Bacs-Kiskun - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Researching Lajos (Louis) Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog)

yugaya — 2013-04-22 21:25:01Z

Roman Catholic Church records for Futog are available online via Kalocsa diocese e-archive. You must pay a small fee to gain access to the digital images of the original records.

Here is more info on this e-archive:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-cat...

Send me an email on yugaya@gmail.com if you have trouble registering with them (some people I helped had a bit of communication issues when emailing them in English, they do prefer communicating in Hungarian language).

Full birth, marriage and death records for the parish of Futog are available for the period 1826-1922 as well as a lot of additional records like school and church attendance records.

In this archive Futog parish is listed under its name in Hungarian language - ÚJFUTAK.

website of the archive:

http://archivum.asztrik.hu/

Other records that are available for your ancestors from Futog ( civil records, tax recors, land registers) are located in state archives in Serbia but these are not accessible online.

-att: from Kalocsa diocese e-archive, birth and baptism record for Ludovicus ( Lajos ) Kern, born 1883. in Futog, (then) Austria-Hungary, (now) Serbia.

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"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
www.rodoslovlje.com

Mária Kovács & ? Walter

Shaun_Hobson — 2013-02-14 14:37:20Z

I am looking for information about Mária Kovács, d. Dunaújváros, Fejér, Hungary, and married ? Walter. I am aware they had at least 5 children:

1. Manci Walter, b. about 1926 in Csengőd, Bacs-Kiskun, Hungary and d. in Hungary;
2. Rosalia Walter, b. 10 June 1936 in Csengőd, Bacs-Kiskun, Hungary and d. 12 Jan 2006 in Richer, Manitoba, Canada. Rosalia Walter married János Peto and they emigrated to Canada in 1957 where their first child was born during the travel;
3. George Walter, b. about 1939 in Csengőd, Bacs-Kiskun, Hungary. George emigrated to Canada in 1957 and then on to the US. Last known address was in Texas, USA;
4. Józsi Walter, b. in Csengőd, Bacs-Kiskun, Hungary;
5. Agnus Walter, b. in Csengőd, Bacs-Kiskun, Hungary and d. in Hungary.

Re: Researching Lajos (Louis) Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog)

alimac007 — 2013-01-28 20:01:09Z

Thanks for the tip.

Alistair

Re: Researching Lajos (Louis) Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog)

clio128 — 2013-01-28 19:55:35Z

Just friendly advice. Since Kern is mostly German Surname, if you didn't posted yet, post this message to the German and Austrian Forum Board. There is more chances that someone know something about this surname.

Re: Kalman Bartik/Hafenscher

robert_kozma74 — 2013-01-11 09:58:53Z

Baja, civil registration:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21096-26032-71...

Kaposvar for Somogy Area

jlott1 — 2012-07-02 18:49:36Z

Found most of my relatives on microfilm in SLCity at FHLibrary but where to write for more recent documents for the area?

Re: Kalman Bartik/Hafenscher

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-02-27 06:08:05Z

Harry

Baja, Bács-Bodrog megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/moterkep/mb.htm

http://www.radixindex.com/en/surname_index/surname/hafensche...

www.surnamenavigator.org
www.genealogienetz.de/reg

Ofutak, Bacs-Bodrog Hungary

sophiawhippet2 — 2012-02-14 23:26:06Z

Searching for the Rumpf family (Philip Rumpf and Magdeline Voros) They came to US in 1909-1910 with daughter Juliana, to Ohio. Paul Rumpf older son was still in Hungary and married Magdalena Knoble they lived in Novi Sad. Later became Yugoslavia.They came to US in 1920. Any information will be grateful

Researching Lajos (Louis) Kern (born 1883 in Futak/Futog)

alimac007 — 2012-01-31 18:07:32Z

My great-Grandfather Lajos (Louis) Kern was born in 1883 in Futak, Hungary (now Futog, Serbia) He married a French lady named Suzanne Rennesson (I believe in Budapest, around 1909). He joined the French Foreign Legion in 1914 and was posted in Morocco (he never became a French citizen). I have been told that his first language was German and he may be related to the some Kern line in Germany. Any help on where to look for info on birth/marriage/military records would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Alistair

Kalman Bartik/Hafenscher

hbartik — 2012-01-26 00:41:32Z

I am looking for ancestors of my father Kalman Bartik born 1901 and Mother Therea Hafenscher born around 1910 both born in Hungary. Mom might have been from Baja county or city. Had a brother Ferenc and a sister Bona Imre. No idea which part my father might have come from. Believe he had 3 brothers one might have been call Joseph. He left Hungary 1928/29. Mom might have left around 1940. Any info would be appericated

