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Káld

1_kerryhosz — 2013-04-23 21:42:01Z

Am looking for information on anything relating to the Hosznyak family from Káld

Re: Kalman Bartik/Hafenscher

Mighthelp — 2013-02-27 02:28:33Z

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Kalman Bartik
[Colman Bartik]
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Birth Country: Hungary
Date of Arrival: 30 Mar 1929
Vessel: Alaunia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Alaunia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Roll: T-14719

Kalman Bartik 27 yr old Hungarian, arrived in Halifax 3/30/1929. He left his father K. Bartik behind in Kormand (German name Kirment). His passport was issued 2/11/1929 in Szombathely, county seat for Vas megve/county.
http://search.ancestry.ca/iexec?htx=View&r=5543&dbid...
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Married in England???

Name: Terezia Hafenscher
Spouse Surname: Bartik
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Berkhampstead
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3034
Find Spouse: Find Spouse
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Name: Colman Bartik
Spouse Surname: Hafenscher
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Berkhampstead
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 3034
Find Spouse: Find Spouse
http://search.ancestry.ca/iexec?htx=View&r=5543&dbid...
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From late 18th century to 1918 Kormand/Körmend (official German name Kirment) Kormend jaras/district >Vas megve/county > Kingdom of Hungary, Austro-Hungarian Empire (Hapsburg Emperors) was a town of appx 4,700+ of predominantly German and Hungarian residents. The town had its own Jewish kahal and own Lutheran, Roman Catholic and Reform Parishes. Today Kormend is located in Western Hungary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6rmend

LDS has filmed following for Kormend:
RC Church Registers 1712-1895
Reform Parish Registers 1783-1895
Lutheran Parish Registers 1783-1895
Civil Registration of Vital Records 1895-1975
Civil Registration 1909-1980 (available directly on online)
Jewish Records 1841-1895

LEFT CLICK RECORDS OF INTEREST
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/results#count=20&...

Re: Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

currygirlie — 2013-02-03 14:21:26Z

Thank you. I think, based on spellings and patterns, some of the people I am looking for originated in Croatia, not Slovakia. Lucky you!

I haven't gotten to a Research Center yet and the one here is only open for limited hours so I will have to go many times to do research on even one film. But if that's what I must do, to the Research Center and beyond! *Joke from Disney movie TOY STORY*

You are my best guide! Glad I found you.

Re: Feldmann and Steiner in Szombathely

ronaldosr — 2013-01-28 23:33:44Z

I really thank you, JPmiaou. I found lots of information on FamilySearch.

Ronaldo Reingenheim
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Re: Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

JPmiaou — 2013-01-28 06:01:22Z

It's generally a mystery why stonecarvers spelled things the way they did -- some things are mistakes in carving that were simply not worth correcting (they're carved in stone, now!), while others are the result of literacy or translation issues on the order itself, and anything in between. You have to keep in mind that our modern concept of "correct spelling" for names is _very_ modern: when the majority of people are illiterate, they can't complain about how the clerk spelled their names.

You may be able to get at least one more generation by looking at the microfilms corresponding to the indexed records you've found. There should be addresses, godparents, and parental ages which can help narrow down the possibilities. Also, the microfilms include marriage and death records, not just baptisms, and if you can find the marriage, it should (theoretically) list the parents. Unfortunately, none of this further research can be done online, unless you're lucky enough (like me) to have ancestors from towns that are now in Slovakia.

Re: Can you transcribe the Hungarian entries and translate, please?

JPmiaou — 2013-01-28 05:18:15Z

There's no indication that the first child died -- these are birth records. The note just says that the birth was reported by the midwife because the father was away: _Az atya távolléte miatt a bejelentést a bába eszközölte._ "Midwife" is _bába_ (not to be confused with _baba_: "doll" or "baby"). The choice of verb here (_eszközölte_: "instrumented") is kinda weird; more standard would be _teljesítette_: "completed".

