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Re: Potmisil in Nebraska

marylevesque256 — 2013-05-12 03:33:34Z

Hmm. This book (picture attached) has several Potmesil entries. I couldn't find Jan born in 1870.

url:
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/praha/prohlizec/11517/?strana=...

But given that the town name is the same, it would be worth checking these folks out. They may be related, and might intersect with your line only 1 or 2 generations back.

Were they Catholic or Evangelical?

Re: Potmisil in Nebraska

WARRENASOKOL — 2013-05-12 00:08:35Z

Mary.....Thank you for the response.
The people you mentioned are related to my wife's side of the family. John Sr. is her g-grandfather.

Something I need to clarify since the post. Jan Potmesil and his wife Rosa Sixta immigrated to the US about 1882. His father is Jan Potmesil, who married Anna Holanova. Jan and Rosa had a son John in 1870. When they got to the US, to differentiate the two, the son John became John Jr. and Jan was frequently referred to as John Sr.

The land they homesteaded in Box Butte County is still in the family.

The people I need some information on are John Sr's. parents, Jan and Anna (Holanova) Potmesil. I have been searching the Prague Archives, but without success. Jan and Anna did not immigrate to the US. At this point, I do not know if John Sr. had any siblings or if Jan had any brothers.

The location in the Czech Republic is perfect.

Thank you and I'll post again if I find anything.

Warren A. Sokol warrenasokol@yahoo.com

Re: Potmisil in Nebraska

marylevesque256 — 2013-04-14 18:54:40Z

According to Nebraska Kansas Czech Settlers 1891-1895 compiled by Margie Sobotka, pages 95-96, John Potmisil Sr. and Jr. in Box Butte county, pp. 95-96, were from M. Opolany, Podebrady, Caslav. Anna and Josef in Dawes county, same location.

Re: LOOKING FOR SOKOL/SOKOLL AND HAVLOVA

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-04-13 15:33:54Z

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=13.065580&y=49.493892&z=11&...

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=13.065580&y=49.493892&z=11&...

CZ's phone book http://phone.quick.cz

LOOKING FOR SOKOL/SOKOLL AND HAVLOVA

WARRENASOKOL — 2013-04-13 14:20:38Z

LOOKING FOR DESCENDANTS OF JOSEF AND ANNA (HAVLOVA) SOKOL/SOKOLL
JOSEF WAS BORN 2-JUL-1875; ANNA WAS BORN 2-APR-1876.
HE LIVED AT #38 LSTENI AND SHE LIVED AT #20 HRADISTE.
THEY WERE MARRIED IN LSTENI ON 22-JAN-1901.
JOSEF WAS VISITED BY HIS BROTHER, JAN, FROM THE US IN AUG., 1922. AT THAT TIME, HE LIVED IN BLIZEJOV.
THEY ALSO HAD A SISTER, ALZBETA.
AFTER THAT, WE LOST CONTACT.
THANKS!

Re: ancestors

WARRENASOKOL — 2013-04-13 13:59:55Z

On my wife's side of the family, we have a John Potmesil, born 6-APR-1844 in Bohemia. John's parents were Jan and Anna Holanova.....sorry no dates.
Family lived near Caslav.
John came to the US about 1885.
Hope it is a match.

Re: Grandparents relatives

4judy2010 — 2013-04-03 16:20:09Z

dear gail, i received aletter from you several years ago and have been to reach you again i would be very much interested in the information covered in the cards my aunt and uncle sent to your relatives many years ago please respond william bosak

Re: Beranek and Pliner

davidpliener — 2013-03-08 23:50:57Z

Don't know if this links in but we are Pliener in UK. Always understood family from Minsk but just checked uk census 1911 which showed Abraham pliener from Vitebsk.

Would be very interested to learn more if that fits in.

Zeman Roots= Prague, St.Louis, Wisconsin

BeckerRP — 2013-02-25 21:51:10Z

I am looking for family of my gGma FRANZISKA JAMAIN ZEMANN, born 04 March 1848,Prauge,Czech. She emigrated to USA approx.1858 at 10 yrs old. Frances Zeman married Paul Baker/Becker in Prairie Du Chein,Wis.,1865 at 17 yrs old. Her Death occurred in 1924 Dubuque,Ia. I can find no census or immigration records prior to her marriage.

