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Guggenheim Vienna Austria 1835 - 1900

MorrisTitcombe82 — 2013-06-19 13:50:11Z

Re. Guggenheim.(Or Soundex). Five Boys and One Girl, born 1820 - 1830 in Pesta (Pesthe), Budapest, Hungary. May have lived from approx.1834 in Vienna, Austria. Known Son 1, Julius Nicholaus Franz Guggenheim, came to England in 1848. Known Daughter Amalie Guggenheim, moved to Vienna.
Any more info. greatly appreciated. MJT.

Re: family history

Mohnbauer — 2013-06-01 19:07:21Z

How to find jewish files in former Austrian-Hungarian countries
Info in german:
http://familia-austria.net/forschung/index.php?title=Jüdisch...

In present Austria: http://familia-austria.net/forschung/index.php?title=J%C3%BC...
https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Austria_Jewish_Re...
Vienna -> https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://fami...

Trebitsch listed for Vienna
from
-> Nikolsburg (Moravia)
-> Mattersdorf (Hungary)
http://www.jewishfamilies.at/2.html
http://www.jewishfamilies.at/index.html
http://www.jewishfamilies.at/5.html

Re: family history

rshapiro0321 — 2013-05-27 13:15:31Z

Cecilia

Sigmund Trebitsch - is my great grandfather on my mother's side. I traced it down he married Joanne - they were both both in what is now Republic of Chex just outside of Trebic.

They lived and raised a family in Vienna.

Attached is a picture of Sigmund's Great Great Grandson along the side of his Grave. His wife Joanne and Ernestine are buried there. Ernestine would be a great aunt to me who dies at 18 of asthma.

You and I are probably distant cousins.

What I am trying to trace down is there was a pediatrician in the family who from what I was told saved the life of Franz Joseph's infant son.

If you would like to reach me you can at rshapiro2@msn.com

Bob Shapiro

Re: family history - Sigmund Trebitsch

rshapiro0321 — 2013-05-27 13:05:59Z

Terézia

He is also my Great Grandfather.

I have attached his grave stone along with Joanne great grandmother.

You can reach me at rshapiro2@msn.com

You are most likely a distant cousin of mine.

Bob Shapiro

Re: Looking for family - Kern, Summers/Sommers, Platzer

gratzaustria1947 — 2013-05-12 21:02:38Z

Please contact me at dee33kern15@comcast.net I am very interested in your connection to the Kern family.

zimmel children

jode1959 — 2013-05-06 03:14:51Z

i,m looking for any information on zimmel children that died in a house fire. story is that three children where lost in a house fire. my brother in laws grandmother was one of the surviving children of this fire. maria (mary) zimmel was born in 1868. some records say she was born in veinna. her father was wencil zimmel born 1841. her mother was maria jeschko born in 1846. they spoke german.

Re: Graf family information

steve_balog48 — 2013-04-29 03:52:37Z

Colin here is my email.
Good to header from you again.
Steve

Re: Graf family information

liolea51 — 2013-04-29 00:47:03Z

Hai Colin
please contact me to my e mail
as i have somthing about Graf
from Wien
{Regina}
Lia

Liohale@gmail.com

Re: Janos Reitenbach & Anna Graf

yugaya — 2013-04-28 18:21:34Z

Easiest way to obtain or research original vital records of your ancestors is if you register with Kalocsa Roman Catholic Church diocese e-archive.

More info on that archive including the links for registering you will find here:

http://www.rodoslovlje.com/forum/vojvodina/kalocsa-roman-cat...

and here:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.voj...

If you have any additional questions please post on Yugoslavia General board:

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.eeurope.yugoslavia.gen...

att.: obtained via Kalocsa diocese e-archive, original birth record of Anna Reitenbach, year 1911., Apatin, (then) Austria-Hungary, (now) Serbia. According to this birth record both of her parents were also born in this parish.

***

"Rodoslovlje" Serbian Genealogy Society
www.rodoslovlje.com

Re: Looking for family - Kern, Summers/Sommers, Platzer

lanzafameb — 2013-04-27 15:44:52Z

I don't know if you are still connected to Ancestry, but if you are I would love to hear from you. I am a member of the Sucher family, originally from Doiber, now in St. Louis, Missouri. I have information on Anton and Cecelia Kern and family and am trying to find how they are related to the Sucher family. I believe they are based on info my mother, 95 yrs. old, remembers.

