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Re: Boian, Bucovina

florin_dyrda — 2013-05-14 07:47:31Z

www.boianalbertamuseum.com

Re: Boian, Bucovina

florin_dyrda — 2013-05-14 07:46:29Z

www.boianalbertamuseum.com

Re: Paltinossa, Bukovina, Austria (now Romania)

ppinchawagener — 2013-04-16 07:34:28Z

Yes. She was my Grandmother

pwagenerhot1@hotmail.com

Hornstein, (Ornstein), Mervin

trudiestaple — 2013-03-21 17:33:40Z

Hanora Hornstein:
DOB 12 September 1882, Suchava, Suceava, Romania.
Parents: Simon and Edel Hornstein

Simon Hornstein:
DOB abt 1844, lived in Ivano-Frankivs'k, Ukraine, DOD 26 April 1891
Simon Hornstein parents: Itzig and Hinde Hornstein
Itzig Hornstein lived in Ivano-Frankivs'k, Ukraine

Edel Hornstein parents: Moses & Chaje Mervin
Moses Mervin lived in Ukraine (Sadaqora)

I AM RESEARCHING HONORA HORNSTEIN'S FAMILY. PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THE ABOVE HORNSTEIN FAMILY FROM AUSTRIA.

Re: The village of Shypintsi - Surnames Forfelo, Skakun, Ivasiuk, Jytar

fraservalleygirl — 2013-02-24 20:24:08Z

Hi Dan,
Not sure if you are aware or interested, but there are microfilmed church records for Shypyntsi! The microfilms can be ordered through www.familysearch.org and then viewed after they arrive at your local Family History Center.

Metrical books, 1841-1934
Orthodox Church. Schipenitz (Bukowina)

Microfilm details -

Births 1841-1874 - Film 2350705 Item 2

Births 1875-1890 - Film 2350705 Item 3

Births 1890-1903 - Film 2350706 Item 1

Marriages 1840-1894 - Film 2350706 Item 2

Deaths 1840-1886 - Film 2350706 Item 3

Deaths 1887-1889 - Film 2350707 Item 1

Births 1889-1904 (original) - Film 2373376 Item 3

Births 1904-1906 (original) - Film 2373377 Item 1

Births 1871-1888 - Film 2373377 Item 2

Births 1904-1908 - Film 2373377 Item 3

Births 1906-1912 (original) - Film 2373377 Item 4

Births 1912-1916 (original) - Film 2373377 Item 5

Births 1916-1921 (original) - Film 2373525 Item 1

Births 1921-1925 (original) - Film 2373525 Item 2

Births 1925-1934 (original) - Film 2373525 Item 3

Deaths 1889-1908 - Film 2373790 Item 2

Marriages 1891-1920 (original) - Film 2373865 Item 3

Marriages 1895-1914 - Film 2373865 Item 4

Marriages 1915-1919 - Film 2373866 Item 1

Good luck with your search!

Re: Domanko,Lukian,Lopaschuk,Raddysh

sjpetersen199 — 2013-02-04 00:08:16Z

Looking for Lopaschuk links. My grandmother, Midora (Bulechowsky) married Alexander Lopaschuk and had 4 children. Perf, Bella, Carol and Fred. After Alexander died, Midora married my grandpa, Wasyl(William) Bodnaruk and had 4 more children.
Bill, Elina, Mary and Jeannie.

Jan
Do you have any Lopaschuk connections to me?

Re: Looking for anything ...

debbeane — 2013-02-02 03:34:12Z

My mother in law is a Girbav. Have information that might help. Please contact me.

Re: Looking for anything ...

debbeane — 2013-02-02 03:34:08Z

My mother in law is a Girbav. Have information that might help. Please contact me.

