children??

Ellen
eelliott@elliottadvertising.com

Re: Dominic Vogt - Balzers Liechtenstein, 1802

dngrech — 2012-03-28 10:22:15Z

He is my Great great great grandfather. My Oma was Vogt. I have a photo of him. He was Knighted for bravery for service to The dutch.

Re: the princely House of Liechtenstein

Mohnbauer — 2011-10-03 18:59:28Z

maybe some family-gossip ;-)
there was never a "king" of Liechtenstein and they also never had an own navy and they are Fürsten > Princes.
read some history:
http://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/liechtenstein/palace.ht...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princely_Family_of_Liechtenstei...
http://www.fuerstenhaus.li/en/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:House_of_Liechtenstein
http://www.liechtensteinusa.org/index.php?page=princely-hous...

it´s a very small principality.Liechtenstein is about 15 miles (24 km) long and up to 6 miles (10 km) wide. It has an area of nearly 61 square miles (160 km 2 ).
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/europe/liechtenstein/map_of...
http://geography.howstuffworks.com/europe/geography-of-liech...

found only this bishop Georg of Trient(province in Italy) from the House of Liechtenstein (died 1419), this was long before discovery of America.
http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/ADB:Georg_%28Bischof_von_Trien...

"Once she called a bishop who said that if we were truly descended from a prince that would make all the females in our family princesses for all perpetuity. "
fact is, If someone of Europes nobel houses married a non-noble, they not still princes and not longer of nobility.

Re: Matt and Marxer from Liechtenstein

peterson324 — 2011-07-24 04:04:23Z

dear julia you can get them from adrian matt e mail info@ligatech.ch he is a great grandson of gustav alfonso matt who wrote the five books i am a great great grandson of andreas matt a cousin to joseph lynn

Re: Princess of Liechtenstein

thedangerouskikistrike — 2011-06-26 15:47:15Z

Our family has a similar story (although yours sounds much more realistic. This is how it goes:
Once there was a king of Liechtenstein who had four sons. The first son was to be the next king, the second son the head of church, and the third son was to be head of the navy. But there was no position for the fourth son so he decided to come to America.
My great-great- aunt Sis remembered getting a package from Liechtenstein every year filled with silk and finery that was of no use in rural north dakota. Once she called a bishop who said that if we were truly descended from a prince that would make all the females in our family princesses for all perpetuity.
I suppose if your story is true that makes you and all your female relatives on one side honorary princesses also.
I almost don't want to know if my story is true, I fear it may be false. But if you want to find out I believe a simple google search will work. There are many sites just listing out names of all royalty of certain places.

Re: AW: Gstohl or Gstoehl

njboyd — 2011-06-09 12:23:49Z

Thank you. I was able to locate my great great grandfather in the list of people that left Liechtenstein. I will have to research further on the Gstoehl link.

AW: Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

bettyfox169 — 2011-05-20 20:40:15Z

This is a link to your family in Balzers

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I3047...

AW: Gstohl or Gstoehl

bettyfox169 — 2011-05-20 20:17:37Z

Hello,
i am from Balzers, Liechtenstein and there are a lot of Gstoehl living there. A family tree is with this link

http://histfam.familysearch.org/surnames-oneletter.php?first...

the name was written Gstoehl, Gstoel, Gstoell, Gstohl, Gstol and Gstoll. Maybe you can find Members of your family tree.

Another link is
http://www.llv.li/pdf-llv-la_auswanderer-register2007.pdf

it is the register of individuals who left Liechtenstein.

Quaderer Family still living in Lichtenstein

allez2008 — 2011-05-10 15:45:22Z

I would like to make contact with anyone from the Quaderer family, descendants of Laurentius Quaderer 1794-1878. I have lost contact with my previous contact there.

I would also like to find birth or church records for Johannes Quaderer, born 16 Jul 1929, Johann Baptiste, born 1 May 1837, Christop born 4 Jun 1830, Elisabeth, born 1 Apr 1835 & Katharina, born 16 Jun 1926. They all emmigrated to American. Thank you in advance for any help.

