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Re: Searching for Dietz family, lost town after WWII

robeen_joe — 2013-05-11 23:46:57Z

I appreciate the response. I have had mild success communication with the Czech Republic using Google Translate to convert my text. I will have to try that route for now and see if I can locate documents from those local government offices. Thanks for the suggestions.

Re: Searching for Dietz family, lost town after WWII

aksamitnik01 — 2013-04-26 05:07:24Z

Those records are too recent to be online. The books probably still are at some municipal office. Since you are a direct descendant, you should be able to obtain a copy of the records after you give them documents proving your relationship and pay a fee. But frankly, I don´t know if people at that office will be able to communicate in English and if this can be arranged by email. You´ll have to try, I guess :-)

As for the records, I´d try to look for them at Nový Kostel, Skalná or perhaps Cheb.

Searching for Dietz family, lost town after WWII

robeen_joe — 2013-04-26 03:37:23Z

My mother Renate Dietz was born in April 1945 in Lomnice (Steingrub) to parents Josef Dietz b.1907 Velky Rybnik (Großenteich) and Rosa Hoyer b.1912 Novy Kostel (Neukirchen).

I have scanned many church registers (actapublica.eu) in that area looking for records of my grands' birth and marriage to no avail. The small town of Großenteich that my mother heard her parents talk of was razed after WWI as part of the border zone clearing around 1950.

I guess my question would be to ask if anyone knows how I could refine my search of parish registers. Assuming that my grandfathers records still exist, any thoughts on where they might be located now if his hometown is now leveled? My grandmother's town is still there, but also I get no traction searching for her info as most parish records I have found stop before her birth. Are more recent records kept somewhere else than the home district? Just a little lost here, with language barrier and lack of knowledge of them from family.

Any pointers would be appreciated...thanks all.
-- Joe --

Re: Schicker family - Frantiskovy Lazne [Franzenbad]

cheryllynnfazzini — 2013-02-07 19:40:11Z

Hi, I just saw your post about Franzenbad. I found the records on line!! I dont know if you have found them or if you email is still good.

cherylfazzini@yahoo.com

Loveland, Colorado USA

shot me an email and I will tell you what site they are on.

Re: Schicker family - Frantiskovy Lazne [Franzenbad]

cheryllynnfazzini — 2013-02-07 19:40:11Z

Re: CERNOHORSKY

jan_kaiser — 2013-01-08 13:39:17Z

Family Cernohorsky live in Domazlice

Re: Ancestors-NEKOLNY, SAK, ZOFKA, SAFARIK

cmscates912 — 2012-11-30 17:39:21Z

I am descended from a marriage between a Kolar and Zofka in Cleveland ca. 1887. I know Kolar came from a town called Strakonice in Bohemia (Czech Republic). Figured I would post as your towns bear resemblance to mine.

Her maiden name was Zofka (Zofkova). Her parents were probably John and Barbara Grejcarek, but an Elzbieta Zofka (1830-1905) lived with them. I believe she might be a step mother. I believe Mary came over in 1885. She would have been about 18. There was a Zofka family in Cleveland ca. 1890-1910 who lived within a quarter mile from the house my family settled in. Might be related, maybe an uncle.

Hope this helps in some way.

Re: Surname Solle from Nehodiv, Austria, Bohemia pre 1900

kholena — 2012-09-28 15:17:52Z

The birth record of Josef Šolle (or Šole) (pronounce Sholle) is on http://actapublica.eu/matriky/plzen/prohlizec/6027/?strana=9....
The marriage record of his parents on http://actapublica.eu/matriky/plzen/prohlizec/6031/?strana=3....

Re: Surname Solle from Nehodiv, Austria, Bohemia pre 1900

TankerHC63 — 2012-09-27 20:57:51Z

Yes, according to the 1910, 20 and 30 Census he and his wife could read and write (Was literate). He spelled it Solle and when his wife took a trip to Nehovid in 1907, on arrival back in the states she also spelled it Solle.