Re: Mihalcean

diana_mihalcean — 2013-01-22 17:39:05Z

Hy...I am Diana Popa,but this name is after the marrige! My girl name is Mihalcean! My grandfather, was from Boian....maybe is your brother of your grand father!We live in Romania, because my grandfather came here! His name is Petre Mihalcean, and my dad is Ilie Mihalcean!Here is my e-mail if you want to wrote me: diana_mihalcean@yahoo.com!

A history of settlements in Bukovyna

rwf_TO — 2013-01-21 01:52:23Z

There are a series of articles on the history of settlements in Bukovyna (Povestea aşezărilor bucovinene) published in Monitorul de Suceava (a Romanian multimedia news company), written by Ion Drăguşanul. The series briefly chronicles the settlement of 400+ towns and villages located in Bukovyna (North and South), some dating back to the 15th century. Mr. Drăguşanul has also published and edited several articles and books of ethnohistorical interest on Bukovyna.

I have compiled a list of these articles and uploaded the file to: http://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwkfBQUgnzvGa2txdDdMaFRvcDQ/e.... Clicking on the name of the town/village will link you to the respective article. Note that I have left the town/village name as is in Romanian.

All of the articles are written in Romanian. Web-based translation software isn’t always on the mark, but one can usually get the gist of what is written.

Richard

Re: Lakusta / Odynski - Two Hills Alberta CAN

janicejo29 — 2013-01-15 18:59:11Z

I believe one of my grandmothers sisters married into this family. Her name was Pearl Humen. She had a daughter named Sophie Odynski, unsure of exact spelling.

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2013-01-07 22:20:05Z

Halpark,
I very much appreciate your continued interest in the disappearance of villages like Diamantheim and it is fantastic that you met this contact who then referred you onward into the Russian Academy of Sciences. The Russian destruction of these villages makes the most sense to me, also. This is another clue that fills in the missing pieces for my family's past.
I assume the Mennonite is "the son-in-law of the lady" who went back to visit.
I will pass this along to Bernd.
Again, I really appreciate the message and your astute fact-finding.
Best to you,
CS

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

halpark — 2013-01-07 15:51:54Z

Chris,
It is some time since this correspondence but I have been intending to add a bit which I picked up at an InternationaL Conference in Italy in October. I ran into the son-in-law of the lady I mentioned earlier who had fled from the Ukraine in 1943/44. She is now deceased but managed to visit her village after the fall of Communism before she died. When she packed her three children into a horse-waggon and fled she left a complete village behind - when she returned there was nothing - just as Diamentheim has been described. She did, apparently, find one person who had stayed and remembered her, but never said anything about who destroyed the village. This man is a Mennonite (and I find him a bit sanctimonious) but he is a very good historian and he said his "best guess" would be that Diamentheim was destroyed "in revenge". However he also added he did not know whether this was a deliberate policy of Stalin or was left to individual commanders. Ehrenburg's exhortation to "Kill" was published in 1943 and Ehrenburg was a Stalin favourite - so perhaps it was deliberately ordered. He said if he found anything more he would contact me, so far nothing. However he also reminded me of a mutual acquaintance who is a senior researcher at the Russian Academy of Sciences, also a very good historian, and I have finally managed to get in touch and have asked her if she knows any more. I am sure she will answer sometime. I think Bernd asked you to correspondend with him directly so please pass this on if you want - if he wants to reject it as "Quatsch" - well that is his prerogative. If I do get any more information I will pass it on. Hope it is useful and your reseaches are going well.

Re: Boian, Bucovina

bcaborin — 2012-12-17 22:06:16Z

Hi Kyle,

Nice to meet you!

Have you ever seen the "Never Far From Eagle Tail Hill" book? There's a digital copy on the St Mary's website (heads up, it's 23MB):

http://www.boianchurch.mareleboian.com/pdf/never%20far%20fro...

This was a book that was published ~1980 with stories about each of the settling families in the area. There are some Esak families in there! There are also lots of Tomas in there, including my great great grandparents, Mihai and Katrina.

I hope that this helps you with your search! Everything I know about this branch of my family tree came from this book.