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

LindaSchreiber — 2011-02-02 21:52:34Z

The national library has a pdf book online that is old families of Shaan. Includes information on Anna Maria Jehle (Uehle, alt spelling) and Lorenz Quaderer. Her parents and sibs on pdf image 50. His on pdf image 69. Be sure to go all the way through this, though. There were more of each of your families. (Not so many of my Schreibers, though. Oh, well.) Have fun!

http://tinyurl.com/4jqfpql

A tiny url for
http://www.eliechtensteinensia.li/JBHV/1960/60/Schaaner-Gesc...

Linda

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

LindaSchreiber — 2011-02-02 21:42:59Z

This site gives information on the compiled family histories available in individual Liechtenstein city archives, and the names included therein. The link above the shield is an email contact for the archivist for that city. Wow!

http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/FL/flname-m.htm

Linda

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

LindaSchreiber — 2011-02-02 19:27:47Z

I found that the Archives site has a pdf of the Norbert Jansen book!

http://www.llv.li/pdf-llv-la_auswanderer-register2007.pdf

There were a number of Quaderers, and I just found out my Schreiber had a brother who later came to the US. Never knew!

Linda

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

allez2008 — 2011-02-02 18:22:49Z

Thank you. I requested information on Anna Marie Jehle, who was married to Laurentius Quarder. I do not have any infomation on her family and I appreciate any help.

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

LindaSchreiber — 2011-02-02 17:50:50Z

The address is archiv@shaan.li That is archive without the 'e'. Her name is Gina Jehle. "Is available most mornings" so it sounds like a part-time job. Or she may even be a volunteer. No clue on that. It may take some time to get a response, if we ever do, especially since we are writing in English instead of German. But it's worth a shot.

Linda

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

allez2008 — 2011-02-02 02:39:41Z

I would be interested in the address for the Shaan archivest. Thank you

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

LindaSchreiber — 2011-02-02 01:27:14Z

Thanks for the link! My husband's grandfather is Leo Schreiber, listed there. I had only seen a brief abstract on him from this book before. It is noted at the Liechtenstein site that he died in Detroit. The other details there match his ship manifest.

Is that reference to his death place actually in the book that much of this is derived from? If, instead, this was added as a note at the site, I need to talk to the person who added the death place. If it is actually in the book, please let me know. It may save me a large amount of time....

Advice more than welcome.

I have written the Shaan archivist, but it may take time before she can respond.

One more curious question.... My Schreiber's mother was Amalia geb. Jehle. The original query on this thread was about Quaderer, and his wife was Anna Maria Quaderer, geb. Jehle. The current archivist for Shaan is also named Jehle.... Is Jehle an extremely common surname around Shaan ??

LindaS

Kleese Family

jessicakleese — 2011-01-19 15:36:03Z

My name is Jessica Kleese. From what my family and relatives tell me, Kleese is German and we descend from there. It would be neat to find out who all I am related to, and if Kleese is somehow related to Klees. So far live gotten as far as James Gambal Kleese's parents Frederick Kleese and Anne Marie or Anna Marie Schmidt, I'm not sure of the spelling of her name. Other Kleese named relatives of mine are Lee Frederick Kleese, Gene David Kleese, Bryan Kleese, and Anthony Kleese.

Seeking Look Up for Anna Marie Jehle (Schaan)

allez2008 — 2010-06-30 19:54:20Z

Anna Marie Jehle was married to Laurentius Quaderer. I believe they lived in Schaan. I would liek to know who her parents were and were their any siblings, etc.

Re: Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

juanitatwu — 2009-11-13 01:17:01Z

Hello Ellen,

Thank you for that information!

I would be especially interested in additional information regarding the children of Sebastian 'Johann Georg' Frick b and Theresia Nipp. What are the birth and death dates of the children (Anna Maria, Joseph 'Xavier', Afra, Joseph Florian, Theresia, Carolina, Magdalena, A 'Maria Carolina', Alois)?

Do you have any information on the descendants of these children?

Do you have any immigration information regarding Magdalena and 'Maria Carolina?