Harry Bartik

Re: REILE, KELLETIN, HELLENBART, BISCHOFF

1provost — 2011-07-12 03:53:03Z

katharina hellenbart is my grandmother anna is my mother

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

mbweisberg — 2010-12-12 20:46:33Z

Hi,

I'm sure that we're not. I'm sorry.
Mimi

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

mustangsally878 — 2010-12-12 19:05:12Z

The original spelling of my last name is scheibel but after coming to the states the name somehow changed to schiebel. My grandfathers name was Johann Scheibel he married Anna Christine Giraridin in Pittsburgh, PA. August 10, 1909. I don't know if this may be of same family would like to find more about them.

Re: Looking for Bucsan, Hungary 1901

taltos017 — 2010-03-16 13:22:19Z

I believe it is now Bucany, in the Slovak Republic

Re: Bujkovszky and Balint Families

reymondo1 — 2010-03-16 10:40:56Z

They had 3 one was thrown out of Hungary and sent to the u.s.a.

Looking for Bucsan, Hungary 1901

lucs04 — 2010-03-16 05:31:32Z

I looking to find where the town of Bucsan is now. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Steve Pongracz(Pongras)

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-08-26 00:06:28Z

Map of old Hungary
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/authung.htm
Steve would have come America as Istvan.
http://www.progenealogists.com/hungary/names.htm
Ungarn is Hungary
Pongracz, Stefen New York 39 1881 1920
Pongracz, Istvan Newark, U.S.A. 34 1880 1914
Pongracz, Istvan Messlen, Hungary 49 1862 1911
PONGRACZ, ISTVAN REVARANYOS, HUNGARY 4 1907 1911
Horner, Julia New Haven, Conn. 45 1875 1920
Horner, Julia New Haven, Conn. 42 1877 1919
www.ellisislandrecords.org
Do you have your Steve's arrival manifest, state marriage application, draft registration form, naturalization intent and petition or SS-5Form? One of the documents should have his precise place of birth.

Steve Pongracz(Pongras)

agmartin114 — 2009-08-25 00:17:38Z

I am looking for information on my Great-grandfather Steve Pongracz who came to the U.S. in 1904 from Austria/Hungary. He was born February 28,1889 possibly in a town of Engrang or Ungarn. He married Julia Horner born in 1890 in Austria/Hungary. They lived in Stoystown, Pennsylvania and West Virginia where Steve worked as a coal miner. They later changed their last name to Pongras. Does anyone know any further information about either Steve or Julia?

Re: LETCHER Frank in SSDI

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-07-24 20:56:42Z

FRANK LETCHER 01 Jun 1901 21 May 1988 20619 (California, Saint Marys, MD)
Frank's SS-5Form should have his place of birth and parents names.
Locser, Anna Belisce, Hungary 7 1902 1909
Locser, Franyo Belisce, Hungary 9 1900 1909
Locser, Sandorne Belisce, Hungary 29 1880 1909 Is this your ancestor?

Re: Frank LETCHER (Franyo LOCSER)

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-07-24 20:49:17Z

Map of Austria-Hungary
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm
The language spoken by your ancestor sort of will point to which newly formed country, after 1918, your research take you.
So what US documents did you look for: naturalization intent and petition; SS-5Form http://ssdi.rootsweb.com
draft registration form; state marriage application, church marriage record. All of them should have a place of birth.

Re: Kisorosz/Ruskodorf

roeckers — 2009-07-24 02:50:14Z

My grandfather's American name is Frank Letcher. I believe that he is the same person as Franyo Locser. I have been unable to find any information on him other than the immigration record from Ellis Island. He was born 6/1/1901 in Austria/Hungary. The age at arrival fits, and I know the name was changed from Loscer/Locser/Loscher to Letcher after they arrived in the US. The Letcher Family resided primarily in Brandywine, Maryland which is about 60-90 miles south of Baltimore, MD. Is the name Letcher familiar to you?

Re: LOOKING FOR HELLEIS,EISAMANN,SCHROTH&VACZY ANCESTORS

chrhelle — 2009-07-12 03:11:45Z

Hello,

This is my 1st attempt as well. My family comes from Hungary and then Munich at the early part of the last century.I know very little but my grandparents are Frank andSuzanne Helleis. Her maiden name was Wagner.They came in '51 and settled in the Bronx but others came earlier with the same name.