APPARENTLY we are related somehow to ZEMAN and RUZICKA families in Wisconsin and Lankin,NDakota.

ANY clues welcomed. Contact: profwoopie@live.com. Thanks.

Re: Father Josephat Kaminski

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-02-12 17:29:06Z

Thank you for the reply.
I am hoping to find his family. I believe they also lived
in Chystohorb(some of them) and also went to
Praha or area.
In the near future we are going to put a monument in the
village of Chystohorb on the site where the church once stood.
I will put Father Kaminskis name on this.

Re: Father Josephat Kaminski

labald — 2013-02-12 11:31:33Z

About the Basilian priest from Ukraine Josaphat Kaminski definitely knows something Mr. Josef Svoboda, professor Emeritus at University of Toronto, he was with him locked in a communist prison in the priestly division in Leopoldov.
Mr. Svoboda once said: "You can be a Christian intellectual, but can also be Christian believers. There is a difference. Was in jail with basilian priest from Ukraine Josaphat Kaminski, and he always spoke of believers priests. ....He said: Goal is but Christianity, which penetrates to the heart. "
See also http://www.radio.cz/en/section/one-on-one/josef-svoboda-from...
Regards

Father Josephat Kaminski

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-02-12 02:01:21Z

Searching for anyone who knows anything about Father Josepat
Kaminsky/Kamincki,Kaminski
who lived in Prague after the year 1947.
He was in prison for years and when he was released in
the 1950s he lived in Prague until he died there in 1971.
He was the priest before in the village of Chystohorb/Czystohorb a Lemko/Ruthenian village now in Poland.
He was there from 1939 until about 1946 .
I have a photo.

Re: Hledam deti od Pana Vaclav Vorlov

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-11 21:38:09Z

You're welcome. 10 years not that long ago.
You still have an address that the photo came in?

Re: Hledam deti od Pana Vaclav Vorlov

Vvevers96 — 2013-02-11 21:31:59Z

As far as I know, he is already dead and I do not know of any family.other then a photo sent about 10 or more years ago. But thanks

Re: Hledam deti od Pana Vaclav Vorlov

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-11 20:55:50Z

did you already look in http://phone.quick.cz

Hledam deti od Pana Vaclav Vorlov

vvevers — 2013-02-11 19:19:08Z

Hledam deti nebo rodinu od Pana Vaclav Vorel. Narozenej prvniho rijan 1924, Novy Bydzov. Bydlel na Hradcanah asi 20 let a pak nekam odstehoval. Mel prvni zenu - Veru Cisarova - a pak mel druhou ale nevim kdo.
Kdyby nekdo vedel, odpste
keduji

Re: POTMESIL Josef

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 23:00:10Z

Alois came first in 1895 and settled in Nebraska (Lindsey) and then Bozena, Stephen, Miena vaclav, ALoisie came at differnt times The one you found for Alois was my grandfather returning to Czech to get a wife (used his first wife name to bring her through elisisland). The only one I can't find is Vaclav and Anna (parents) and youngest children may be only marie and bohunil (ben). I thought the JOsef in 1921 was coming to see his uncle Joseph so will have to check that out. THanks again for all your help.

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 17:36:39Z

You're welcome.
http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ethnic.neczech/mb.ashx
Zlatica

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 17:31:26Z

That is where my problem lies, Thanks for the help though.

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 17:31:21Z

That is where my problem lies, Thanks for the help though.

Re: POTMESIL Josef

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 17:26:35Z

Potmesil, Josef Lindsay, Neb. 32 1889 1921
Josef was in US in 1901 and July 1921; going to father Vaclav POTMESIL, Box 91, Lindsay, Nebr.; left an uncle Josef POTMESIL Klipec p. Velim

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=15.144966&y=50.080291&z=13&...
http://www.mapy.cz/#x=15.144966&y=50.080291&z=13&...

the 1930 census, did it have notation Na-naturalized; Al-alien or Pa-first paper for the children that you are looking for their arrival manifest?

wrong manifest comes up for Alois POTMESIL
Potmesil, Alois 36 1875 1911
AND
Potmesil, Fanny 23 1888 1911 Maybe you have located the corresponding one.

Did your grandfather Alois come with the group that you are looking for their manifest?

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 17:04:36Z

You're welcome.
So if they did come in 1902 than were are they? Possible the both names were transcribed that we can not decipher.