Im pretty sure it is Karel, it is definitely spelled in 6 letters, its just hard to tell from the handwriting on the document if its an a or an e.

Re: Surname Solle from Nehodiv, Austria, Bohemia pre 1900

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-09-27 20:53:30Z

Hi Jeff

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=13.606596&y=49.412154&z=11&...

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=13.606596&y=49.412154&z=11&...

Is the surname on the arrival manifest written SOLLE? I don't have a paid subscription to view it. His church marriage record and state marriage application should have parents names.

Karel would be Czech

S^OLLE in CZ's phone book:
http://seznam.1188.cz/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&type=&...=

http://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/%C5%A0olle/hustota/

http://actapublica.eu/
www.nacr.cz

http://www.wwjohnston.net/famhist/czech-research.htm
http://czechgenealogy.blogspot.com/

Surname Solle from Nehodiv, Austria, Bohemia pre 1900

jmj021963 — 2012-09-27 19:44:29Z

Hello all,

I have been conducting Genealogy research for 38 years, recently a cousin asked if I could do some research on his fathers line. This is where I dead end.

His Great Grandfather is Joseph Solle

He was born and raised in Nehodiv, Austria, Bohemia.

Born: 6 December 1884

Immigrated to the US, Baltimore, Maryland in 1900.

Departed from the Port of Bremen Germany on the ship SS Rhein.

Arrived at the Port of Baltimore, Maryland sometime in 1900 (I believe August).

He started work as a Clothes Presser and later was a tailor before dying young.

Married a young woman named Mary, about 16 years of age who was also Bohemian but US born to Bohemian parents.

I believe his fathers name was either Karl, Karal or Karel. The reason for this is Mary returned from a trip to Bohemia to visit her Father in Law (with that name) in 1907 in Bohemia as the record shows she re-entered the United States at the Port of Baltimore from the ship SS Chemnitz having departed Port of Bremen.

From there I can find nothing. I have seen the town of Nehodiv through a Google Earth tour and it is small (79 people) and was apparently small even in 1900.,

Any help you can give me in this would be greatly appreciated. I would like to know what the correct family name is, is it Solle? Also if possible, who were his family there in Nehodiv and are there any still living there?

Thanks much

Jeff

Re: Stodola Family

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-09-24 21:50:33Z

You're welcome Audrey.
Look into Leo BACA's 9 volumes Bohemians to America. You need that location to proceed with the research.
I take it the naturalization is before 1906 so no place of birth only a name of a country.
Nothing in the church marriage or baptismal record here in US?

Re: Stodola Family

audreygillen77 — 2012-09-24 21:37:32Z

Thanks for all these websites. All my Posta's came thru before it was Ellis Island, I have been searching all ports during the yrs 1885-1900. Not on lists yet. Did find naturalization records for 2 bros and 1 bro-in-law.
But it I found it all in 1 week, I would have nothing to do next week :) I love the mystery and search.

Audrey

Re: Stodola Family

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-09-24 21:14:56Z

village of Borova, Town of Policka, Chrudium- chrudim

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=15.935397&y=49.951558&z=10&...

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=16.290402&y=49.714793&z=12&...

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=16.187409&y=49.741799&z=12&...
http://www.mapy.cz/#x=16.187409&y=49.741799&z=12&...

http://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Stodola/hustota/

http://seznam.1188.cz/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&type=&...

have you looked in www.ellisislandrecords.org at the POSTAs that came thru that port, just to give you an idea of the location.

Re: Stodola Family

audreygillen77 — 2012-09-24 20:35:33Z

Hi Gary,
We are related. My mother , Hermina Posta-Chermack, was a sister, to your grm Caroline Posta Stodola. I see that you have info as to where Adolph's family came from in Bohemia. We are searching for where the Posta's came from in Bohemia. Would you have any information that would help us figure that out? Or do you have any information to help us find other relatives that stayed in PA?

