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New Budapest database

kika3_au — 2013-06-17 01:34:16Z

The Ervin Szabo library in Budapest has a digitised database that is searchable containng homeowner lists, government gazettes, and trade directories for Budapest. Access the database here:
http://db.fszek.hu/cimtar/

Enter your surname in the top left had field marked 'szavak'. I dont think acceents are essential.

If you paste the URL into GoogleChrome you should get automatic translation.

Re: Schillinger Berger from Cegléd

StephenSchmideg — 2013-06-06 05:19:22Z

If you have a problem with Erzsi's English let me know.

Re: Schillinger Berger from Cegléd

catpaw — 2013-06-03 22:26:14Z

Outstanding! If you are sure she won't mind. I'll do this tonight.

Re: Schillinger Berger from Cegléd

StephenSchmideg — 2013-06-03 22:25:10Z

Please write to my friend Elisabeth Berkes berkesgrosser@web.de the Bergers are her family and she can help.

Re: KAVASI

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-06-01 05:12:53Z

Did you find any KAVASIs in Boghis's phone book? If yes, you might consider sending a letter.

Consider contacting this researcher in Romania Janos KOCS
www.erdelygen.ro, www.erdelygen.uw.hu

KAVASI

psmkov — 2013-05-31 16:21:35Z

LOOKING IN BOTH HUNGARY AND ROMANIA PHONE BOOKS THERE ARE MANY KAVASI, BUT I DONOT KNOW WHO WOULD BE RELATED TO ANDRAS, MANY ON FACEBOOK ALSO, BUT I GUESS ITS BEEN A HUNDRED YEARS AND MAYBE HIS FAMILY HAS DISSAPEARED OR JUST BEEN FORGOTTEN BY NOW, I HAVE ONLY COME ACROSS I KAVASI THAT SEEMED TO CARE ABOUT FAMILY HISTORY BUT HIS HAD BEEN CHANGED FROM KAVASSY TO KAVASI OVER THE YEARS, I EVEN EMAILED TO RECORDS DIVISION IN SATU-MARE AND IT SAID THAT MY GRANDMOTHERS LAST NAME WAS LANTIOSIU WHICH DOSNT EVEN EXIST, MAY THEY SPELLED IT WRONG IN ROMANIAN TO ENGLISH THANK YOU FOR HELPING

Re: searching for relatives

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-30 23:51:21Z

You're welcome.
Have you posted on Romania's board?
how about www.radixforum.com
Romania's phone book was at www.whitepages.ro to see if any family still there.
You might need to hire a researcher in Romania as most likely no church records in LDS [Family History Center] but take a look anyway.
Take a look in Hungary's phone book as well.

http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/kavasi/
http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/kavassi
http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/kavassy/
http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/kavasy

Re: searching for relatives

psmkov — 2013-05-30 22:34:56Z

i guess what i am trying to find is who was related to andras kavasi and where are they now, i was told he had left behind a big family and that his mother lived to be very old possibly 96,

Re: searching for relatives

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-30 18:20:42Z

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.hungary.pest/...

searching for relatives

psmkov — 2013-05-30 17:00:22Z

I have been trying to research my family for years with no luck, my grandfather was andras kavasi, possibly kovasi, came to canada nov 1912 port of montreal, left family behind in csengerbajos szatmar county hungary, now boghis romania, many i this area still today and throughout hungary, father was george , mother was julia rance, others went to america and johan kavasi to canada, i have sent to many on facebook but nobody seems to care or know anything , is their anybody in this world that might know what ever became of this family or relatives, any help would be appreciated, thanks phillip kovosi-kavasi

Re: Bagoly

JPmiaou — 2013-05-22 15:52:31Z

(What *is* it with families named Bagoly ["owl"] naming their sons Béla? It seems like every second or third occurrence of the surname is attached to this given name...)

There was a Bagoly Béla living in southern California, but he was born in the 1920s, so it can't be the right guy. It appears his family is/was mostly in Canada: www.legacy.com/obituaries/edmontonjournal/obituary.aspx?n=be...