That being said, I haven't found any new info; I did order some microfilms from the website that the previous poster, rwf_TO suggested, but since there isn't a Family Centre associated with the Mormon Church in my town, it was never shipped.

Best wishes,

Bonnie

Re: Boian, Bucovina

kyle_esak — 2012-12-17 19:04:45Z

Hi bcaborin,

My family is also from Boian, and came to Boian Alberta around the same time described in your message. It Turns out my great grandfather married a Toma, and it is also part of my heritage. The only thing I can't find history on is my current last name Esak. I think it was anglicized when they came to Alberta, but I don't know what it was changed from.

I am thinking it could possibly be Isac or Eshak. But through distant marriages we are somehow related.

On page 47 of the history book from the Bukovina church website, is a picture of Maria Toma, but I can't decipher who else is in the picture.

Page 49 has an entry but what looks like another Toma.

Have you been able to locate any more information on the town?

Re: The village of Shypintsi - Surnames Forfelo, Skakun, Ivasiuk, Jytar

lscott76 — 2012-12-02 20:36:41Z

Hello, I am researching George (Heorhiy) Ewasiuk (spelling could be Ivasiuk, Iwasiuk etc) and family from village of Shypintsi. George Ewasiuk 1880- 1928. His wife Paraskevi (nee Wakarchuk, Wakariuk or similar spelling) was born in 1889 - 1912. They had a child Frozina born 1908 when they immigrated to Two Hills, Alberta Canada between 1908 -1910. They brought with them Paraskevi's mother, Elena Wakarchuk, Wakariuk (or similar spelling) born 1851. This information is from the Alberta Census 1911 and from www.prairiesouls.com as well as family knowledge. Please contact craddock@shaw.ca

Re: Bodnar & Zakharuk Families - Piedykoutz, Bukowina

mikebodnar1 — 2012-11-19 04:47:39Z

These folks you Speak of I believe are my grandfathers parents. Ambrose and Mary Bodnar were my grandparents. Ambrose had a few brothers and one sister. Email me if ths is anything close to what you are looking for. Mikebodnar@shaw.ca.
Thanks.

Re: Bukovina Kurz'

ednaclubb — 2012-09-15 19:37:49Z

please email me

Re: Bukovina Kurz'

rwf_TO — 2012-09-15 18:40:27Z

Jeannette and Shelley,

The Bukovina Society website has a list of contact information to assist Bukovina genealogists in making contact with others researching the same towns and surnames.

http://www.bukovinasociety.org/contact-list.html

Richard

Re: Bukovina Kurz'

jlbrewer21 — 2012-09-15 14:05:56Z

If you or your mother would like to collaborate on the Kurz line, please contact me a jl_brewer@shaw.ca

Thank you!
Jeannette

Re: Bukovina Kurz'

Shelley_platten — 2012-09-15 13:55:08Z

Hi. Fran's kurz and Carolina Wolfe are my great grandparents through their son Philip kurz. My mom has some information and would love to research further.

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-11 21:08:53Z

Herr Mohnbauer,
Thank you for the information.
Chris Schmidt

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Mohnbauer — 2012-08-10 17:46:12Z

...Dann übersiedelte er nach Diamantenheim in Ostgalizien, später nach Weinbergen, schließlich nach Radlau bei Ostrowo....
http://www.galizien.org/de/galizien/geschichtliche-beitraege...

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennoniten
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonitische_Auswanderung
Mennoniten in Galizien:
http://www.google.at/#hl=de&sclient=psy-ab&q=Mennoni...
Mennoniten in Diamantheim: http://www.google.at/#hl=de&sclient=psy-ab&q=Mennoni...