Re: Familie PACHNER

luisito_gango — 2013-04-24 19:47:33Z

Hallo, ich bin Mexikaner, aber meine Urgrossmutter und ihre Familie sin nach Mexiko gekommen, das war in 1914, ich suche familienmitglieder in österreich, tschechische reublik und deutschland, meine oma hat mir erzählt, dass die familie kamm währen der ersten weltkrieg, und sie waren aus österreich, ihr vater war deutschleher, usw,
bitte ich suche mehr familie
meine oma ist in Cadiz Spanien Geboren, ihre eltern waren von Ö. Franziska und Ludwig Pachner

Re: barnard walford

benfergusson15 — 2013-04-22 12:34:52Z

Hi Sharon
I am having problems with my sending emails new computer
So will have to get someone to look at it
Regards Ben

AW: Re: genealogy/seek paternal grandfather's family

wolfrum90 — 2013-04-21 16:32:05Z

Guten Abend.
Ich habe einige Buech in meinem Stammbaum gefunden.
Auch einer von ihnen erwähnter Karl Buech ist dabei.

Karl Buech *30.04.1859 in Olimpia, Turek
Karl Gottlieb Buech *30.05.1867 in Shitomir, Wolhynien, +Kanada

Könnte einer von beiden der von ihnen erwähnte Karl Buech sein?
Der Karl hatt noch weitere 7 Geschwister.
Seine Eltern waren Simon Buech *28.10.1837 in Police Male, Kolo und Anna Kristine Klaass (Klaus?) *14.09.1837 in Leszcze, Kolo

Eine Schwester des Karl Buech hat meinen direkten Vorfahren geheiratet, Karl Eisbrenner *1876

Vielleicht könnten wir uns über Buech austauschen?

Viele Grüße, Christian Wolfrum-Roggensack

Re: barnard walford

hammers19 — 2013-04-18 04:33:00Z

That's strange, try shazsimmons@gmail.com.

Re: barnard walford

benfergusson15 — 2013-04-17 23:58:26Z

Hi Sharon
I tried to send you info on your email address but to no avail regrds Ben

Re: barnard walford

hammers19 — 2013-04-17 04:47:46Z

Hello Ben, great to hear from you. It would be good to swap info on our lines if that's ok with you. My email address is csscsim@ntlworld.com. Look forward to hearing from you. Regards Sharon.

Re: barnard walford

benfergusson15 — 2013-04-16 21:49:01Z

I too am a seventh generation descendent from Jane Malloy her Daughter Elizabeth married Capt Joshua Fergusson

Re: Familie PACHNER

Mohnbauer — 2013-04-04 13:17:41Z

Um welchen Zeitraum handelt es sich?

Es gäbe Historische Meldedaten von 1904-1975, da bekommt man oft einige Info. Aber ein klein wenig vorhandene Daten wären wohl nötig.Anfrage direkt per e-mail oder online-Formular verwenden. In dem Fall vielleicht besser per e-Mail:
Historische Meldeunterlagen (1904-1975) - Auskunft
http://www.wien.gv.at/amtshelfer/kultur/archiv/forschung/his...
Online-Formular: https://www.wien.gv.at/formularserver2/user/formular.aspx?pi...

Familie PACHNER

GERTI5 — 2013-04-04 12:59:17Z

Wer hat Aufzeichnungen bzw. Informationen von Familie Pachner (Rudolf und Elisabeth), Wien?
Bin dankbar für jeden Hinweis.

Digitized registers for Vienna

davsuj — 2013-04-03 19:27:30Z

A couple of weeks ago I saw a posting stating that several Viennese parishes had recently become digitized and available online at http://matricula-online.eu. But I can no longer find the posting or the list, and there are so many parishes on the website, it is difficult to sort through. Does anybody have that list or a link to the original posting?

Thanks.

Re: KAISERGRUBER

mariepaulekaiser — 2013-04-03 12:37:26Z

Many thanks for your reply and the information. I knew some of these. For the others, I take note and I will write there.
Sincerely yours.