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 16:40:28Z

Yes went to the county seat and got my grnadfather Alois's paper and he was nationalized, Stephans intent but never nationiazed. Four census said 1902 and I did find the whole family in Lindsey Nebraska in 1910.

Thanks

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 16:12:27Z

Take a look at this NY EI arrival manifest.
Podomy, Alois 3 1889 1892
Podomy, Anna 31 1861 1892
Podomy, Anna 4 1888 1892
Podomy, Marie 18 1874 1892
Podomy, Rudolf 5 1887 1892
Podomy, Ruzena 1 1891 1892
Podomy, Vaclav 41 1851 1892 view
Podomy, Vaclav 6 1886 1892
The family going to Illinois.
You checked in Galveston? But would your family have a reason to come thru that port to America?

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 15:58:07Z

Just because the census says 1902 does not mean that the ancestor might not have made an error when they arrived.
Any other census they show up?
You have Alois's and Stefan's intent & petition?

Pronocil, Anna Sadlotin 32 1868 1900
Pronocil, Anna 4 1896 1900
Pronocil, Antonia Sadlotin 11 1889 1900
Pronocil, Josef 0 1900 1900
Pronocil, Marie Sadlotin 5 1895 1900
Pronocil, Voclar Sadlotin 37 1863 1900
The family going to Omaha, Nebraska. I know, their surname is not POTMESIL but the combination of Vaclav and Anna like yours.

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 15:31:44Z

to late for castle garden but looked there also, they came in about 1902 per census, were in Nebraska in 1910 census. There is no chance that I know that they were nationized, all I know is Alois and Stefn were.

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 14:50:29Z

You're welcome.
Vaclav and Anna could have come before NY EI processing center opened. You looked in www.castlegarden.org
By any chance Anna, Josef, Bohumil or Marie were naturalized citizen? Their intent & petition would have a date, ship name, port of departure etc.

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 13:40:58Z

This would have been two of the children that came. I was told that we had family in Canada but found no solid connection (Potmesil or Kasal). The ones I am looking for is Vaclav (1851-1933) and Anna (Kasalova) Potmesil (1875-1968) and Josef 1890-1957, Bohumil 1892-1939) and Marie Anna (1894-1966) there were Alois, Bozena, Stefen, Miena, Vaclav and Aloisie and they all came over at different times and have found all of them. Just can't find Parents Vaclov and Anna and the three youngest children. THanks for helping.

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-08 13:40:33Z

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-08 03:00:10Z

http://www.mapy.cz/#x=15.144966&y=50.080291&z=13&...

found these 2 arriving NY EI
Potmesil, Bozena Pnov 25 1877 1902
Potmesil, Vaclav Pnov 17 1885 1902
I'm sure you found them.
Would there be a reason for them to go to Canada and then come down to USA?

Re: Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-07 23:45:04Z

Names were Vaclav (James) Potmesil born in Gluckzu #11 Austria Hungrey, and Anna (Kaselova) Potmesil and I have uses Czeck names for the children also. In Usa they used both from time to time. I also looked into intent and petitions and there were none.

Re: Immigration in 1902

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-07 23:14:33Z

Do you know their place of birth?
Mary, Joseph and Ben are their English first names so they would not be coming to America as such unless this would be their return from a visit.
You might want to look into an intent & petition, as most likely someone was naturalized.

Immigration in 1902

bmdezua — 2013-02-07 18:32:45Z

I have found my Great grandparents in Nebraska with their son and his family in 1910 census and they show 1902 as immagraition date. I have checked ancestry (all records there, I have checked Elisisland and Steves site. Checked all the Czech books on immagration and have had no luck finding them. It was Valcav and Anna Potmesil and their youngest childern Mary, Joseph, Ben. Found all the others any help and/or ideas to try next would be appreciated

Vondracek, Vandrasek research

Wendzel23 — 2013-02-05 02:15:28Z

Looking for information on John Joseph Vondracek. He came to America about 1886 from Austria to Chicago. Married Marie Recek (Rechova, Rechek) March 23, 1888 in Chicago. On his death record it has Joseph Vondracek as his father and Anna Zatak as his mother. John and Marie moved to St. Joe, Michigan where he died in 1907. Marie moved to the Watervliet area and died there in 1931. They had 7 children. Looking for any information about siblings or parents of either John or Marie. Vondracek was changed to Vandrasek by John and Marie.