The note on the second one is fairly standard phrasing for an infant death: _Halálesete a halotti anyakönyv 21/909 száma alatt. Tobaj 1909 április hó 18. Lehner Nándor s.k. anykv._, which is "His/her death event recorded in the death register under number 21/909. Tobaj, April 18, 1909. Signed Lehner Nándor, regist[rar]." The number is generally item number slash year, with the thousands often dropped, which makes it pretty easy to find the corresponding death record, in this case on image 310 of the same batch: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-23641-22149-69...

(And yeah, I did use the info from the death record to find the birth record on image 7, if for no other reason than to try to decipher the registrar's name using more data. I'm still not certain of my reading.)

Can you transcribe the Hungarian entries and translate, please?

currygirlie — 2013-01-28 02:02:15Z

This is a snip of the civil registration birth record of a family member in Tobaj. In an effort to really understand my ancestors, I am interested in the original Hungarian language used here. Is there anyone who can transcribe the actual Hungarian words and translate any details in the deaths of these 2 infants?

The first entry says, I think, the mother's word was accepted because of the existence of a report but it continues on and I cannot make out the rest.

The second entry says the child died on 18 Apr 1909. The rest I cannot make out.

Any help out there? Thank you for any help.

Re: Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

currygirlie — 2013-01-27 21:49:51Z

Yes, that is she. Her parents had more than a few children, 4 with the same name, but I think only Josefa and Ferdinand survived.

Last week I traveled to Northampton, PA where Josefa and Anton lived and finally located her headstone. Her name was spelled with 2 fs, as in Joseffa. Do you know why that would be?

You have found records it took me weeks to find! But this is the end of what I have for the Klucharich/Klucsaritsz and Messenlehner lines. I haven't had any success going further back. There are just too many people with the same names that could be their parents' correct parents.

Thanks for helping. But I want to be as fast as you one day!

Bonnie

Re: Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

JPmiaou — 2013-01-27 21:16:14Z

I don't remember discussing Josephine back on FamilySearch Forums. Could this be her baptism?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VZ2T-NPP

name: Josefa Klucsarits
event: Baptism
event date: 22 Jul 1883
event place: Szentmiklós, Vas, Hungary
gender: Female
father: Michael Klucsarits
mother: Catharina Marakovits
line number: 57
film number: 700734
digital folder number: 4675455
image number: 326

Re: Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

currygirlie — 2013-01-27 20:47:33Z

Yes, Julia, I have already found this one and the records of his brothers. I have had no luck going back any further.

Re: Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

JPmiaou — 2013-01-27 20:33:47Z

I'm pretty sure you've already found this, but here's how FamilySearch (mis-)indexed Anton's birth record:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VZ2T-542

Re: Feldmann and Steiner in Szombathely

JPmiaou — 2013-01-27 20:08:36Z

You neglected to supply any dates, and without them, it's hard to know where to even start.

For births, marriages, and deaths after Oct. 1, 1895, vital records were kept by civil registrars. FamilySearch has images of civil registrations online; it looks like Szombathely has births through 1915, marriages through 1945, and deaths through 1975 available: https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%...

Before Oct. 1, 1895, vital records were kept by churches, so you'll need some idea of the religion your wife's ancestors followed. FamilySearch has indexes (but not the corresponding images) for Catholic and Reformed baptisms; for other religions, and to check the originals corresponding to indexed entries, you'd need to order microfilms to your local Mormons. (Check the FamilySearch website for instructions and availability.)

If your wife's ancestors were Jewish, be sure to check the JewishGen Hungary Database: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Hungary/

To aid you in further searches, a couple of corrections to spellings:
Bódog (note the direction of the diacritic; Hungarian doesn't use the other kind; as you note, this was often "translated" as Felix)
György (Hungarian for George)

Feldmann and Steiner in Szombathely

ronaldosr — 2013-01-27 19:12:35Z

I am looking for my wife's ancestors. What we know: the name of her grandparents Bòdog (Felix) Feldmann, a physician married to Ilona née Steiner. They lived in Szombathely and had two children: 1. Paul, also a physician that emigrated to India and later to London and 2. Gyiorgy that lived in Brazil.
I could not find the e-mail of the Vas County Archives.
It would be nice if somebody could help us.
Ronaldo Reingenheim - Sao Paulo - Brazil

Re: Herczeg Joseph - Magyarlak, Vas County Hungary

taltos017 — 2012-12-29 14:30:14Z

Here is a link to some Hungarian Catholic Church records on familysearch. The Catholic Church records for Magyarlak were kept in the village of Kethely.

https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&q...