Re: KAISERGRUBER

Mohnbauer — 2013-04-02 13:41:01Z

Kaiserebersdorf gehört seit 1892 zum 11.Wiener Gemeindebezirk SIMMERING:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiserebersdorf

Für Kaiserebersdorf sind noch keine Matriken online
http://matricula-online.eu/
Deshalb direkt in der Pfarre wegen der Eltern oder sonstiges nachfragen für -> "Lorenz, dieses in Kaiserebersdorf am 8. März 1786 geboren (Sohn von Ignaz, Oberfeuerwerker von 2 k.k. Feld-Artillerie Regiment."
Pfarre Kaiserebersdorf: http://www.erzdioezese-wien.at/edw/organisation/vikariate/de...

Vikariat Wien-Stadt - Dekanat Stadtdekanat 11:
http://www.erzdioezese-wien.at/edw/organisation/vikariate/de...
Alle Dekanate: http://www.erzdioezese-wien.at/edw/organisation/vikariate/de...

Re: KAISERGRUBER

Mohnbauer — 2013-04-02 13:39:40Z

Keine Entschuldigung nötig, das deutsch ist ziemlich gut! ;)

Der Name kommt nicht sehr häufig vor!

Österreichweit nur 22 Kaisergruber im österr. Telefonbuch in 3 Bundesländern:
Niederösterreich (15)
Oberösterreich (6)
Tirol (1)
http://www.herold.at/telefonbuch/kaisergruber/

1 Person in der Grabsuche Wien:
Vorname Erna
Nachname Kaisergruber
Geburtsdatum 31.08.1930
Lebensalter 74
Sterbedatum 07.05.2005
Bestattungsdatum 20.05.2005
Friedhof Wiener Zentralfriedhof
Gruppe 24
Reihe 65
Nummer 32
Grabnutzungsrecht bis 20.05.2015
Weiters in diesem Grab bestattet
Knirsch Alois 79
Knirsch Maria 72 born 14.06.1885
Kühhaas Aloisia 68
Kühhaas Leopold 78
http://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de?submit=true&na...
Nachfrage bei der Verwaltung: Friedhöfe Wien GmbH zu eventuell mehr Details.
http://www.wien-konkret.at/soziales/friedhof/

Zur selben Person auch bei den "Historischen Meldedaten Wien" nachfragen, da bei der Grabsuche das Geburts-und Sterbedatum vorhanden ist. Vielleicht kann man eine Verbindung zu den von Ihnen angegebenen Personen herausfinden. Meist bekommt man dadurch die Daten der Eltern und Geschwister der gefragten Person.
e-mail-Adresse -> zu finden unter "Zuständige Stelle":
Historische Meldeunterlagen (1904-1975)
http://www.wien.gv.at/amtshelfer/kultur/archiv/forschung/his...
Gleichzeitig auch nach diesen Geburtsdaten fragen -> "Und es gibt auch Georg (im Jahre 1813 k.u.k. 31 Linien Infanterie), Michael (im Jahre 1801 28 infanterie Regiment),und Lorenz, dieses in Kaiserebersdorf am 8. März 1786 geboren (Sohn von Ignaz, Oberfeuerwerker von 2 k.k. Feld-Artillerie Regiment."

Forschung im Wiener Stadt- und Landesarchiv
http://www.wien.gv.at/kultur/archiv/nutzung/forschung/index....
Tracing your Ancestors in Vienna - Some Guidelines
http://www.wien.gv.at/english/history/archives/ancestors.htm...

Wegen der Militärdaten im Kriegsarchiv nachfragen:
http://www.austria.gv.at/site/5003/default.aspx
Infos dazu: http://www.austria.gv.at/site/5001/default.aspx
http://www.oesta.gv.at/site/5222/default.aspx

Peterwardein heute -> Petrovaradin, Okrug Južna Bačka, Autonome Provinz Wojwodina, Serbien
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrovaradin
Zu Serbien eventuell in diesem serbischen Forum nachfragen - allerdings auf englisch:
http://www.rodoslovlje.com/contact
http://www.rodoslovlje.com/en/forum