Hope to hear from you,
Audrey

Re: Stodola Family

audreygillen77 — 2012-09-24 19:01:07Z

Hi Robert,
My name is Audrey(Posta-Chermack)Gillen. I am related and wonder if you would be willing to give my family some info about you and your life? My mother was Hermina, a sister to your grm Carrie. We are working our family tree and would sure like to add your family to it. I have publicly posted the tree on Ancestry under the section Family Tree. Posta + many other surnames. Please look at it.

Would love to hear from you.
Audrey

Re: surname origins

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-09-19 21:24:37Z

Alicia

LOUKOTAs in CZ's phone book:
http://seznam.1188.cz/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&type=&...=

http://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Loukota/hustota/

http://feefhs.org/links/czech.html

www.surnamenavigator.org

http://genforum.com

Re: surname origins

Its_AJ_2012 — 2012-09-19 20:13:40Z

Albert Loukota was my Great-Grandfather also! His son, James Loukota, was my Dad's Father that passed away when he was young and my Dad was adopted by his Stepfather. I am searching for the whole Loukota side of my family that I never knew existed until recently when I learned he was adopted and realized I am a Loukota after all. Hope to hear something soon - although it seems as if it has been quite a while since the last post. Thanks!! Alicia

Re: family Borik/Horakov from Zinkovy close to Nepomuk/Plzen

f_bac — 2012-09-11 15:22:33Z

yeah, I think we're somehow related. Same place, same period of time. Can I have your email, if you don't mind?
Franco - Milann, Italy

Re: Steiner - Honal from western Bohemia

onadrive — 2012-09-02 15:56:08Z

Dear Werner: I am sorry but I do not have any information about any Honal family members, none with the name Christina. Pat Brown n6bty@cox.net

Re: House in Arnoltov, Bohemia

blackwolf6 — 2012-09-01 01:59:54Z

You may try contacting my researcher. Just typer her name in your Browser. I know she takes pivcctures of villages, but it may take her some time, or she may know someone who lives there. Her name is
Blanka Lednicka

Re: House in Arnoltov, Bohemia

DaveB1926 — 2012-08-31 23:25:18Z

They do show on the 1840 Cadaster Map, but that is the latest map that I have. Thanks for looking. Dave B

Re: House in Arnoltov, Bohemia

blackwolf6 — 2012-08-31 23:15:27Z

Not necessarily - but possible. In my village the houses were re-numbered. I will look for some contact information there for you.

Re: House in Arnoltov, Bohemia

DaveB1926 — 2012-08-31 16:06:32Z

blackwolf6: Thanks for your posting of 19 July 2012. The house numbers of interest 40,41,and 35 are not on this map. Do I assume they are no longer standing? Dave B

Re: Steiner - Honal from western Bohemia

whonal — 2012-08-22 12:20:32Z

Hello,
do you have more information about "Christina nee Honal"?

My Honal- and Turnwald-ancestors come from western Bohemia, also from Kostelzen, Honositz, village and Tuschkau Lochutzen, all district Mies.
More at www.honals.de or mail to w.honal@gmx.de
best Regards
Werner Honal
Unterschleissheim near munich / germany

Re: House in Arnoltov, Bohemia

blackwolf6 — 2012-07-19 13:10:13Z

Go to Mapy.cz. Trype arnoltov in the box. A red bubble shows where it is. When you see it, click on it and it will zoom in until you see the outline of houses with numbers. If you can, print it,, - then click on the house number until you actually see the house!

Re: German Name for Brod u Striba?

talljohn521 — 2012-07-19 03:59:13Z

You may be right...maybe some day I will find a clue that positively confirms one of these theories about "Brange." That's all for now. Thanks again.

Re: Plez, Czech.

Brian_Meads — 2012-07-18 19:18:10Z

Judi,

It has been a few years since the original thread, but if you see this, I would be interested in anything on Rose & Matthew. They would be my great grandparents, my grandmother was Hildegard Knippel.

Regards,
Brian

Re: German Name for Brod u Striba?