Don't know if any of these are your guy.

Regards,

Chris Kovach

Re: Herczeg Joseph - Magyarlak, Vas County Hungary

SMCarter137 — 2012-12-28 12:57:02Z

His birthday was April 26th 1891. He was catholic as well.

Re: Varga - Szombathely

JPmiaou — 2012-12-27 22:08:38Z

Your question is roughly on par with "looking for Davis surname in San Jose."

The name Varga means "shoemaker" or "cobbler", and as of 2009, it was the sixth most common surname in Hungary. As a comparison, the 6th most common surname in the 1990 US Census was Davis. Szombathely is currently the 10th largest city in Hungary; again as a comparision, the tenth largest city in the US today is San Jose, California.

I'll repeat the old adage: go from the known to the unknown. Don't concentrate on surnames. Many of them are much, much too common to use as a starting point.

Re: Herczeg Joseph - Magyarlak, Vas County Hungary

JPmiaou — 2012-12-27 21:40:38Z

Some more information would be helpful: a date or age, and his religion.

Re: Herczeg Joseph - Magyarlak, Vas County Hungary

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-12-09 02:15:32Z

SMCarter137

arr. NY EI
Herczeg, Anna Magyarlak 20 1886 1906
Herczeg, Erzsebet Magyarlak 17 1888 1905
Herczeg, Imre Magyarlak, Austria 25 1887 1912
Hersig, Karoline Magyarlak, Hungary 30 1885 1915

http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/herczeg/
http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/herczeg

HERCZEG surname does show up in Magyarlak's phone book.
www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm

Herczeg Joseph - Magyarlak, Vas County Hungary

SMCarter137 — 2012-12-09 02:07:34Z

Looking for any information connecting him from Hungary.

Anton NESSENLEHNER, Josephine KLUCHARICH, Victor SZEMLER

currygirlie — 2012-09-21 14:29:29Z

How thrilled I was to read my ancestors' names in our newsletter! My mother's maternal g. great grandfather is Viktor, mentioned he was a teacher as I am, and my mother's paternal grandfather is Anton Messenlehner, mentioned he helped to rebuild the village church. He is mentioned in the Burgenland Bunch newsletter along with "the brothers Messenlehner" who emigtated to the US and entered the priesthood.

I easily admit I am a beginner but I expected to be more successful in finding information on these ancestors. I have not been able to find much information on Anton or his wife, Josephine Klucharich, except that they emigrated to Northampton, PA. I am led to suspect they were abroad (?) during the later US censuses because there is little mention of them anywhere. I have absolutely no information on the brothers, no given names, no mentions among RC church lists, nothing.

Is there anyone familiar with Anton Messenlehner (b. 1884 Punitz, Hungary)? Or Josephine b. 1884? Or the brothers? I cannot find anything to tell me who Viktor's parents are, either. Literally, I am at a standstill.

Please forward any information or advice, links, anything to me. My email is: currygirlie@comcast.net.

Many, many thanks from a frustrated, yet eager family genealogist.

Varga - Szombathely

PaulJosephVarga — 2012-06-25 11:58:58Z

Searching for Varga last name in Szombathely.

Re: Kosa

Ridektmexc — 2012-06-11 03:40:52Z

My grandfather was a Kosa which obviously gave the name to my mother. Their background is Hungarian. There are two Kosas left on my side and I am half.

Re: bajus/bajusz

PURDUES01 — 2012-03-12 21:33:12Z

hi..my grandmothers name was mary bayjusz..bayus . she was born 1889 i believe. she came here in 1907 and married my grandfather, john bodnar wargo....varga/warga.etc. in homestead pennsylvania. i dont know if we are same family or not.