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

halpark — 2012-08-10 14:43:12Z

Chris, Glad you find the ideas worth considering. I do not know a lot about Mennonites, except that they stick together and help each other, but I have a feeling that some villages were almost exclusively Mennonite because of their faith. This does not mean that they did not allow others to live alongside and conversely it did not mean some did not live in "ordinary" villages. Obviously this also does not mean that all German/Ukrainians were Mennonites nor that they were the only Germans who sided with the Nazis, so it would seem logical to assume destruction was carried out on any village where it was known/suspected that there were/had been Nazi sympathisers, and Bernd's description of total destruction would point to very deliberate obliteration. I believe that in the collectivisation programmes very often villages were left standing, although the land was taken, to house the workers. The point is that the Mennonites do keep very careful histories of their wandersings and it is possible that someone could confirm this happened - even if no one actually knows of Diamantheim itself. Best of luck anyway.

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-10 02:57:06Z

Dear Halpark,
Thank you very much for this tip and insight. This makes very good sense as I know that 2 of my grandfather's brothers from Diamantheim did fight for Austria/Germany. Bernd visited the site and reports that the only remnants are a few grave markers and road paths; not even a hint of a foundation so the destruction was total.

My grandparents did not mention that any Mennonites lived in the village.

Thanks again,
Chris S

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

halpark — 2012-08-09 14:14:02Z

Chris,
I assume that you are the C.Schmidt, 2009, who put the Village Plat map of Diamentheim in the 1920s on the web? Not particularly important but something else occurred. Do you know if any of the folk there were Mennonites? I knew a lady who was Ukrainian-German whose husbnand was in the Wehrmacht. He was reported "Missing presumed killed" at the Battle of Kursk. When the Germans retreated many, perhaps most, of the Ukrainian-Germans fled westward with them (probably very wise!) and where it was found that any had fought with the Germans, the Soviet Army completely destroyed the abandoned/half-abandoned villages in retaliation. If this was the case in Diamantheim, that could be the answer - not collectivisation nor Ukrainian actions. This lady, with many others landed up in a DP camp in Austria. Apparently the Mennonites in Canada, or some of them, clubbed together to send a few representatives to Europe to trawl the camps for fellow believers and arranged for them to get to Canada - in this case I think it was BC. I think the Mennonites keep very good records - so if you still have no explanation of the destruction, it might be worth following that trail. Good luck anyway.

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-04 19:02:42Z

Bernd,
Sorry, aber ich gab dir die falsche E-Mail-Adresse auf der vorherigen Nachricht.
Verwenden Sie diese ein:
chris76deb@myfairpoint.net

Nochmals vielen Dank,
Chris

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-04 18:59:00Z

Bernd,
Das ist fantastisch! Diese Koordinaten exakt mit dem polnischen Namen Diamantheim (Szerokie Pole) auf der Karte 1934. Ich möchte Sie bitten, weitere Fragen und teilen Sie weitere Informationen, die ich entdeckt, so hier ist meine E-Mail-Adresse:
cschmidt@myfairpoint.net

Nochmals vielen Dank,
Chris

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-08-04 09:48:02Z

Hallo Chris

Hier sind die Koordinaten.

N49 05 37.88 E24 05 27.49

Ich wollte Dir noch mehr Info über Diamantheim geben, aber Du meldest dich ja nicht über meine Emailadresse.

Viele Grüße
Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-04 02:14:28Z

Hello Bernd,

Ich möchte wissen, wo die Ruinen der Diamantheim sind. Würden Sie in der Lage, zu teilen, wo man Sie und Ihre Mutter nahm die Ruinen gefunden Diamantheim? Haben Sie den Längen-und Breitengrad? Ist es nur südöstlich von Velyka Turya?

Thanks,
Chris S

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-08-03 20:34:14Z

Hallo Chris

Welche Schmidt aus Diamantheim suchst Du denn.
Ich habe 2 Schmidt aus Diamantheim bei mir im Heimatort .

Karl und seine Schwester Ottilie .
Ottilie ist leider schon verstorben.

Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-08-02 08:00:18Z

Hello Chris

Please register via my email address.

b-serwatka@t-online.de

regards
Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-02 02:46:46Z

Bernd,
Would you be able to share with me where Diamantheim was - where its ruins can be found? Can you share with me the longitude and latitude? Google Earth can give you these if you click on "Grid" on the "View" menu.

Thanks,
Chris S

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Mohnbauer — 2012-08-01 11:03:34Z

Genau - dem ist nichts hinzuzufügen. ;-)
Wenn man schon kritisiert, sollte man dann schon genau diese für einen Fremdsprache des Betroffenen auch perfekt beherrschen - dem ist aber nicht so auch wenn die Person das von sich anscheinend annimmt. Es geht hier ja um Hilfe für Ahnenforscher und nicht um Korrekturen eines Schulmeisters von Schulaufgaben. Das scheint immer wieder in Vergessenheit zu geraten. In einem internationalen Forum kann das durchaus auch mal in nicht perfektem Englisch passieren. Hauptsache dem Hilfesuchenden ist geholfen solange es halbwegs verständlich ist! Keiner meint es böse mit seinen Fehlern in der anderen Sprache und muss deswegen auch nicht ins "Schussfeld" geraten. So einfach ist das. ;-)

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-08-01 10:44:36Z

Hallo Mohnbauer

Da muss ich Dir recht geben . Hatte das "Prost" auch falsch interpretiert . So nach dem Motto " Das hast du nun davon". Habe daraufhin meinen Text gelöscht (Es war übrigens eine "Googleübersetzung" )
Ich wollte meine Konwersation eigebndlich dann auch abbrechen, habe ich mir dann aber nochmal überlegt.

Leute , dies ist eine Seite von Ahnenforschern für Ahnenforscher. Was soll der andere Quatsch hier.

Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Mohnbauer — 2012-08-01 07:51:04Z

"Warum nicht Prost? Man sagt es nicht nur beim Trinken"

Ich fragte, weil es in deutsch seltsam rüber kommt und die Antwort ja auf deutsch war. Bei uns wird das Wort wirklich nur in Beziehung mit etwas zu trinken verwendet und nicht für eine Verabschiedung. Wäre die Antwort in englisch gewesen ist das natürlich nicht so. Andere Länder, andere Sitten. ;-)

"but what one would NOT say is "Is here a drinking session?" - if you must, you could say "This is not a drinking session" or "We are not having a drinking session" - aber das wuerde unbedingt pompoes und pedantisch klingen."
wenn ich da anfangen würde zu korrigieren..... hier findet man enorm viel in der die verwendete Fremdsprache nicht perfekt beherrscht wird - auch umgekehrt, auch wenn das von sich selber angenommen wird, dass es perfekt sei - ist aber nicht so. ;-)

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-08-01 06:26:18Z

Hallo Chris

Diamantheim, Kreis Dolina, ist als Tochtersiedlung, d. h. seine Bewohner kamen aus bestehenden deutschen Siedlungen, erst 1901 als letzte deutsche Kolonie Galiziens gegründet worden. Von den Ukrainern der umliegenden Gemeinden wurde Diamantheim Szyrokie Pole, d. h. Breitenfeld genannt. Diese Bezeichnung wurde von dem bekannten Heimatdichter Jakob Enders, der auch Lehrer in dem Ort war, häufig benutzt (für weitere Nachforschungen zu beachten).

Weitere Info über meine Emailadresse .

Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-01 00:29:30Z

Halpark,
Thank you very much for your kind thoughts.
Chris S

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-01 00:28:24Z

Mohnbauer,
Thank you very much for helping me with this information.
Chris S

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-08-01 00:25:00Z

Bernd,
Thank you for your emails today. I am glad that someone has been to Diamantheim's ruins and you know where the village once was. Thank you for offering 2 explanations on why it was purposely destroyed. So sad!