According to Hungarian Wikipedia, there was never a player surnamed Bagoly on the Hungarian water polo team at any Olympics, World Championships, or European Championships (hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyar_f%C3%A9rfi_v%C3%ADzilabda-v%C3%A1logatott). I did not find an equivalent list of track & field athletes, so I don't know if there was a pole vaulter named Bagoly.
The Olympic Games in the 1930s were not in France; did you perhaps mean that he played for the French?

Do you have any idea *where* he was born? Civil registrations are available online at FamilySearch, but they're not indexed. (They're not complete, either, but 1913 is public domain at this point, so you shouldn't encounter privacy-law-related obstacles.)

Re: Bagoly

JPmiaou — 2013-05-22 15:51:56Z

The address is probably József körút ("Joseph Circle/Beltway").

Note that the old-style spelling is Ferencz, not Ferencs -- 'cs' is like English 'ch' (as in 'church'), but the sound at the end of the name is like 'ts' in 'cats', which is modernly written as just 'c' but used to be 'cz'.

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-20 22:37:30Z

Found out that Bela born 1888 parents were Ferencs (Francis) Bagoly married Rosalie Baliant (Balint). Now to find out more about when and where born and their children. On Radix forum Bela's brother might have been Francis, born 1881, twins Panni and Arpad, etc. Also trying to find out who Ferencs parents were. So many Bagolys with the same name.

Thanks for your help.\Someone did find and send me their marriage record from the radix list.

Parents of Ettelka Angyal were Adolf Angel and Regina schaffer. List Budepest Fossef Koret 81 could not read correct spelling.

Re: Bagoly

JPmiaou — 2013-05-19 23:13:09Z

The indexed Reformed baptisms on FamilySearch only have one Béla Bagoly; the date works for Bela Sr. (died 1969, father of the one born in 1913):

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFRQ-2KB
Name: Béla Bagoly
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 21 Oct 1887
Event Place: Saáp, Bihar, Hungary
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Béla Bagoly
Mother's Name: Szeréna Kiss
Reference ID: 8
Line Number: 35
Digital Folder Number: 004707789
Image Number: 00606
GS Film number: 632015

Re: Bagoly

JPmiaou — 2013-05-19 22:48:29Z

Armed with the district number/name, it only took about 20-30 pages of browsing to find the 1913 birth:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-33847-6480-20?...

Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun - Budapest (VIII Kerület) - Births 1913 - Image 1283 of 1695

No. 3735
Date recorded Jun 9, 1913
Date of birth Jun 2, 1913
Child: Béla, boy, Reformed [aka Calvinist]
Parents: Béla István [Stephen] Bagoly, merchant; Etelka Angyal, Budapest VIII. Rökk Szilárd Street 17
Religion Reformed, Jewish
Age 25, 23
Remarks: the mother converted to the Reformed faith per affidavit no. 1192/1913 issued by the pastor of the Budapest Reformed Church dated Aug. 22, 1913.
(thereby the child became Reformed) (Jun 21, 1925) Text in this section in parentheses is erroneous. Jun 21, 1925.
---

I think the remarks section just means that the mother converted shortly after the birth, but the child was entered with his father's religion in the first place, so a remark about the mother's conversion affecting the child's religion was incorrect.

Finding the marriage of Etelka & Béla would take some dedicated paging through the records at FamilySearch. Post the question in the Radix forum -- there are people there with access to some indexed records for Budapest.

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 21:31:09Z

Almost nothing on the net on the family, the only thing I was able to found so far is the mention of the oldest Bela and wife Etel Angyal purchasing the notable Kanya-villa in the vacation spot Balatonalmadi by the popular Lake Balaton: http://wiki.strandkonyvtar.hu/index.php?title=K%C3%A1nya-vil...

"1919. április 5-én dr. Rada István eladta 110.000-koronáért a nyaralóját Bagoly Béla és neje, Angyal Etel budapesti lakosoknak úgy, hogy 50.000,- korona zálogjog megmaradt a nevén. Nyilvánvalóan csak később került sor a vételár teljes kiegyenlítésére, amit a teherlapi törlés igazol."

