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JKSTAUL  (View posts) Posted: 5 May 2000 1:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nachbar
My ancestor came from germany on documentation I have located in Buffalo, NY.
In the Directories for Buffalo, she was known as "Grace" (Graf) Nachbar. Her marriage record was located in Buffalo, dated
1866. The name of the bride was a german name.It appears as"Geseenz" or "Creseenz" in the marriage record. The church record is written in german nd it is a German Evangelical Church. Is this the german name for "Grace"? And what would the correct spelling be? as is is a bit hard to read.
Thanks for any help you can give.

Re: Old german names

ellfinn  (View posts) Posted: 6 Jul 2009 11:44PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Nachbar
Hi, JK! It appears you & my husband are cousins. Your sister has emailed me this week making the connection.

Graf is German for "Count," as a title. Grace as in "the Grace of God" or "Hail Mary full of Grace", is Gnade, pr. "guh-NAH-deh." Your cousin had several years of German in h.s.!

In German Gothic font, which an immigrant church would have been using at the time, a single "S" would look like an F. Some American might have seen this S and thought it was an F. There aren't a lot of German names for girls beginning with GRA-, though.

You have gotten the Nachbars farther then we have! Looking forward to "meeting" you via email!

Re: Old german names

ellfinn  (View posts) Posted: 7 Jul 2009 12:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Forgot, Crescencia or Kresentia or Crescentia, etc, is a Germanic girls' name, means to spring up or thrive, like a healthy plant shooting up, and comes from the same root as crescendo in music, from Latin originally as so many words/names do. Perhaps that "Creseenz" is Cresenz? Kresenz is the male form of the name. Z is pronounced "TS" in German (as in cats), and one S is pronounced like our Z. 2 S's together are pronounced as we say one.

American census takers might have doen strange things to spellings of German names!

Re: Old german names

klausisele  (View posts) Posted: 7 Jul 2009 7:31AM GMT
Classification: Query
Small correction: Kreszenz is not the male form, it is just the German form of the Latin name Crescentia.

Re: Old german names

JKSTAUL  (View posts) Posted: 8 Jul 2009 1:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Mary-
I saw a copy of the email you sent to my sister Kathy.
I have been doing research on the Nachbar families since 1992. I have quite a bit of info I am willing to share.
We need to connect. Feel free to email me at jkstaul@aol.com
privately outside of this message board area.
I was in Buffalo last to do research in Oct. 07. I spent some time with Nancy Ricketts and did research at the Main Library in Buffalo.She updated me on some of the families decended from Norman Nachbar, but I do need more. I hope you can help me with this. I also have some Weber info, too.
I am thrilled you are interested in these families. Is your husband Scott? and his father is Gary? Scott and his family visited my family in the 1970's. My father was pretty close to Gary Nachbar.

I would love to hear from you!

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