I would like to ask you about it's location. According to the article I mentioned in my last email, the Polish and Ukranians called it Szerokie Pole ("Wide Field). I found Szerokie Pole on this 1934 Polish map on this link (http://www.mapywig.org/m/wig100k/P52_S38_BOLECHOW.jpg). If this fails to open up try this link [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&a... then find the square labeled P52 S38 Bolechow and open up one of the 1934 maps. Then find Turza Vielka and look southeast to find Szerokie Pole. Is this where Diamantheim was located and where you visited with your mother?

Thank you very much,
Chris S

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

halpark — 2012-07-31 22:45:08Z

Warum nicht Prost? Man sagt es nicht nur beim Trinken!

In English Cheers is also most certainly NOT used just for drinking sessions - it is simply a way of saying Goodbye, Regards, Cheerio etc. often used at the end of letters or on departure, but what one would NOT say is "Is here a drinking session?" - if you must, you could say "This is not a drinking session" or "We are not having a drinking session" - aber das wuerde unbedingt pompoes und pedantisch klingen. 'Nuff said! Schluss!

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Mohnbauer — 2012-07-31 22:30:27Z

warum PROST ??? ist hier ein Trinkgelage? ;-)
why cheers? is here a drinking session? ;-)

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

halpark — 2012-07-31 22:12:05Z

Hi Bernd,

There are two versions of the story of/about the destruction of Diamantheim.

1: It was destroyed by the Russians in order to create large-scale agricultural units.

2:It was destroyed by the Ukrainians to deny the Russians any possibility of finding hiding places. Fuer mich bedeutet das nichts - im Kriege? Wann und warum? aber ich sehe selbst die alten Einwohner weiss es nicht!

I am inclined to support the second theory which was supported in the conversations we had this year with elderly (NOT ancient - that means like the Greeks or Romans!) inhabitants of Velyka Turya.

Entweder galizien-deutsche oder galiziendeutsche sind erfolgreicvh.

Prost!

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-07-31 18:44:13Z

Hallo
Es gibt da 2 Varianten über die Zerstörung Diamantheims.
1.
Zerstörung durch die Russen, um große landwirtschafftliche Flächen zuschaffen

2.
Zerstörung duch die Ukrainer um den Russen Unterschlupfmöglichkeiten zu nehmen.

Ich tendiere eher zur 2.

Auch die Gespräche mit den alten Einwohnern von Velyka Turya die wir dieses Jahr geführt haben,lassen diesen Schluss zu.
Das genaue Datum ist nicht mehr bekannt.
Die Fotos ,die bei www.galizien-deutsche.de veröffendlich sind, stammen übrigens von mir.

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-07-31 18:18:43Z

Hello
There's two versions of the destruction diamond home.
First
Destroyed by the Russians to zuschaffen landwirtschafftliche large areas

Second
Duch destruction take the Ukrainians by the Russians to hide.

I tend to second

The talks with the ancient inhabitants of Turza Wilky we have had this year have, to this end.
The exact date is not known

The photos are from www.galizien deutsche.de-come, by the way of me.

Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

halpark — 2012-07-31 17:50:12Z

Bernd,
Darf ich hoeflichst sagen dass ausser jemand etwas Deutsch kann, www.galizien deutsche.de kann ein Bisschen verwirrend sein - sehr nette website solange man weisst nach galiziendeutsche.de zu suchen.
Aus viele Erfahrung wuerde ich sagen dass es auch sinnlos ist Ortsnamen zu ubersetzen - Diamantheim ist einfach Name eines Ortes genau wie Berlin, Leipzig usw.
"Destroyed by the Russians to zuschaffen landwirtschaftliche large areas". Da ich das Original nicht habe kann ich nicht genau sagen aber ich habe das Gefuehl Dass "to zuschaffen landwirtschafftliche large areas" waere vielleicht "to create large agriculatural units for collectivisation/collective farms"
Sie sagen auch "I tend to second" - aber der Zweite bedeutet nichts wie es steht. Vielleicht soll es "Such destruction was carried out by the Ukrainians to hide - what? - by the Russians." To hide ist ein transitives Verbum, muss ein Akkusatives Object haben um sinnvoll zu werden. Oder wollte die Russen etwas machen um zu verstecken etwas dass die Ukrainer gemacht habe? Hoeflichst gesagt um Klarheit zu schaffen.