Re: Looking for records on Nemeth family in 1880-1890 Vas.

taltos017 — 2012-03-01 15:31:52Z

Apparently, he also had a brother Frank:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XDD5-6M8

If you know what religion the family is, you may be able to rent microfilmed church records from your local Family History Center. The Roman Catholic and Evangelical Church records are in Kemeneshogyesz:

https://familysearch.org/search/search/library_catalog#searc...

Regards,

Chris Kovach

Re: Looking for records on Nemeth family in 1880-1890 Vas.

AmandaMeganKoehnlein — 2012-03-01 03:35:49Z

Frank & Lizzy or Elizabeth or however its spelled still lived in Hungary at the time and I need to find out where they lived and other family members they had.

Looking for records on Nemeth family in 1880-1890 Vas.

AmandaMeganKoehnlein — 2012-03-01 03:34:19Z

My great-grandfather Joseph Nemeth was born in Magyargencs, Vas, Hungary (which google search came up as Veszprem County) on July 28 1883. I do know he had a brother named Alex Nemeth Parents were listed as Frank Nemeth & Lizzy Nagy on his Marriage licence. They both lived in Steubenville Ohio USA.
Im still trying to find what port he came in from I have 2 leads if he did leave from Hamburg Germany back in 1906-07
If I can find his birth record and record of his parents along with any family members it would be really nice.
Additional information his brother Alex was born in 1882.

Kalman Bartik/Hafenscher

hbartik — 2012-01-26 00:21:45Z

I am looking for ancestors of my father Kalman Bartik born 1901 and Mother Therea Hafenscher born around 1910 both born in Hungary. Mom might have been from Baja county or city. Had a brother Ferenc and a sister Bona Imre. No idea which part my father might have come from. Believe he had 3 brothers one might have been call Joseph. He left Hungary 1928/29. Mom might have left around 1940. Any info would be appericated

Harry Bartik

Change of Parish Districts to Civil Registration Districts

thomashoward10 — 2011-12-09 05:51:35Z

Vas County
Rabagyarmat, Rabaszentmihaly, Ivanc Parishes.

Note the above Parishes change districts when Civil Registration was introduced in 1895 for some time frames.

Rabagyarmat records can be found in Csorotnek Reg. District to 1950 with the exception of the 1901 - 1906 where their found in the Rabaszentmihaly Reg. District.

Rabaszentmihaly records can be found in Csorotnek Reg. District 1896 -1901

Ivanc records can be found in Csakany Reg. District 1896 - 1906

Re: Papp & Nagy from Nadasd, Vas, Hungary

sacota — 2011-11-25 23:49:16Z

I know of a Patty Papp in southern Calif. near L.A. Maybe she knows something.

Re: Üveghuta near Sárvár in Vas?

fritzkoe — 2011-11-21 04:06:56Z

The official records for Üveghuta were in the Roman-catholic parish of Léka (Lockenhaus) until civil recording took over from October 1895 onwards which was also in Léka. The scan of Joseph Stifter's birth certificate confirms the parish as Léka (see the word "lékai")

LDS has microfilms of the duplicates of the Roman-catholic and civil records of Léka. The original records extend further back than 1828 but can only be viewed at the parish (or at the diocesan archive in Eisenstadt).

Since 1921, Glashütten and Lockenhaus are no longer in Vas county of Hungary, but in Burgenland, Austria. Please take a look at the web site of the Burgenland Bunch (http://www.the-burgenland-bunch.org/homepage.htm). Go to surnames and you'll see that the name Stifter is researched by quite a few members, including two with ancestors in Glashütten. Most of the other places are in the general region of Lockenhaus.

End of reply.

The following message is for Joseph Kupan and is unrelated to this thread. Joseph, could you please take a look at the recent message thread on the board for Burgenland, related to Töröktopolya. Never mind it was the wrong board. My post is the most recent one. It would be much better if you could attempt an interpretation of the scans there. Regards, Fritz

Re: Üveghuta near Sárvár in Vas?