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-07-18 16:51:39Z

You're welcome John

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/30-50.jpg

right side margin; 3 lines below small 50 ; inward Tachau

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_deutscher_Bezeichnungen_t...

I would be incline to say that Brange would be more like Brand and not Brod. Take a listen to pronounciation
http://ivona.com

KleinMaierhofen by small 40, right side; West of it is a Brand.

Re: German Name for Brod u Striba?

talljohn521 — 2012-07-18 13:17:57Z

Thanks. Your response is very helpful. I hope you will consider two related questions:

(1) I have a US Census record referring to my great grandfather's home as "Brange." I know that this place was in Tachau (Tachov) district, but have not been able to find it. Initially, I believed it was present day Branka (to the west of Tachov city), but I learned more, and now I doubt it. Is it possible that the pronunciation of Brod could have been misunderstood as "Brange?"

(2) I have other references to my family's origins in "Mayrhofen" and "Godrich Lunhozen" (or "Goodrich"). I believe these refer to two small villages south of Tachau city known then as Klein Maierhofen and Godrusch (now Male Dvorce and Jadruz). I do not understand the meaning or significance of "Lunhozen," and I do not know how either of these places could have been identified as "Brange." If you have any thoughts on these questions, I would appreciate reading them.

Thanks so much for your attention.

John

Re: German Name for Brod u Striba?

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-07-18 03:15:46Z

You're welcome.

There are more villages named Brod in present Czech Republic so u Stribra [by Stribro] was used to identify its location.

www.slovnik.cz
brod: ford, ford crossing; ford way; hard; shallow; crossing place; wade.

Re: German Name for Brod u Striba?

talljohn521 — 2012-07-18 02:59:02Z

Thanks very much. (German name=Brod)

Re: German Name for Brod u Striba?

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-07-17 23:41:48Z

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=12.919753&y=49.699195&z=13&...

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm

http://www.mustribro.cz/

German Name for Brod u Striba?

talljohn521 — 2012-07-17 20:58:14Z

I am working on a theory that Brod u Striba (at the eastern end of Tachov District) was once called something like "Brange" by the German ethnic residents of the mid 19th century. Can anyone confirm or reject this?

Thanks

John

Ullmanns in Tachau District

talljohn521 — 2012-07-17 14:42:21Z

Looking for any information on Ullmanns near Tachau city in the mid 19th-century. I'm especially interested in the vicinity of Godrusch and Klein Maierhofen (now Jadruz and Male Dvorce), to the south of Tachau city. I am also interested in small villages near Galtenhof (now Branka) to the west of Tachau city, where several related families lived.

Re: House Numbers

labald — 2012-06-23 00:03:28Z

Hello,
Hracholusky (Rakollus)Map from year 1839 (it seems that the house is no longer)- house number is red.
Pnovany (Piwana)Map from year 1839, I think that today has a house new number cp.104.

Web site is http://archivnimapy.cuzk.cz

Re: Birth Translation Please

labald — 2012-06-22 23:56:42Z

Hello, in Bohemia under Austrian law at the time, it unfortunately does not play a significant role - for genealogy. Younger than 24 years only need the consent of parents (father´s paternal blessing).
Older than 24 years were adults - from the perspective of law and church they had more freedom - did not need this consent (but at the time without family acceptance you can´t do practically anything ... but that is another question).
The lower limit was for boys of 14 years for girls to 12 years. But the current age was 18 to 25 years (mens also later).

Re: Birth Translation Please

labald — 2012-06-22 23:47:36Z

Bedrich Weinfurt born June 30, 1878., bapt..3.7.1878 by Fr. Fiala chaplain, Klatovy-“Imperial” suburb Nr.25, midwife Barbara Fišer Klatovy Nr.7, mother Aloisie legitimate daughter of John Šmause from Velenov district Klatovy, forester and his wife Catherine nee ? from Bělčice district Blatna, godparents are Vaclav Husberger tailor in Klatovy 9 and shoemaker's widow Barbara Fišer-ová from Klatovy Nr7. Father (written later in 1900) is Martin Weinfurt, an American citizen in Islip, L.E. in the State of New York in the United States entered the public before a notary and two witnesses and own up as the father of this child.