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 21:17:36Z

Joyce,
Forgot to enclose the website of the Jozsfvaros = (Joseph town Budapest VIII-th District) Reformed Church:
http://www.saletrom.net/index.html

Also, on RADIX Bagoly Forum, Eva Bagoly has a later post in 2011, in it she is listing Bela Bagoly actual street address in Budapest: Gyulai Pal utca=street, it's in the VIII District also.
Joseph

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 21:16:40Z

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 19:33:06Z

You're welcome,
Bp. Józsefvárosi Református Egyházközség

Address:
Salétrom utca 5.
Budapest
1085

Telefon: +36/1 333-11-18

E-mail:
jozsefvaros@peszak.hu

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-18 19:14:06Z

How would I get the address of the Reformed Church? I intend to reply to Eva's posts soon.

Joyce

Thanks

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-18 19:12:28Z

I even search family.org and Hungaria records but did not find this. THANKS SO MUCH. I will keep you in mind for help
I was told by Bela's son Al that Bela b 1913 was an attorney, professor , started his own school , was wealthy, a was a pole vault and water polo for the European olympics
during the 1930's (took place in France I think). When he escaped in 1947 he had to leave behind everything including child and wife. She was imprisoned for 6 months. Child was
secretly sent to Austria where Bela escaped to. She later escaped and was able to joined them. They lived in Austria for about 3 or 4 year and came to America about 1951 . They wwere sponsored by a couple who lived in Youngstown, Ohio. Later the family moved to California where Bela died .
Joyce

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 19:06:22Z

Hi Joyce,
I found the info in Eva Bagoly 2008 post in the RADIX Bagoly Forum, you should answer her post, she'll be notified.

Regarding the details of his life, for start I would recommend to contact the Budapest District VIII Reformed Church where he was a presbyter if they have any memories of him and his son Bela.
Regards,
Joseph

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 18:49:30Z

Jac1039,
Further searching, FamilySearch.org funeral notices of Hungary, found the oldest Bela funeral notice from 1969, he was a retired businessman, Presbiter of Budapest District VIII, his grandson Bela wife Beverly Lowell:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11613-9878-4?cc...
Let me know if have any question,
Joseph

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-18 18:34:26Z

YEs this help. I believe they must be a family connection. Where did you get the info of the part Bela lived in? It would be great to find out more information on his life in Hungary being that he was a well known person.

Joyce

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-18 18:32:42Z

Re: Bagoly

KUPAN — 2013-05-18 17:47:57Z

Jac1039,
I searched RADIX Bagoly forum and I found Jac39 post from 2006.
At the same forum in a more recent post in 2008 by Bagoly Eva seems looking for the same family. The related section says the family originated Brasso, today Brasov, Romania.
Eva g.father Ferenc B. born 1881, lived in Simontornya, Hungary. If I understand correctly, one of Ferenc brother was Bela who lived in Budapest District VIII, his wife was Etelka Angyal, their son Bela was born 1913, whose son born in the 1940s, moved to America, his wife of Italian descent.
Hope this helps,
Joseph

http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/bagoly

"Béla felesége Angyal Etelka Budapesten a .8. kerületben :1 Bagoly Béla nevü fialived in Budapest1913-ban született Budapesten Neki is 1 fia él most is Amerikában az õ felesége olasz származású.40es években született.Nekik is vannak gyermekeik de nem tudjuk."

Re: Bagoly

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-15 14:39:37Z

You're welcome Joyce.
Have you requested his SS-5Form - social security numbers?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b...

http://www.archives.gov/research/naturalization/naturalizati...
http://www.genealogybranches.com/naturalization.html

http://genforum.genealogy.com/how-to/

http://www.geneasearch.com/beginner.htm

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rwguide/

http://www.tedpack.org/goodpost.html

Zlatica

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-15 14:31:07Z

They settled in Youngstown Ohio in 1951. Then moved to California. So I do not know where he applied for citizenship. I will have to find out more information if his son can remember . His son Bela came to USA when he was 8 years old . All important papers were thrown out by his father.

Thanks,
Joyce

On his manifest papers of the ship he came over on there was not a place listed where he came from.

Re: Bagoly

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-05-15 14:11:17Z

jac1039
Have you considered requesting his SS-5Form? He would have put down his place of birth and parents names.