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Mohnbauer — 2012-07-31 14:34:05Z

"Do you know what year the Russians destroyed the village and why they did so?"
because germans,austrians were always war opponents at WW1 and also at WW2. clear that germans which once settled in the russian area then were persecuted and displaced, how it always was in and after wartimes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

Diamantheim wurde in der Sowjetzeit gezielt zerstört. Vom ehemaligen deutschen Friedhof sind heute noch einige Fragmente zu finden.
Diamantheim was deliberately destroyed during the Soviet era. From the former German cemetery are still found a few fragments.
http://www.galizien-deutsche.de/hochgeladen/dateien/Erinneru...

....by the 19th century, the largest part of Ukraine was integrated into the Russian Empire with the rest under Austro-Hungarian control. A chaotic period of incessant warfare ensued, with several internationally recognized attempts at independence from 1917 to 1921, following World War I and the Russian Civil War. Ukraine emerged from its own civil war, and on December 30, 1922 Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic became one of the founding republics of the Soviet Union. The Ukrainian SSR's territory was enlarged westward during the civil war shortly before, and after World War II, and further south in 1954 with the Crimea transfer.......Ukraine became independent again when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Serwatka_Bernd — 2012-07-31 12:50:05Z

Hallo

Ich kenne die genaue Lage von Diamantheim . Ich war dort im letzten Jahr mit meiner Mutter, die dort 1937 geboren ist. Dieses Jahr war ich mit meinem Sohn dort.Bitte mal unter

b-serwatka@t-online.de

melden.

Bernd

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

chris76deb — 2012-07-31 00:59:56Z

Thank you very much for the history on Diamantheim. I have an article by Heinrich Stallmann entitled "From the History of Diamantheim, the Most Recent German Settlement in Galizien" who writes that the Ukranians called it Szerokie Pole and I found this latter name on the 1934 Polish Galicia map found on www.galiziengermandescendants.org. This Polish map has the village just south east of Turza Wielka. Before he died, my grandfather sketched out the village and it matches the layout on this 1934 Polish map exactly.

Do you know what year the Russians destroyed the village and why they did so? Do you know of any person in this area of Ukraine that I can contact for more information and for more pictures?

Thank you very much,
Christopher Schmidt

Re: Diamantheim, Galicia

Mohnbauer — 2012-07-30 15:22:02Z

it´s stated it does not longer exist and was between Zarichne and Velyka Tur`ya.....or near Zarichne. it was destroyed. it was community of Ugartsthal.
http://www.gomapper.com/travel/where-is/bolshaya-turya-locat...
present Ugartsthal: http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r...

old map of 1911 - go left side to 9 and then go west to end of map and you have the area of Diamantheim more at right side:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/42-49.jpg

old map of Galicia - Diamantheim in D 11 north-west of Kaluz and Ugartsthal like ZlaticaBeca stated:
http://semanchuk.com/gen/maps/UnterschutzGalizienDeutscheMap...
http://www.semanchuk.com/gen/maps/UnterschutzIndex.html
http://www.galiziengermandescendants.org/Data/village_and_pa...

Hilfskomitee der Galiziendeutschen e.V.. 04/2012. Erinnerungen an das ehemalige Diamantheim in Galizien, an eine deutsche Siedlung, die es nicht mehr gibt.
Relief Committee of the Galician Association. 04/2012. Memories of the former "Diamond's home" in Galicia, a German settlement, which no longer exists.
http://www.galizien-deutsche.de/hochgeladen/dateien/Erinneru...
http://www.galizien-deutsche.de/assistance-committe-for-the-...
http://www.galizien-deutsche.de/