KUPAN — 2011-11-20 09:02:42Z

Hello,
As you may noticed it on the documents, the birth place,

on the "Bizonyítvány" = Certificate (stone mason) after Üveghuta "a/L" means at Langeck,

on the "Községi bizonyítvány" = Municipal Certificate (kind of Work Permit) in front of Üveghuta "Lang." also means Langeck.

Both places are the same Langeck-Üveghuta/aka Hosszúszeghuta, Vas county, Hungary until 1920, today called Glashütten bei Langeck im Burgenland, in Austria.

Sárvár, Vas County, Hungary where Jozsef Stifter learned his trade and got work certificate is not that far, albeit now is in different country.

Hope this helps,
Joseph

Re: Üveghuta near Sárvár in Vas?

ZlaticaBeca — 2011-11-19 22:21:56Z

maps to find the Uveghuta on :
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/index.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/moterkep/mb.htm

http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp
Parádsasvár, Üreghuta, Üveghuta populated place 47°55' N 19°59' E E M U G Hungary 50.4 miles NE of Budapest 47°30' N 19°5' E
Üveghuta section of populated place 46°12' N 18°36' E E M U G Hungary 92.6 miles SSW of Budapest 47°30' N 19°5' E

Re: Üveghuta near Sárvár in Vas?

ZlaticaBeca — 2011-11-19 21:10:06Z

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vas.jpg
placenames in Vas megye. http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g163.shtml
Langecki-Üveghuta, Szalónaki-Üveghuta,

http://homepages.bmi.net/jjaso/

http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/stifter

Üveghuta near Sárvár in Vas?

tommycw1 — 2011-11-19 20:13:27Z

Hello,

I have some original documents that we found in the back of my grandma's drawer from my G.G.Grandfather. It appears to be a birth certificate, apprentice papers and some kind of ID. I've attached a scan of them. They are titled:

1. Keresztlevél
2. Bizonyítvány
3. Községi Bizonyítvány

What I'm looking for is the place that he was born. It seems to be on all of these papers "Üveghuta". They all also seem to be from Sárvár, Hungary. I'm wondering if Üveghuta was once some little small village in the area of Sárvár?

Any information on this area or where Üveghuta might be would be greatly appreciated.

Re: SZUKICS, WRANITZ, FABIAN, WURST, KALGLOWITZ

elainefshelly — 2011-11-10 00:07:30Z

My grandfather came from Kondorfa, Hungary.

Re: Looking for Ferenc Moricz , Halogy , Vas

Spiceweasel69 — 2011-07-16 21:49:32Z

Hello. As you know, i must be very careful as i must make sure that we are talking of the same man. I must also ensure that you are genuine. Do you have any information on him that can help me identify if we are related? Do you know where he lived in Scotland, his Date of Birth, or some information i can verify?

Look forward to hearing from you

Re: Looking for Ferenc Moricz , Halogy , Vas

passszofi — 2011-07-15 17:01:53Z

Szia! A keresésedet most találtam meg. Móricz Erzsébet vagyok. Halogyon,Magyarországon lakom! A nagyapád lánya vagyok. A fenti E-mail címre várom a jelentkezésedet!
Remélem, válaszolsz!

Re: Father, Sandor Mogor

akpike — 2011-06-28 01:23:02Z

I know it has been many years since you posted your enquiry, but I have just started looking for my family history and saw your post.

My grandfather was Ferenc Mogor, born 1891 in Magyar Gencs. His father was Ferenc Mogor and his mother was Eszter Markuis. Due to the common last name and birth location, I am wondering if my grandfather and your father were realted.

If you get this message, and have any ideas I would appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks
Karen

Re: Grandfather, Ferenc Mogor

akpike — 2011-06-19 19:06:00Z

Hi Tamas,

Thank-you so much for your reply and willingness to help me. If you don't mind, could you send the file to my home email: allan.pike@rogers.com

Thanks again, your help is much appreciated,

Karen

Re: Grandfather, Ferenc Mogor

mogort — 2011-06-19 15:31:18Z

Dear Karen,

I have found your grandfather in my database. He had 4 sisters and 1 brother. I can send you an Excel file about this familytree.