Bela Bagoly
Born: 1913 Died: 1978
State of last residence: California
State issued: Ohio

Most likely he was naturalized citizen so than the intent & petition could provide some more information.

http://www.radixforum.com/surnames/bagoly/
http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/bagoly

Re: Bagoly

Jac1939 — 2013-05-15 11:38:56Z

Bela Bagoly was born in Hungary the PEST side in 1913. His son said that his father threw away all his metals, important papers, etc. He escaped Hungary in 1947 . All I know from what he said was that his mother was in prison for 6 months. Their son was secretly sent to be with his father. Bela's father was also Bela and remained in Hungary. They lived in Austria for about 3 or so years and than had a sponsor from Youngstown Ohio to bring them over to USA in 1951.

I will try to find out more.

Bagoly

jac1039 — 2013-05-13 14:59:01Z

I am researching my son in law's family Bela Bagoly.

Bela Bagoly was born in Hungary June 2 1913 to Bela Bagoly and ???. He was a lawyer, professor and own his own school. From what I gathered he was very wealthy. Bela also was on the European Olympic team during the 1930's in France etc as pole vault and water polo..He married Ibolya Vargas around 1942-1945. They had a son Bela born Dec 1942. They lived in Pest part.
Around 1947 he escape to Austria and later his wife and son escaped. Bela left everything behind. In 1951 the family immigrated to New York on the General R M Blatchford. They had a sponsor from Youngstown Ohio and that is where they settled.

Any information about this family would be appreciated.

Re: Dabas, Ocsa, Ujhartyan

JMike108 — 2013-05-08 11:44:25Z

Thank you very much for your reply. This information about Soroksar is very helpful and I'll order the microfilm from Familysearch.

I had already checked the JewishGen Hungary Database but, so far, it doesn't have any records from the towns included in the Soroksar congregation.

I do have another question... I see that the Soroksar records start in 1850, do you know if there are pre-1850 Jewish records?

Re: Dabas, Ocsa, Ujhartyan

JPmiaou — 2013-05-07 22:48:55Z

In the 1877 gazetteer, all three towns list Soroksár as the nearest Jewish congregation. FamilySearch has one microfilm covering births, marriages, and deaths 1850-1895 for Soroksár, but they don't have it indexed or otherwise available online -- you have to order it to your nearest FamilySearch Center (aka your local Mormons).

Have you checked the JewishGen Hungary Database? They don't list Soroksár for the birth/marriage/death databases, but it's possible that they're going by modern jurisdictions, under which it's district 20 of Budapest.

Dabas, Ocsa, Ujhartyan

JMike108 — 2013-05-07 15:58:30Z

Hello,

Could anyone tell me if there are pre-1895 Jewish vital records available for the towns of Ócsa, Dabas and Újhartyán, all of them belonging to Pest county?
I tried to look for them on Familysearch but it seems they don't have records for these towns...
Thank you for your suggestions!

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

mloncaric13 — 2013-05-05 12:50:58Z

Hi Joseph -- just sent you a message through the message center (didn't see your email address); hope that works!

M

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

KUPAN — 2013-05-05 06:38:16Z

Hi Meredith,
No fees at the Archives for this type of research, my time is free, very minimal charges for copies, but not allowed to discuss the amount here, that's why I wrote earlier to contact me thru my posted email, or the message center, it's important. The microfilms are not digitized, basically they're photographing the subject frame(s) and printing it, then can scan it, email it if needed, either way cost pretty much the same if I got the paper copies and do the scanning at home.
Both "Ritzek" and "Kubiczek" are transcribing, the first by the FamilySearch volunteers, the later by me, so after I enlarge and study further both the 1871 and 1855 documents, it could end up something between the two.
Waiting for you email, next week I'm planning be back at the Archives.
Regards
Joseph

Czech Immigrants in Budapest

mloncaric13 — 2013-05-04 23:37:09Z

I wonder if there are any existing travel records for in-coming immigrants to Hungary, specifically Budapest? My relative, Wenczel Balada, immigrated to Budapest from Pardubice, Czechoslovakia sometime in the late 1850's or 1860's. He married in Budapest, and his first child was born in 1872, so his immigration was prior to that date.

Is there any way to track his journey? Would he have had to "register" in Hungary or Budapest? Are there records available? I am limited to online research, as I cannot travel to Hungary.

Any ideas or direction would be much appreciated. I have a few other details about him, if that would be helpful, but otherwise nothing. Thank you for any information on this, or on the Balada family in general.