(Bedrich) legitimized in according marriage certificate issued by pastor John H. Prescott, church St. Anna in Sayville L.E. New York, on November 14, 1896 closed marriage at the same place and on statements by both parents on January 22, 1900 before a notary public (Jos. F. Thum) and two witnesses (Theodor Kruta a Alois Handliš) in Islip North America. This statement and marriage certificate was stored in the parish register 27, page 118, legitimized on February 6,1900 by M.Sedlák, dean.

Re: Birth Translation Please

labald — 2012-06-22 23:46:29Z

When arrived Aloisie (=Louise) in 1888 on S.S. Marsala to NY, the youngest John was 0years and 1 month old (according to a passengers list). Was Martin in Europe meantime or who is father when Martin Weinfurt is already in the U.S.?
ISTG ( http://immigrantships.net/v10/1800v10/marsala18881206_01.htm... )on 6 December 1888 in N.Y:
96 Aloise, Weinfurt, 33, f, woman, Austria, New York, Klattau
97* Bedrisch, Weinfurt, 7, m, child, Austria, New York, Klattau
98 Ottokar, Weinfurt, 6, m, child, Austria, New York, Klattau
99 Alois, Weinfurt, 5, m, child, Austria, New York, Klattau
100 Rozena, Weinfurt, 3, m, child, Austria, New York, Klattau
101 Jan, Weinfurt, 0y 1m, m, baby, Austria, New York, Klattau

But according to the parish register, was born Jan in Klatovy – City, house Nr.10 on 6.1.1886? There should be two years old? See birth register Klatovy-63, folio 302, on-line page 306. That would explain only the existence of two Johns.

They acted as a family, I think he is the father. But I do not know how it was. On ancestry.com there are several applications for a passport in the name of Martin Weinfurt ... Have you tried the Baltimore harbor, too?

Re: Birth Translation Please

labald — 2012-06-22 23:44:11Z

Line Bremen to NY, on the SS Eider, arrived 4-18,1888, it sounds good. As you know from Historical Regions > Bohemia > Martin Weinfurt I found a hot footprint in the village Dnesice... corresponds to the year 1828.

Re: Birth Translation Please

labald — 2012-06-22 23:43:48Z

Martin was married before he married Aloisie. Why do you think (or know) that Martin b.1852 was born in Stenovice, Plzen? Why I am asking? Martin (b1828) in 1852 was just 24y old, this means underage adult. But unfortunately the parish registers of Stenovice are not online ...

Re: LANG from SW Bohemia

anderle_jiri — 2012-06-21 10:45:45Z

Hi,
I have long relatives Lang from Schuttwa, Ronsperg county. And I have next relatives in Rib Lake Wis.

Frisch

class9597 — 2012-06-20 13:12:44Z

I am looking for information on a Ignatz Frisch born in Moravia about April 1875 and married Regina Reiss. I think his fathers name might be Leopold but not sure. I know they moved to Vienna, Austria and that is where he married Regina. I am looking for any information on Ignatz parents or brothers and sisters.

Re: House Numbers

blackwolf6 — 2012-05-20 04:07:29Z

go to
mapy.cz
in the search box, type the name of the village and hit enter. It will show you the location of the town, and you can zoom in untill you see the list of houses. also , try searching google for the address. It may show a street view and show the house.