Re: Bégafõ/Klekk, Torontal m. Zsablya/Josefsdorf, Bacs-Bodrog m.

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-05-29 00:34:37Z

Place Status County (1913) District (1913) Current country
Bégafõ nagyközség Torontál Nagybecskereki Yugoslavia
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/torontal.jpg North of NagyBecskerek found Begafo...

Zrejnanin (NagyBecskerek)
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&am... Begafo as Klek North-East of Zrejnanin...

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/38-45.jpg left side large 24 moving inward come upon Josefsdorf (Zsablya), NagyBecskerek and Klekk.....

Place Status County (1913) District (1913) Current country
Zsablya nagyközség Bács-Bodrog Zsablyai Yugoslavia

Re: Families of Menches and Gaertner

ZlaticaBeca — 2009-05-28 23:50:06Z

http://genrootsblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/german-immigrant-an...
www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910

Re: Families of Menches and Gaertner

Menches23 — 2009-05-28 20:42:14Z

Thanks Chris!

I have the death certificates for Joseph Gaertner, Anna Gaertner, Michael Menches and Wilhelm Menches. Unfortunately, the mother and father names on Wilhelm's death certificate are marked as 'unknown'. ---

I also have the manifests of when they arrived in America, along with homesteading documents, as well as census records. With the changing of the city names, such as Klek, it is a mystery as to how to find people sometimes. I have also looked on the Stark, ND message boards and anything else I can find.

Thanks for the additional info on where to find more records!

Re: Families of Menches and Gaertner

taltos017 — 2009-05-27 15:19:31Z

In the 1910 census, Michael Menches and his wife Anna "Gardner" are in Stark county North Dakota, living with Anna's parents Joseph and Magdalina. Michael and Anna have been married for 2 years and have 1 child. Michael says he emigrated in 1907 and Anna in 1899, so I assume they got married in North Dakota.
Michael emigrated on the SS Astoria, arriving in New York on 16 July 1907. He has left his father Wilmos in Klekk, Torontal county, Austria and is coming to Gladstone, North Dakota to see his brother-in-law Janos Toth. Michael gives his last residence and birthplace as Klekk.
The Gardners all came over together on the SS Wilchad from Bremen, arriving in Baltimore on 20 May 1897. Their last residence is Joseffalva, Hungary and they are coming to Richardton, North Dakota to see Philip Weber.
If you go to the Stark County North Dakota message board you will find that other relatives have posted messages and have death certificates, marriage license applications, photos, etc.
Klek, Torontal was also known as Begafo and is now Klek, Serbia. The Roman Catholic Church records are in Klek, the Greek Orthodox in Jankahid, the Lutheran in Nagybecskerek and the Jewish records in Nagybecskerek.

There was a Joszeffalva in Zemplen county, that is now called Zemplinske Hamre, and is located in the Slovak Republic. I am not sure that this is the hometown of the Gaertners, but it's the only one listed in the 'Genealogical Gazetter of the Kingdom of Hungary'. The Roman Catholic Church records are in Sarospatak, the Greek Catholic records in Sarospatak, the Reformed Church records in Sarospatak, and the Jewish records in Sarospatak.

Chris Kovach

Re: Families of Menches and Gaertner

taltos017 — 2009-05-26 15:45:48Z

I don't quite understand what you're saying. You've checked manifests and found what?
What are the first names?
Where did they live in the US?
Have you found them in any US census?
What do their obituaries say?

Families of Menches and Gaertner

Menches23 — 2009-05-26 05:02:24Z

I believe all came from this or surrounding counties. I have come up on a stumbling block. I have checked manifests, immigration, death certificates, etc. I cannot for the life of me find any marriages or births to verify. Help!!

Hungarian Village Photography

imrehun — 2009-05-10 08:29:14Z

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Re: Vaczy

sandndan02 — 2009-02-26 00:39:51Z

Im so excited to talk to you. there is without a dout a connection. I spoke to my father (Gerard, Oscar's son) and he said there isnt a question, he knew all the names you gave me. Joseph seems to be (as far as I can tell) Vencenzy's father .....so It would be Oscar dob 1900, vencenzy(came to america in 1895) and then joseph. how would have been proably been born around 1830-1850. Any way I have been working on a family site and would like you to join. here is the link http://www.myheritage.com/site-55801951/vaczy-family-web-sit... you are only able to see certain information. if you go on the site and email me through there I can invite you and you will be able to see more. Where are you located? are you in the USA? Whats left of Oscar's kids are still here in New England. I am looking forward from hearing from you.... :-) PS i have a newspaper artical inviting everyone to a reunion for the Grindle and Fisbee Family.. in ohio