If married, the surnames?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Juanita

Re: Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

EllenElliott50 — 2009-11-12 20:28:20Z

father: Sebastian 'Johann Georg' Frick b 20 Jan 1813, Trun, Graubünden, Switzerland, d 06 May 1911 Balzers, Liechtenstein
married 18 Aug 1834, Mäls, Balzers, Liechtenstein
Theresia Nipp b 06 Jun 1813, Balzers, Liechtenstein, d 02 Dec 1876, Balzers, Liechtenstein.
children: Anna Maria, Joseph 'Xavier', Afra, Joseph Florian, Theresia, Carolina, Magdalena, A 'Maria Carolina', Alois. (Magdalena and 'Maria Carolina poss immigrated). other all died in Balzers.

Re: Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

juanitatwu — 2009-11-12 16:58:43Z

Hello Ellen,

Yes, this is the correct Caroline Frick.
Any information regarding the names of Caroline Frick's parents and siblings would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Juanita

Re: Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

ElaineGervasi28 — 2009-11-10 20:55:24Z

On familysearch.org there is an entry for Caroline Frick born 25 Aug 1847, died 04 May 1887 in Balzers, Liechtenstein,

Father: SEBASTIAN JOANNES GEORG FRICK
Mother: THERESIA NIPP

Re: Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

EllenElliott50 — 2009-11-10 12:50:18Z

I have a Caroline Frick born August 25, 1847 in Balzers Liechtenstein, died there on 04 May 1887. Married Joseph 'Anton' Kindle on 15 Nov 1875 in Mals, Liechtenstein.
They had 6 children of whom at least 2 immigrated to US. does this sound like your family? It is difficult to make assumptions that is the same based on a name & a birth date since Liechtensteiners tended to recyle the names frequently. Ellen

Need lookup for family tree for Caroline Frick

juanitatwu — 2009-11-10 01:35:01Z

Can someone please help me to find information regarding Caroline Frick (b. 1847) of Liechtenstein? Who were her parents? What were the names of her siblings? Do any living descendants of Caroline Frick's siblings remain?

I would greatly appreciate any assistance with my search.

Thank you,

Juanita

RAPP LIECHTENSTEIN

johnunsworth74 — 2009-10-18 21:53:07Z

Looking for links to a Katharina Rapp born about 1854 in Liechtenstein who married Johann Gensler then moved to Crimea, Russia (Doren Dorf & Askania Nova)

Re: Pokorny

Reitermann — 2009-10-18 19:26:25Z

Nun, es finden sich dort alle Beamten, Diener etc. die auf den Gütern Böhmens angestellt waren. Allerdings benötigt es für die Benützung etwas Fachwissen. Außerdem sind die Originalausgaben selten und recht teuer. Vielleicht trotzdem einmal bei einem Besuch der National- oder Universitätsbibliothek danach fragen. Schlagwörter: Schematismus, Grundbesitz* (gibt es von verschiedenen Autoren für Böhmen, Mähren und Schlesien).

Re: Pokorny

Mohnbauer — 2009-10-18 19:17:50Z

Aha, interessant - das wollte ich wissen. Dankeschön.
Schade, daß ich dort niemanden suchen muß. :o)

Re: Pokorny

Reitermann — 2009-10-18 16:20:03Z

Ja, muss er. Es handelt sich im Übrigen um einen Schematismus des Grundbesitzes in Böhmen. Dort sind auch "kleinere Lichter" enthalten - bis zum Zimmerputzer.

Pokorny

Mohnbauer — 2009-10-18 16:02:21Z

Pokorny war laut Angabe im posting ein "Oberförster"(chief-forester) bei den Liechtensteins. Muß er in Chroniken aufscheinen und gibt es dazu welche?

Pokorny was stated in the posting to be chief-forester of the Liechtensteins. must he be to find in chronicels and do such chronicles exist?

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

allez2008 — 2009-03-17 21:13:19Z

Thank you to all who helped me. I learned that there were other Quaderers who came to America later but I am unsure if they are related...they emigrated to Michigan and New York.