Re: Birth Translation Please

jlmurray591 — 2012-05-08 22:01:50Z

David, Martin 1852 passport application states he was born in Stenovice. His wife Anna, on the Hamburg passenger list states she was born Klattau (Klatovy).
What is the allowed ages for men and women to marry?
Jean

Re: Birth Translation Please

jlmurray591 — 2012-05-08 18:44:53Z

David, I have checked the Baltimore port. The only possible immigration for our Martin I find is Bremen to NY, on the Eider, arrived 4-18,1888, birth age 1828. Knowing how it is practically common to find mistakes in documents, etc, I think this may be him. A document, even headstone, is only as good as the source supplying the information. Seems especially true when dealing with Czech surnames.
When looking at current day Weinfurt's in the Plzen region, I find one living in Kanice and one in Drahkov. One in Prague and one in Prague-Kunretice.
The WEinfurt surname is of German origin from the town of Weinfurt.
Jean

Re: family Borik/Horakov from Zinkovy close to Nepomuk/Plzen

rhora_1 — 2012-05-07 02:08:46Z

I have an ancestor named Josepha Borikova of Zinkovy 14. She married Martin Hora of Zinkovy. Their son, Jan Hora was born 1835, Zinkovy 14. Jan married Dorota Machackova of Horsice, and they came to America in 1866.

You may already know, but I just discovered that surnames express gender in the Czech language. Hora is male and Horakova is female. Borik is male and Borikova is female. Novac is male and Novakova is female. Machacek is male and Machackova is female.

I am hopeful our ancestors are related.

Birth Translation Please

jlmurray591 — 2012-05-07 01:20:10Z

Hi, looking to have a birth transcribed found on actapublica.eu, signature Klatovy 65, Image 88,
that of Bedrich Weinfurt. The father Martin, has no family detail, only something about going to America, Islip, Long Island, NY.
I know Martin was previously married before this marriage to Alouise. Looking for Martins origin. Alouise was from
Belcice, Blatny, Trebon.
Martins other 4 children, for reference, are Sig, Klatovy 66, Image 119, Sig. Klatovy 65, Image 151, Sig Klatovy 63, Image 225, and Sig Klatovy 63, Image 306.
Jean

Re: Ancestors-NEKOLNY, SAK, ZOFKA, SAFARIK

Johnd710 — 2012-04-03 15:13:13Z

my great uncle married Katerina Safarik in Obora,
The record of that marriage

wife Katerina Šafařík, daughter of the deceased Vojtech Safarik, miner in Obora house #33 [and] of deceased mother Mary nee Smial[?], a shepherd's daughter of Borek house #9, born in Darova, former[?] domain Plasy, district [__?] and province Kralovice, Pilsen Region.

The record can be found at this website
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/plzen/prohlizec/6624/?strana=2...

Looking for info on great-grandfather George Trojcak and family

devlinmonks — 2012-03-30 03:03:10Z

Here's the information that I have on my family. My great-grandparents, George Trojcak and wife Elizabeth Levi Trojcak immigrated with infant daughter Anna around 1890. The story from family members is that George was involved in the death of a police officer and that's the reason for the move to the states. I don't know the circumstances around the story.

They are listed in census information from Virden and Chicago Illinois in 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 which states that they came from Austria/Hungary/Czeckoslovakia.

George's info from family records:
George Trojcak (Jan 1863-Jul 1929) born in Austria/Hungary

His parents:
Steve Trojcak - born in Austria/Hungary
Anna Kostkas - born in Austria/Hungary

Elizabeth's info from family records:
Elizabeth Levi (Nov 1866-Dec 1931) born in Austria/Hungary

Her parents:
Andrew Levvi/Levi- born in Austria/Hungary
Anna Wolf - born in Austria/Hungary

George Trojcak and Elizabeth Levi Trojcak's children:
Ann R Trojcak (1890-1989) born in Czechoslovakia
My grandmother - Elizabeth Trojcak (1901-1987) born in Illinois
Mary Trojcak (1896-1970) born in Illinois
John Paul Trojcak (1898-1962) born in Illinois
Mike Trojcak (1899-1979) born in Illinois
Stephen Trojcak (1903-1973) born in Illinois
Agnes Trojcak (1906-) born in Illinois
Julia Trojcak (1908-1983) born in Illinois

I'd like to find information on where George and Elizabeth were born and possibly info about the reasons they came to the State. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kathleen Devlin Monks