Tamas

Re: Csanadi and Geroly (Abert)

jmabonyi93 — 2011-05-22 20:11:42Z

Hello Liz: That Wilma Abert ia also referred to as Albert is interesting. We have a "Family name History" for Abert and Albert is one variant. We have been trying to attach a copy as a file without success. I will post the information undrer the surmname Abert in a few days. I do not know much about my grandfather, Abert Gyula Sr. (1872-about 1948). I met him only twice as a very young child. He was married twice, first to Irka (Ilona)Barabas, my grandmother, who died young in 1908. They had two sons, Erno, I think and Gyula, my father. There were 3 more children from the second marriage. My father and some of his brothers changed the surname to Abonyi, but my grandfather died as Abert. I understand that some documents, especially handwritten ones showed variations in spelling. Thank you and good luck with your search as well. Regards, Julius Abonyi

Re: Csanadi and Geroly (Abert)

johnfriedmann1 — 2011-05-19 01:01:21Z

To Julius Abonyi
re: Wilma Abert or Albert as had been written in some documents, may not be related to your grandfather. She was the
second wife of John Geroly. Unfortunately, I did not know all of her siblings or immediate family. She was related to the Bendes family as well. I hope this helps in your search, as I and other members of my family will always welcome any news of our family. Thank you, Liz

Re: Csanadi and Geroly (Abert)

jmabonyi93 — 2011-05-17 22:37:52Z

Hello Elizabeth Friedmann: I am from the Abert family, from Kamon, near Szombathely in the Vas Megy region. My grandfather Gyula was married first to Irka(Ilona) Barabas. My father, also Abert Gyula,(1907-1943) was from that marriage. Could my grandfather be related to your grandmother Wilma Abert? My father and some of his brothers changed their surname to Abonyi, but my grandfather died as Abert Gyula Sr. Presently, I live in southern Ontario, Canada with my family.
Yours truly,
Julius Abonyi

Re: Grandfather, Ferenc Mogor

akpike — 2011-05-05 23:50:53Z

My grandfather is Ferenc Mogor (b. 1891)in Mikalyhaza District, and grew up in Gencs, Vas Megye. His parents were Ferenc Mogor (b.1862) and Eszter Markuis (b.1865).
Would you have any information?
Thanks

Karen

Re: Family search

michaelragendorfer1 — 2011-03-28 11:48:25Z

Hello
Seen that message today for the first time. I live in Vienna and I'm a real "Ragendorfer". And I'm looking very hard for my ancestors too. At least now I found someone else.
My Great Grandfather was Sandor Ragendorfer born 13.1.1878 in Hungary I suppose, cause that's what my late granpa told me. Sandor was married to Anna (Simetsberger) born 9.6.1878. They both died here in Vienna.
Best regards from
Michael

Re: EDVI, Kalman

suzyedvi — 2011-03-27 05:00:49Z

Hello there, I lost my father last year and am now trying to find my ancestery as well could you forward me what you found out

Re: MESICS - IGI

ZBeca — 2010-07-17 00:15:10Z

www.surnamenavigator.org

Re: MESICS - Radixforum

ZBeca — 2010-07-16 23:30:48Z

http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/mesics

Re: MESICS in Vasszentmihaly

ZBeca — 2010-07-16 22:19:41Z

Mesics Károlyné
Vasszentmihály 9953, Fő utca
Telefon: (94) 438-501

www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm

Re: MESITS, DOMOTOR, BODO

ZBeca — 2010-07-16 20:43:53Z

Church records is the way to go for ancestral information.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermain...= but only civil and not going far enough.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermain...=

MESITS could be MESICS.
first name sites:
http://web.archive.org/web/20051128070722/www.fam.aust.com/t...
http://www.progenealogists.com/hungary/names.htm