KAISERGRUBER

mariepaulekaiser — 2013-04-01 17:16:38Z

Guten Tag,
Wer kann mir helfen oder in die Staatsarchiv zu Wien gehen? Entschuldigungen meine Fehler, ich wohne in Belgiën und spreche franzözisch.
Meine Vorfahren kommen aus Wien und/oder Umgebungen. Ich suche hauptsächlich
Johann Kaisergruber und Ignaz Kaisergruber. Sie waren Offiziere in der Armee ihrer Majestät der österreichische Kaiser.
Johann ist in Belgien gekommen zu wohnen. Ich suche Geburtsdatum und Ort (ungefähr in 1762 in Wien (???) geboren), auch das Datum und 0rt seiner Ehe mit Maria Josepha Francesca TUIJTTENS (ich habe Ehe in Belgiën nicht gefunden). Ich denke, dass er der Bruder von Ignaz ist.
Ignaz Kaisergruber ist im Jahre 1812 geadelt worden, um 44 Jahren in der Armee gedient zu haben und hat das praedicat von Steilenburg erhalten
Er war Oberstlieutenant und District Commandant Peterwardeiner garnison. Er ist mit Maria verheiratet, aber wo und wann? Er ist am 14. März 1826 an Peterwardein gestorben.

Und es gibt auch Georg (im Jahre 1813 k.u.k. 31 Linien Infanterie), Michael (im Jahre 1801 28 infanterie Regiment),und Lorenz, dieses in Kaiserebersdorf am 8. März 1786 geboren (Sohn von Ignaz, Oberfeuerwerker von 2 k.k. Feld-Artillerie Regiment).
Also für alle diese Personen möchte ich auch die Namen der Eltern kennen. Ich weiß, dass ich viele Fragen stelle, aber wenn ich nur eine Antwort erhalten konnte, wäre ich sehr glücklich .
Vielen Dank im voraus.

Julius Koessler

odiahnen — 2013-03-19 13:45:36Z

Wer hat bitte die Möglichkeit, den Sterbeeintrag von
JULIUS KOESSLER *?? +31.10.1929 in Wien für mich rauszusuchen?
Seine Adresse war Wien XVIII, Dürwaringstr. 20.

Vielen Dank!

Re: Family Pindter

alexgarna — 2013-03-13 04:48:46Z

Hi Trudy, have we been in contact already? I and Loedegar Knessler have established contact and have also established contact with family in Vienna and in NY.

Please let us know if you have a data regarding the family. Rudolf was either cousin or brother of my great grandmother Giuseppa Carolina Elisa Pindter v. Pindtershofen born in Milan in 1847.

Kindest Regards,

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

davsuj — 2013-03-12 19:05:43Z

Thanks. That is a great site. I have been using it, but unfortunately nothing specific showed for the family I am researching.

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

pippi321 — 2013-03-12 18:22:24Z

take also a look on http://www.genteam.at

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

BeatrixAnna — 2013-03-12 08:24:19Z

You are quie correct, only one parish in Vienna itself is online, Unsere Liebe Frau zu den Schotten which is right in the centre of town.

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

davsuj — 2013-03-11 19:06:23Z

Thanks for the link. I will follow up with these people.

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

davsuj — 2013-03-11 19:05:08Z

Thanks very much for the response. I have looked at http://matricula-online.eu/ and found some useful information. I am now in need of digital indexes for Vienna - not sure which parish, unfortunately. Am I correct that Vienna isn't yet digitized?

Thanks again.

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

BeatrixAnna — 2013-03-11 15:17:52Z

May I suggest that you contact the genealogist team at

www.historiker.at/

These are highly professional people and they all speak and write excellent English. I have used their services myself and have been more than satisfied. They were recommended to me by one of the archives in Vienna who did not have the manpower to carry out my research themselves.
Happy Hunting!

Krenek & Axenkopf

jagd52 — 2013-03-08 16:19:02Z

Hallo,
ich versuche gerade meinen Stammbaum zu vervollständigen und bin auf der Suche nach Verwandtschaft der Namen Krenek bzw. Axenkopf.
Krenek stammt aus Urspitz (Tschechei / Cvrčovice ), Axenkopf war Nähe Wien (Matzen) heimisch.
Meine Oma hieß Stefanie Krenek, ihre Brüder Anton und Gerhard.
Eltern waren Anton und Sophie Krenek (geb. Axenkopf).
Es ist ein Rudolf Axenkopf in Matzen beerdigt, sowie eine Rosa Axenkopf und ein Johann Axenkopf. Familiäre Zusammenhänge sind schwierig, ich kann fast niemanden mehr fragen...
Ich bin über jeden Hinweis dankbar!
Gerne auch an meine E-Mail Adresse: kl_diva@gmx.net

Danke!

