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Arpasi, Kocsis, Bair

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Arpasi, Kocsis, Bair

Posted: 21 Mar 2014 9:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 23 Mar 2014 9:46PM GMT
Surnames: Arpasi, Kocsis, Bair
I have been having difficulty tracking down my family from our Hungarian roots. To start off I'll give some history for what I have.

Joseph (Jozsef) L Arpasi, Sr. was born in 1875 in Rábapatona, Győr, Hungary. He was the son of Joseph (Jozsef) Arpasi and Elizabeth Bair (Erzsebet Ban or Örzsébeth Bán). While in Hungary he married Anna Kocsis, daughter of George Kocsis and Barbara Toth (both American spellings, might be different in Hungarian records). He had several children in Hungary. In our family documents they were born in Tatabanya, Komárom-Esztergom, Hungary (David Albert, Mary, John E, Helen, Joseph L Jr, Margare) but no formal documents exist to support that town instead of Rábapatona, Győr, Hungary.

Joseph L Sr. immigrated to America in 1912. His mother Elizabeth Bair and the rest of the family followed in 1913. Where my family has hit a roadblock is with his parents. I believe that the difference in names from the old country to the new country may be at the heart of this.

For starters, I have found a baptism record for Joseph L Arpasi, Sr. at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2S1F-6WM

Here is shows his native name of Jozsef, and the native names mentioned above of his parents Jozsef Arpasi and Erzsebet Ban. I can confirm I have the correct Joseph L Arpasi, Sr. with this link.

I had no luck finding any info on his father Jozsef Arpasi who was born 1849 in Rábapatona, Győr, Hungary and then later died in 1904 in Tatabanya, Komárom-Esztergom, Hungary of a stroke. I am a part of the Arpasi line and am REALLY looking to find any documents that might confirm his birth date and place, as well as his parents. A marriage certificate would have this info but I have no info on his marriage.

I then tried researching Elizabeth's line to see if I could find a connect that way. Elizabeth Bair (Erzsebet Ban from the earlier baptism link) was born in 1848 in Rábapatona, Győr, Hungary. In 1913 she immigrated to America where she later died on 5/3/1928 in South Bend, Indiana. She had remarried while in America to Frank Hegyi on 1/24/1914. The main info we have on her parents come from that marriage certificate. On that document her parents were listed as Adaui Bair and Clara Gootai. There is one problem with that marriage certificate. It was known in my family that Elizabeth could not read or write in English. On the certificate she signed with an "X" and someone else filled in all the info from her. That means there could be discrepancies with the info provided.

While researching this I came across a baptism record at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XCP4-HLJ?cc=1743180

The names involved are different than what the marriage license says but through research found that the names are very likely to be correct to Hungarian records. I have not been able to find any info based on the names provided by the baptism record to research any further along this line.

I am looking for anyone that might have info on the family lines for the parents of Joseph L Arpasi, Sr., being Joseph (Jozsef) Arpasi and Elizabeth Bair (Erzsebet Ban or Örzsébeth Bán). If anyone has some info or links that might help it would be greatly appreciated.
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