Re: Vaczy

TammySingleton45 — 2009-02-25 03:51:26Z

Thanks for replying. We are definitely related somehow. I do not know how my Joseph Vatzy (that is how he spelled his name) is related to Oscar's family. I don't think he is the brother of Oscar because he would have been born some time around 1830 (I don't know for sure) He was married to Julia Fedor - they are my great, great grandparents. Their daughter was Otilia and she married John Grindle. Her DOB is Oct. 31. 1856. I have some names in our old family reunion book. Oscar is one of them. Apparently the family from Lynn used to come here to Akron to visit the family. Hope that we can discuss further. My family tree program is on the fritz at the moment. I have gotten most of my info from online obituaries and death certificates.

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

taltos017 — 2009-02-13 14:33:44Z

I don't have any specific interest in this family. I don't have any info on this family; I just look over the posts on the Hungary message board and try to help people, if I can, by finding US census records, passenger lists, etc.
It's my understanding that the LDS wasn't able to microfilm records in Romania, but I might be wrong. You might want to post on the Romania message board.
Good luck!
Chris

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

mbweisberg — 2009-02-12 22:32:41Z

Johan Scheibel and his wife Fanny Schillinger were married in Pest, Hungary where they had 3 of their 9 children. The five of them then moved to Bucharest, Romania where they had 3 more children. Then the 8 of them moved to NY where they had 3 more children. Any information that you could help with would be great!
Mimi

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

mbweisberg — 2009-02-12 22:29:48Z

Hi Chris,

Could you tell me about your interest in this family?

I have tons of dates posted on the tree.
Thanks!
Mimi

Re: Anton Lorant --Lorenz Boren in Hungari 1824

sdshutt1 — 2009-02-11 02:12:19Z

Hello,
My name is Doris Shutt. My mother is Dorothy Frances Lorenz. Anton and Julie Lorant were her grandparents. My mother remembers that her grandparents immigrated from Hungari but until now I have been unable to locate a connection.

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

taltos017 — 2009-02-10 16:48:57Z

I couldn't find Meklar in the gazeteer of the kingdom of Hungary.

Apostag is in Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun megye.

The Latter Day Saints have filmed religious records for this town. You can rent the microfilms for $5.50 each at your nearest Family History Center.

Go to this website to get the film numbers:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermain...

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

mbweisberg — 2009-02-10 15:49:21Z

Johan Scheibel was born in 1846 in Meklar, Hungary. He was married to Fanny Schillinger. Fanny's parents were Wilhelm Schillinger and Hani Holzer. My tree stops with Johan though. I would love to know his parents and if there were siblings. I know that Johan lived in Apostag, Hungary.

Re: Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

taltos017 — 2009-02-10 15:04:34Z

Unfortunately, there are probably lots of Scheibels and Schillingers from Austria, Hungary and Romania.

If you could provide birth and death dates and locations for some of your relatives, it would help narrow the search.

If you know where they were in 1900, 1910, 1920,and/or 1930, that would be helpful also. A census record might say which country they came from and when they emigrated.

If we could find a military record in the US, it might give a birth town.

But we need to know who we're looking for.

Chris Kovach

Re: Vaczy

sandndan02 — 2009-02-10 02:33:49Z

I was sitting down with my father today going over some family history and he asked me to send you a line. Oscar was my grandfather. Vinczeuz (Albert) Vaczy was Oscar's father, and the Joseph Vaczy (I beleive was Vinczeuz's father. He was a school teacher for the mentally changelled. There is a school named after the family somewhere in Hunguary because of him. Vinczeuz was a cabnet maker and had 5 children with Elvira....they were Oscar, John Albert, Lillian and Elvira...Oscar Vaczy is my father's (Gerard) father.. they were in Lynn MA...Please let me know if this is helpful and if you can give me any information that I am missing in the tree.

Re: Anton Lorant --Lorenz Boren in Hungari 1824

suelorenz57 — 2009-01-25 04:10:23Z

My late husband.alexander [Alex] Lorenz Jr,father and grand father Anton Lorant and grand mother are buried in lorenz cem.I have his remanes and how do I go about spreading his remaines by his father ?
Thank sue Lorenz
15664 s 2nd
scurry tx 75158

Re: Bujkovszky and Balint Families

zsziklai — 2009-01-12 22:48:06Z

Hi,
Bujkovszky Gusztáv (b. Dec 6 1842 Krupina) was married Flóriánsütz Mária (b.March 24th 1854 Steierdorf). They had 2 or 3 children: Gusztáv and Stefánia Ilona (b. 1883).
If you find out anything more please let me know!
Regards,

Scheibels or Schillingers of Austria, Hungary or Romania

mbweisberg — 2008-10-16 18:17:38Z

Hello,
I am a descendant of the (Johan, John, Johann)Scheibels and (Wilhelm, Fanny, Bertha, Rosa, Karolin)Schillingers from Hungary, Austria, and Romania. Please contact me if you have information.