Immigration from Liechtenstien Lookup

smgreen138 — 2009-03-16 17:51:35Z

In case anyone else is interested I found all of Jansen's book on Immigration to America online in a database on the National Archives of Liechtenstein site.

The address is:
http://www.llv.li/amtsstellen/llv-la-projekt_auswanderer/llv...

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

smgreen138 — 2009-03-16 17:47:44Z

The families are online on the National Archives of Liechtenstien database. The address for lookup is:

http://www.llv.li/amtsstellen/llv-la-projekt_auswanderer/llv...

Speaking no German myself, I ran the page through Babel Fish to understand the results

Here's what I found:
Name / Vorname: Quaderer Christoph
geboren: 04.06.1830
gestorben:
Eltern: Lorenz und Anna Maria, geb. Jehle
Wohnort in Liechtenstein: Schaan
Beruf:
Auswanderung: 1856
Auswanderungs-Ort:
Staat/Provinz:
Auswanderungsland: USA
Rückwanderung:
Ehepartner:
Kinder:
Biografie:

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

allez2008 — 2009-02-16 14:39:51Z

Thank you for your response. The e-mail I sent to you at the address provided was returned as undeliverable. Please contact me at allez2008@new.rr.com

I look forward to hearing from you.

Re: History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

EllenElliott50 — 2009-02-16 13:55:04Z

too much info to type here. contact me at eelliott@elliottadvertisng.com and I will transcribe for you. FYI correct page is 236, Volume I.
Ellen

History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to America -Look Up

allez2008 — 2009-02-15 00:26:32Z

I would appreciate someone looking up Christopher Quaderer in the book by Norbert Jansen, History of Emigration from Lichtenstein to USA. I would like the information from page 202. Thank you!

Quaderer/Quarderer - Lichtenstein to America

allez2008 — 2008-12-31 18:00:29Z

Looking fior information on 2 sisters, Elizabeth and Kathrina Quaderer/Quarderer who came to America about 1882.
Elizabeth was married to Joseph Allmann. I am trying to determine if they were married prior to her coming to America, did he come with her, and if there were any children. They were the daughters of Laurentius Quaderer and Anna Maria Jehle. Thanks.

Re: Gambles from Liechtenstein

vanessamcalonan11 — 2008-10-15 19:05:33Z

Hi Sarah, this is a transcription error, someone has typed it as Leichtenstein, when it should read Leicestershire ! I have been researching this line of Gambles and I am pretty sure that Edmunds parents were William and Elizabeth Gamble, hope this helps, Vanessa.

Gambles from Liechtenstein

flopsy000 — 2008-10-10 02:27:26Z

Hi - I have found that one of my ancestors, Emma Gamble (1859) on the 1861 census parents come from Liechtenstein (walton and Haberg also given). Edmund (1827)and Ann (1837) say they are from Newport Pagnell in earlier censuses and Edmunds' parents are Thomas and Martha (doesnt sound european - nor does the name Gamble!) Can anyone shed some light on this - I am totally baffled and unsure how to move forward with this research! Please have a look!

thanks Sarah

Schaan

thgervasi — 2008-09-29 21:11:11Z

Can any list member tell me if photos exist for any Tschetters (many of whom were landammann)in Liechtenstein?

Also, is there any evidence from where the family originally emigrated? Russia?

Spouses include: Schierser, Mockh, Walser, Hilti, Bitschi, Neglin, Wanger, Kranzin, Heuslin, Wenoweser, Hemmer, Negli, Kondradt/Conrad, Tanner, Coquard,Tuillard, Petitjean, Frick, Wachter

Re: Matt and Marxer from Liechtenstein

ffs69 — 2008-09-28 02:49:32Z

I am also a decendent for the Matt family, I live in canada and my mother is a matt. long live liechtenstein!!!wooo

Re: Gstohl or Gstoehl

njboyd — 2008-02-12 00:14:59Z

What would you like to know? What is some information about yourself?

Re: Gstohl or Gstoehl

earlwg1 — 2008-02-10 22:11:01Z

I would like to find some imfo on Gstohl that live in the USA that I haven't met yet.