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

mloncaric13 — 2013-04-30 17:00:53Z

Hi Joseph --

Your kindness continually brightens my day! You're very good (don't be too modest!) to expend time and effort and the genuine interest I feel you show in helping others find their families, however long ago (and far away!) they may be.

Now, how do I help in the process of ordering photocopies (or, if lucky, digitized images) or the records from the Archives? Surely they'd need me to pay them at least a nominal fee -- or are they free records? Please just let me know what I am to do in the whole process -- I'm so excited that you've found them.

Ah, yes: a year or two ago, I tagged the Maria Maszlonka birth record you cite, with Michael Maszlonka and Catharina Ritzek. The location seemed perfect, though I thought she would perhaps be a bit young to be married and having her first child (Paulina) in 1872. But -- behold! -- we know from the marriage information that Maria was indeed only age 16 at her marriage, which makes the September 15 1855 baptism date a very probably match.

When I read the information about Maria's parents yesterday, my heart sank a little, as "Ritzek" and "Kubiczek" are different names (given that Catharina and Katalin are the same). But -- as you say -- there's a lot of variation with transcription. Kubiczek would be correct and "Ritzek" was transcribed. K and R can be confused, yes; and the "ubi" if scribbled could be anything, even "it"; and it is significant that the endings are the same. Listen to me diagnose the writing! Ha, ha.

Well, please keep me posted on what I can/should do. I have to say, the Baladas over here are intrigued with what you're uncovering! Thank you, thank you!

Take care --

Meredith

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

KUPAN — 2013-04-30 06:40:41Z

Dear Meredith,
You're very welcome, you too kind, I was an immigrant myself, so I can imagine the feeling, that's why I keep helping others.
I can order the photocopies from the Archives, will see if they can do it in digitized form. When I do that I'll also order the birth record film of Maria Maszlonka shown below. I have a feeling she is the right person, the age is perfect, the reason for the mothers name differences Katalin Kubiczek vs. Catharina Ritzek could be the hard to read quality of the older records.
Greetings,
Joseph

Parents: Michael Maszlonka, Catharina Ritzek
Name: Maria Maszlonka
Event Type: BAPTISM
Event Date: 15 Sep 1855
Event Place: Sarlósboldogasszony, Budapest, Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun, Hungary

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

mloncaric13 — 2013-04-30 00:00:00Z

Hi Joseph --

I have to tell you: I am speechless! I am completely grateful for your time and generosity. I can't believe you took such a kind interest in my family and helped me reach information that I never would have been able to. From all of us here in the US: thank you! You have helped re-connect family ties that were long lost.

We had no idea of "Vincent" Balada's parents, nor anything at all about Maria Maslonka. Now I have their parents' names AND their marriage place and date. It's incredible! I am sure you think I am crazy, but to an immigrant family who knows very little about the past, this is huge. You've provided me with more areas/people to research and gather back into the family history.

Is there a way to order photocopies or digital copies of some of the records from the Budapest Archives? I would love to try to do that, at least with the marriage record. If you could please tell me where to go, how to access it, that would be great.

Joseph, I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate the time and effort you've put in to help. Simply: thank you.

Take care --

Meredith

Re: SMOLIGA, Margaret 1908-2004

JoyceODonnell44 — 2013-04-29 21:30:08Z

Mary,
Don't know if you completed this post or not. At any rate, I am trying to find a connection between my great grandfather, Hubert Mayer, and a Michael Smoliga. My grandfather entered through Ellis Island in 1904 and his papers state that he was going to stay with his cousin, Michael Smoliga in Trenton, NJ. I have since found a copy of my father's baptismal certificate and a Father Albert Smoliga performed this. At that time my father's family lived in Roebling, NJ. I believe they ran a restaurant and inn. My father Charles was the son of Benjamin Lockyer and Ilona "Helen" Mayer. She was born in Budapest in 1897. My grandmother also had a brother named Karl (Karoly) who married an Anna Sabo in New Jersey. Father Albert Smoliga also performed this service. If any of this links up to any family information you may have, I'd love to compare notes.
Joyce O'Donnell