Re: Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

Mohnbauer — 2013-03-04 09:57:11Z

www.ihff.at
http://www.felixgundacker.at/felixgundackerkontakt.htm

have you looked if is online what you need for Archdiocese Vienna-area?
http://matricula-online.eu/
-> AT Österreich / Austria
-> AT-W Wien, rk Erzdiözese / rk archdiocese

Dekanate Archdiocese Vienna with their parishes:
http://www.erzdioezese-wien.at/edw/organisation/vikariate/de...

which parish-church in which district of Vienna or Vienna-surrounding do you exactly need?

Professional genealogist to research family in Vienna

davsuj — 2013-03-04 06:53:43Z

I have been doing research online via digital archives, but have hit a brick wall with an Austrian ancestor from Vienna. The registers for that region have apparently not been digitized, so I will need to find somebody who can personally go to the archives. Has anybody hired professional help in the area? I have communicated with a few genealogists that I found on the web, and am not sure they are the right match. Any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Father's death certificate & probate information

pippi321 — 2013-02-28 19:23:10Z

...and what´s about your own birth certificate? Isn´t your father named with date of birth, place of birth, maybe also his parents?

Re: Father's death certificate & probate information

Mohnbauer — 2013-02-28 15:40:23Z

no of the stated Elisabeth (Lisl) Scholz has a Karl Scholz in same grave:
http://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de?submit=true&na...

possibility also can be (if both in same grave buried) that the grave not longer exists.
so the historical registry-dates can show where he buried, which date he exactly died and so on.

Re: Father's death certificate & probate information

Mohnbauer — 2013-02-28 15:32:59Z

one Karl Scholz at gravesearch Vienna who died 1970 (page2), but born 1899, buried cemetery Ottakring:
http://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de?submit=true&na...
Vorname Karl
Nachname Scholz
Geburtsdatum 23.09.1899
Lebensalter 70
Sterbedatum 17.08.1970
Bestattungsdatum 24.08.1970
Friedhof Ottakring
Gruppe M
Nummer 37
Grabnutzungsrecht bis 22.09.2018
in same grave:
name/ born/ age
Rotter Leopold 09.10.1909 78
Rotter Maria 08.03.1905 60
Scholz Augusta 22.06.1909 85

the online-formular for historical registry records is not of good help for an english-lingual person:
https://www.wien.gv.at/formularserver2/user/formular.aspx?pi...
better to ask directly about e-mail - but the records stated only for 1904-1975 - e-mail-adress at "Zuständige Stelle" - but you can ask for Karl Scholz:
Historische Meldeunterlagen (1904-1975) - Auskunft
Historische Meldeunterlagen (1904-1975) - Auskunft
http://www.wien.gv.at/amtshelfer/kultur/archiv/forschung/his...

Re: Father's death certificate & probate information

pippi321 — 2013-02-28 10:10:42Z

direct link:

https://www.wien.gv.at/formularserver2/user/formular.aspx?pi...

Re: Father's death certificate & probate information

pippi321 — 2013-02-28 10:04:06Z

http://www.wien.gv.at/amtshelfer/dokumente/verwaltung/meldes...

http://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de?submit=true&na...

Another possibility is the baptism record of your mother. Sometimes there is a hint on marriage (parish and time).

Father's death certificate & probate information

Hedy0030 — 2013-02-28 01:44:13Z

Greetings from San Francisco...I am looking for the death certificate of my father Karl Scholz who was born in Vienna either 1902 or possibly 1903. I believe he may have passed away circa 1970 or a few years after. His spouse Lisl Scholz pre-deceased him several years earlier. My parents were divorced when I was a baby and contact with my dad was sporadic and dropped off when my mother and I left Austria. Am also curious as to who inherited as he had no other children.
Thank you so very much for any assistance,
Brigitta Scholz Agopian

Re: Lillian "Bunni" GOLLERSTEPPER Gallert (b. 1935, d. 2010), Klosterneuburg

pippi321 — 2013-02-27 17:54:44Z

http://www.genteam.at list:

Sigmund Gollerstepper oo 1896 Lina Petersilka. Ottakring (Vienna), Reihenzahl 657, NR 86002.