Re: Ceske Slovo old newspaper

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-01-27 02:15:59Z

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.czechrepublic...

Czeske Slovo old newspaper

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-01-27 02:07:56Z

There must be someone who knows about this newspaper
and where I can find out about the names of all its
past editors

Rev. Father Josefat Kaminski

Dianne_Melnyk — 2013-01-27 02:04:55Z

Searching for an information about a Priest
Father Josefat Kamilnski who was the parish Priest
for the Ruthenian/Lemko village Czystohorb next to Komancza.
He was a Greek Catholic priest in other places before that but was in
village Czystohorb around 1939 until about 1946. He died in 1971
and is buried in Prague,I heard.
It would be good to hear from anyone who knew him.
He was well liked and I have found an amazing photo at the home of my uncle. My mother remembers him from her holy communion.

Re: Bacina/Cigler/Chmelar families

mikekba — 2012-12-20 23:56:16Z

Well the site won't let me message you directly. Drop me a line mike@bacina.net

Re: Bacina/Cigler/Chmelar families

mikekba — 2012-12-20 23:55:31Z

Hi Ria23457,

I might be able to assist. I'll send you a PM.

Mike

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

gpst3e4803 — 2012-12-14 08:29:51Z

all your help is wonderful. Thank you very much. I think that is amazing.

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

aksamitnik01 — 2012-12-14 05:40:00Z

Parish books for Nevězice http://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/DA?lang=cs&menu=0&doctre...

According to index Václav Bejna, son of Josef was born 28.6.1893. I don´t know why but many Václavs were renamed James in America (James is Jakub in Czech, not Václav), so that could be the one you´re looking for.
http://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/DA?lang=cs&menu=3&id=741...
Unfortunately records for that year are not in archive yet so they aren´t online.

And hey, the index also says that Václav was born in Nevězice Nr. 26 - my ancestors lived in that house one hundred years ago before that!

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

gpst3e4803 — 2012-12-14 01:20:56Z

James Bejna's name was born 1894 died in Ohio 1939, His father's name was Josef born 1861 died 1940. His mom's name was Marie 1866 - 1927 all born in Nevezice

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

aksamitnik01 — 2012-12-12 05:41:33Z

Do you know name your grandfather´s parents? There were two Bejna families in Nevězice. Unfortunately birth records for 1894 are not yet in archive, so they are not digitalized (last one in archive is the book from years 1874-1891.

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-12-11 22:23:48Z

You're welcome.
Not doubting your grandmother BUT I would try to find some kind of document to make sure that he was born in Prague.

what about your queries on Czech Republic Ancestry board
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.czechrepublic...

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

gpst3e4803 — 2012-12-11 21:39:08Z

MY GRANDMOTHER TOLD ME.

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

aksamitnik01 — 2012-12-11 05:25:02Z

Prague archive http://www.ahmp.cz/eng/index.html
All of its registry books are digitalized http://www.ahmp.cz/eng/index.html?wstyle=2&catalogue=1&a...

You will have to know at least approximately where he was born. There were a lot of churches and each had it´s own books, if you don´t know, you will have to go through one by one.

Re: NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

ZlaticaBeca — 2012-12-11 02:57:14Z

You have document that says he was born in Prague?
www.nacr.cz
http://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/

NEED TO OBTAIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM PRAGUE

gpst3e4803 — 2012-12-11 02:17:56Z

MY GRANDFATHER James Bejna waS BORN IN PRAGUE. IS THERE A WEBSITE I CAN GET AND TRY TO FIND HIS INFO?

Re: Hrabets

Dianne_Melnyk — 2012-10-12 23:57:31Z

Yes
My oldest Uncle ,still alive ,has spoken about the
Priest from the village of Lupkiw/Lupkow which is now
in Poland.
The Priest,Father Teodor Hrabets, had 2 sons who went to school in Prague.
One of the sons according to my uncle was maybe an
editor or worked for the newspaper Czeske Slovo maybe
around the 1940s.
I am having trouble with finding records in Poland greek Catholic for the village of Lupkiw/Lupkow. I have written
letters of request and no replies.
This is why I thought maybe I could find out something in
Praha. There may be a family connection.

Re: Hrabets

marylevesque256 — 2012-10-12 18:50:39Z

Any chance the name was Hrabec? That would be pronounced like Hrabets.