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

KUPAN — 2013-04-29 19:07:18Z

Hi Meredith,
I found all the baptizing records and the marriage record.
On all records Wincze Balada birth place is Pardubitz, Czech, resident of Buda-Ujlak with various addressees. Ujlak / Buda-Ujlak / B.Ujlak was a village until 1873, than part of Budapest District II and III: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Ajlak_%28Budapest%29
Parents name on the m.record Wincze Balada and Erzsebet Kruperez, also residents of Buda-Ujlak.
Maria Maslonka born in Buda-Ujlak, parents also residing there, Mihaly Maslonka and Katalin Kubiczek.
The marriage took place on July 30th 1871, ages 29 and 16.
If want to order photo copies of the records write me an email.
Greetings,
Joseph

Re: SMOLIGA, Margaret 1908-2004

maryannhull0 — 2013-04-28 20:46:23Z

Hi I am Michael Smoligas great granddaughter! Julius is the son of Michael and Anna ...my grandmother was Julius sister Anna ...

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

mloncaric13 — 2013-04-22 13:49:11Z

Hi Joseph --

Yes - Sam sort of paved the way to America, and the brothers joined him later. Of the three, only Janos lived a long life and saw his grandchildren. At least two of the Balada sisters married in Budapest (I have their records), but I don't think any of the family in Hungary saw the 3 brothers again.

Thank you for mentioning where Wenzcel (here, he is Vincent) lived and that it was a nice part of town! As one who is geographically (and, really, culturally) ignorant of Budapest, when I uncover an address or school (I have Mihaly's school papers, where he went to school), I have no idea "where" it is in terms of the life of the city. One assumes the worst, that it is in a very poor or downtrodden section of the town - and, for most immigrants, that is the truth they are trying to escape! So, it is good to hear that at least Vincent was doing well enough to be comfortable.

It's funny -- I feel a little better now that I have an idea that they were living OK. Thank you for that!

Meredith

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

KUPAN — 2013-04-22 07:35:29Z

Meredith,
You're welcome and no problem, I may even go to the Archives this week. Samuel came to the US first in 1905, Janos and Mihaly followed him in 1907, by the Original Shipping Manifests their father Vincze Balada address in Budapest was District I (nowadays District XII) Varosmajor utca 27, nice part of town.
Joseph

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

mloncaric13 — 2013-04-21 23:46:29Z

Hi Joseph --

What an extremely kind offer! But please, do not go to any trouble. In the future, if you are there and remember, wonderful; if not, that's absolutely fine. I appreciate the offer, regardless.

Yes, that's Jozsef. There is a family rumor that Wenzcel and Maria had another son; in America, he was talked about as "Anthony," so he would've been Antal (I think). I have never been able to find him, and I wonder if he's just one of those family stories that gets mixed up down the years.

My great grandfather Mihaly Balada married a girl from Csot, Veszprem (my g-grandmother, Ilona Kis Kadi)whom he met in New York. Since he died when my grandmother Olga was only about age 11, barely any family knowledge was passed down to her.

So that's why I am searching!

Thank you again for your help and your kindness in sharing information.

Meredith

Re: Maszlonka Family in Budapest 1850s

KUPAN — 2013-04-21 20:14:13Z

Hi,
Next time I'm at the Archives in Budapest will look up the records for you.
Joseph

The last brother Joseph from FamilySearch.org

Father's Name Wenczel Ballada
Mother's Name Maria Masloska
Name Jozsef Ballada
Event Type BAPTISM
Event Date 03 Mar 1878
Event Place Sarlósboldogasszony, Budapest, Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kis-Kun, Hungary

Re: Grunberger Family-Kis Pest

wladekrz — 2013-04-21 19:23:52Z

Hi
My friend family came from that part of Slovakia (in that time Hungary). Grünberger family was living in Ubrez. Szaj and Gitka Grünberger had a son Herman Grünberger born around 1849, moved to Lwow and worked in the post office. Any information, please contact me.
Wladek Rzasa

Re: Phonetic spelling

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-21 17:20:01Z

You're welcome.
the SS-5Form is US social security numbers form.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_records/a/ss5_request.h...

Re: Phonetic spelling

gaynoranddave — 2013-04-21 15:44:00Z

Ok thanks I will try for that. What is that form please and where do I request it from? I am not aware of it here in UK.
Thanks for the idea !