Lina Petersilka * 1874 Ottakring. Parents: Sigmund Petersilka, Katharina Fleischmann
Nr. 192978 Reihenzahl 111.

Sigmund oo Katharina 1867; Tempelgasse, Nr 287047, Reihenzahl 775

You can ask at the "Matrikenamt" of the IKG Vienna (Israelische Kultusgemeinde) (1826 bis 1938)
E-mail: w.eckstein@ikg-wien.at

Lillian "Bunni" GOLLERSTEPPER Gallert (b. 1935, d. 2010), Klosterneuburg

Zachary_l_stone — 2013-02-27 16:41:21Z

I am researching my grandmother Lillian "Bunni" Korman (b. 1935, d. 2010). She came to America from Klosterneuburg, Austria in 1938, which was a small farming town about 20 miles outside of Vienna. She was fleeing Nazi control in Austria and happened to escape due to her father’s (Rudy) military history. He had already been deported to a concentration camp (later got out and escaped with rest of family) but he had saved the newly elected mayor of Vienna’s life during their service in World War 1. He was able to get my grandmother, her mother (Ann) and himself out of the country. Rudy Gallert and Ann Gallert, who changed their last name from Gollerstepper to Gallert when they came to America, owned a small general store in Austria called “Sigmund Gollerstepper & Son.” My grandmother Lillian “Bunni” is an only child and came to America at the age of 3 (November 1938) on the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt. They settled in Washington Heights, New York. Ann's parents are Julius and Sarha Hoenberg, who are from Czechoslovakia. They were sent to Riga, Lithuania in cattle trains to be shot and buried in mass graves. Rudy parents were Sigmund "Oppa" Gollerstepper, who lived to be 102 years old (d. 1974) and Caroline Gollerstepper (d. 1943). Sigmund and Caroline came to America in 1939, one year after my grandmother. Sigmund lived in Hamden, CT and there was a story in the Bridgeport Post about the 97 year old man who quit smoking, which was written about him. Lillian "Bunni" married my grandfather Jerome Korman, and lived in Hamden, CT, Spring Valley, NY and Orange, CT throughout the majority of their adult lives. They later moved to Hunters Run community in Boyton Beach, FL in the winter and resided in Derby, CT in the summer. If you know anything about my grandmother or any of her relatives please help me out.

Researching: Korman, Gallert, Gollerstepper, Hoenberg

Zachary Lee Stone (University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT)

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

Mohnbauer — 2013-02-21 09:21:07Z

Skalica: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skalica
https://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&gs_rn=4&gs_ri=psy-...

here old adressbooks for Vienna, but shows only the owners of houses(to get adress). but so not sure if you also can find the taylor were this Ludwig worked in Ottakring, if he was not a house-owner there. but maybe you look through the district. Ottakring = 16th district
Svoboda: http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/periodical/pageview/109...
http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/periodical/structure/24...
http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/periodical/structure/24...
http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/wbrobv/content/titleinf...
http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/periodical/structure/22...
http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/nav/classification/2609

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

peterseb — 2013-02-20 17:07:40Z

I have found a Ludwig Schvadlenka in Vienna in 1905. He was 19 at that time and from Skalica. I had looked at the Skalica records, both on film and on the internet, I couldn't find any Anna Schvadlenka who would match with my Ludwig's mother.

It would be interesting if this was the same Ludwig Schvadlenka even if he isn't related.

PJS

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

peterseb — 2013-02-20 13:06:50Z

I have the manifest with Ludwig (Sudwig), Maria Dindl, Josephine and Suszanna Filipek for their arrival in New York. It is odd!

I have don't think Ludwig and Josephine were married. In the 1910 census Josepine (34 years) and Susie (13 years) are living with Thomas Filipek in Chicago. There are two other children Mary and Thomas born in Chicago. I have their Baptismal records at Saint Michael the Archangel in Chicago.

Ludovicus šeblonka was married to Maria Dyndl at the same church on 17 April 1910.

Thomas Trenčansky was a witness to the wedding. Thomas Trenčansky and his wife Francisca were the Godparents at the Baptism of Maria Filipek.