Re: Anton Lorant --Lorenz Boren in Hungari 1824

robertparker9264 — 2008-10-10 02:49:43Z

I was interested in your message. We have in our family cemetery in San Antonio Texas, Anton Lorant Feb 20, 1824 died ,May 22, 1911. Julie lorant Jan 17, 1839 died Aug 4 1918.
My grandfather Louis Lorenz Sept 20 1869 sept 24,1954. Anumber of his brothers are in the cemetery as well. I am not up on the family history but have some information. Robert Parker sends

Re: Need Help With Finding This Town/ Please

taltos017 — 2008-07-07 13:50:54Z

Did this relative emigrate to the US? If so, have you looked at the ellis island record? Depending on the timeframe, they would be asked their birthplace.
Chris Kovach

Re: Galauner Parents?

dwb542007 — 2008-04-15 22:00:25Z

my name is kyle galauner,my father was david w. galauner, brother of bruce galauner. i dont know much of my fathers side of the family...i would like to learn more. please e-mail me at dwb542007@yahoo.com

thank you
Kyle Galauner

Re: Bujkovszky and Balint Families

bethlong48 — 2007-12-27 11:55:05Z

Did the marriage take place in Kiskunfelegyhaza? If so, the marriage record might show additional information about Gustav.

Beth Long

Bujkovszky and Balint Families

gus92126 — 2007-12-27 07:00:08Z

Hello, i'm looking for a lost paternal lineage of Gustav Adolph Bujkovsky (Gusztav Bujkovszky). Any help or further info would be great!!!

Here's what I have so far that my grandfather had done in the early 70's.

Gusztav Adolph was married to Roza Borbola Balint (b.1883) who is desended from Florain Balint (b. 2/2/1858) and Borbola Szarvas (b.8/26/1860). The above were all born in Kiskunfeleghaza, Hungary excpet it is unknown about Gustav Adolph.

Gustav Adolph and Roza Borbala gave birth to Gustav Joseph in Periam, Timis (now Perjamos) on 10/25/1915.

Gustav Adolph had a father with the same first name and he was a Bishop in Romania, i'm not sure where.

Any help on finding info on Bujkovszky's paternal lineage is much appreciated.

Thank you in advance!

Re: Tasch and Lotspeich of Obrovac

hartkatie — 2007-11-25 09:05:49Z

I was searching through the website for family information and I stumbled on this query -- my family (Tasch) emigrated to St. Louis, Missouri about that time. My great grandfather was from Germany originally, but I know my family has Hungarian roots.

Re: Need Help With Finding This Town/ Please

13eagle1 — 2007-10-29 23:11:52Z

Thank you very much for all your hard work.
I think it is not spelled right.

When I get the time I am going to check LDS. on the Towns Of (Zombor, and Szomor ).
Again thank you.

Re: Need Help With Finding This Town/ Please

lszabo1 — 2007-10-29 16:50:45Z

Hello,

I tried the Radix forum for hungarian genealogy with no success.
http://www.bogardi.com/gen/
I tried the 1882, 1913 gazetteer with merely looking at "mer" or "mér" discounting everything else with no luck.
Again using the Radix forum I tried their current online search again with the same approach and you can see the results below.

Results of search for [mer] : accent mark is stripped
Place name Status County
Kisbudmér village (község) Baranya
Nagybudmér village (község) Baranya
Kelemér village (község) Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén
Sajómercse village (község) Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén
Szemere village (község) Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén
Pusztamérges village (község) Csongrád [megye]
Bodmér village (község) Fejér
Isztimér village (község) Fejér
Gyôrladamér village (község) Gyôr-Moson-Sopron
Gyôrszemere village (község) Gyôr-Moson-Sopron
Répceszemere village (község) Gyôr-Moson-Sopron
Bagamér large village (nagyközség) Hajdú-Bihar
Mezôszemere village (község) Heves
Tarnaméra village (község) Heves
Kaposmérô village (község) Somogy
Velemér village (község) Vas
Zalamerenye village (község) Zala