The Vienna Meldzettel has a record 18/5/1903 for Ludwik šeblonka, Schneidergehilfe, born in Wien, 27 years, single and Catholic. It looks like he left 22/5/1905 for "Amerika, Ciggago" He was living in District XVI (OttaKring). His previous residence also was District XVI. It looks like he was working for Josef Svoboda, his landlord? was Math? Kasterec?

In the 1910 US census Ludwig Shevlongi, 33, a tailor is living with his wife Maria in Chicago. Both are listed as Ger. German?, and emmigrated in 1905.

Thank you for your intest and continued help.
PJS

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

Mohnbauer — 2013-02-20 10:53:32Z

shipmanifest says:
Ludwig Filipek, age 30, taylor, slovak,
came with Josefine, age 30, labourer and Suszanna Filipek, age 9, went to his brother T.Filipek in 4 J 23 Loomis St.
some misspellings like als Zlatica stated.

First Name: Sudwik
Last Name: Filipek
Ethnicity: Hungary, Slovak
Last Place of Residence: Lab
Date of Arrival: May 22, 1905
Age at Arrival: 30y Gender: M Marital Status: M
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=SUDWIK&a...

First Name: Josefine
Last Name: Filipek
Ethnicity: Hungary, Slovak
Last Place of Residence: Lab
Date of Arrival: May 22, 1905
Age at Arrival: 30y Gender: F Marital Status: M
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=JOSEFINE...

First Name: Isuszana
Last Name: Filipek
Ethnicity: Hungary, Slovak
Last Place of Residence: Lab
Date of Arrival: May 22, 1905
Age at Arrival: 9y Gender: F Marital Status: S
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=ISUSZANA...

Ship of Travel: La Bretagne
Port of Departure: Havre
Manifest Line Number: 0018

it looks with them traveled (line 17 above Ludwig):
First Name: Maria
Last Name: Dindl
Ethnicity: Hungary, Slovak
Last Place of Residence: Lab
Date of Arrival: May 22, 1905
Age at Arrival: 20y Gender: F Marital Status: S
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=MARIA&am...
it looks he was married 1905 with Josefine. Maria Dindl is stated single that time. maybe Josefine died later.....Maria Dindl is stated to go to cousin R. or K. Hreben? in 4 J 37 S.Loomis St. or 4 J 3 J S.Loomis St.?

it looks really that Josefine was his wife as stated "by whom was passage paid?"
Maria Dindl - himself -> herself
Ludwig - himself
Josefine - husband
Susanna - father

for me it does not look that Ludwig was registered 1905 in Vienna/Wien, possible only was visiting someone there. But Lab, Slovakia is east of Vienna about the border - not far away! maybe you have to search there.
Lab, Slovakia: https://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&q=Lab+Slovakia&bav...

Slovakia:
http://www.slovakia.org/
http://www.centroconsult.sk/genealogy/index.html
http://homepages.bmi.net/jjaso/
http://www.centroconsult.sk/genealogy/services.html
http://www.iabsi.com/gen/public/
places Slowakia A-Z: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_St%C3%A4dte_und_Gemei...

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

Mohnbauer — 2013-02-20 10:52:48Z

a connection arriving 1911 same adress, 4739 Loomishstr., Chicago to husband and father .....?(firstname a real misspelling no idea which one) Filipek:
First Name: Terezia
Last Name: Filipek
Ethnicity: Hungary, Hungarian
Last Place of Residence: Lab, Hungary
Date of Arrival: Feb 03, 1911
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Rijndam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Holland
Manifest Line Number: 0026
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?order_num=11...

First Name: Josefine
Last Name: Filipek
Ethnicity: Hungary, Hungarian
Last Place of Residence: Lab, Hungary
Date of Arrival: Feb 03, 1911
Age at Arrival: 11m Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Rijndam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam, Holland
Manifest Line Number: 0027
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/matchMore.asp?FNM=JOSEFINE...

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

peterseb — 2013-02-20 00:54:48Z

Your right.

Ludwig and Maria Dindl were married in Chicago in 1910. Suszanna and her children I found in the 1910 census. I don't think I found her and Thomas after 1920.

The Dindls sold their house/store to a Tomas Filipek. I don't know if it was the same person.

PJS

Re: Illegitimate Vienna births, nationalities

ZlaticaBeca — 2013-02-19 22:46:05Z

On EI his arrival manifest is as:
Filipek, Sudwik Lab 30 1875 1905

You're welcome.
Zlatica