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Re: Looking for Mirth from Poppendorf, Austria

fritzkoe — 2009-11-05 20:40:25Z

Only for Lutherans of Poppendorf was the parish in Eltendorf. For Roman-catholics, the parish was in Heiligenkreuz. Civil recording (from Oct. 1895) took place in Eltendorf.

Before you plan your travel, find out where the parish records (matrikeln) of Eltendorf and Heiligenkreuz are kept today. They may still be at the parish, but alternatively they could be at an archive far away.

Re: Biritz surname - Kophaza

tpairitz — 2009-11-05 19:09:31Z

Hello all! I just found this thread and wanted to see if anyone was still researching in this area. I am trying to research the Pairitz surname in Kophaza and would like to compare information with anyone who is interested. Thanks!

Hianzisch

Rachael1982 — 2009-11-05 13:47:16Z

Does anyone know approximately how many people still speak Hianzisch? Are any young people learning it from the older generations? I am also curious in which areas of Burgenland/Western Hungary it is still spoken. I've read some place names in BB newsletters, but would love to see a map of where it is spoken if someone with the knowledge wants to create one. I think it would be interesting to other BB members as well.

Rachael

Re: Looking for Mirth from Poppendorf, Austria

lovegums — 2009-11-04 22:07:38Z

Thank you so much for the tip. It is my understanding that the Church records from Poppendorf are/were kept in Eltendorf. I plan on visiting there in the next year...am studying German now. I really appreciate your recommendation.

Re: Teshoney or something similar

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-04 16:44:11Z

Garany/Hran:
http://www.fahnenkontor24.de/FOTW/flags/sk-tv-hn.html
http://www.maplandia.com/slovakia/kosice/trebisov/hran/

Re: Teshoney or something similar

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-04 15:32:57Z

all listed under Tashonyi - also on shipmanifests
1.Andras Tasonyi
2.Andras Tasonyi
3.Maria Tasonyi
4.Mihaly Tasonyi
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/search/matchMore.asp?LNM=T...

http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/search/shipmanifest.asp?MI...
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?s...
and so on...

Re: Teshoney or something similar

teshoney — 2009-11-04 13:11:44Z

Wow this is all wonderful! Thank you all so much for your help! Does anyone know how I can search any such records in aust/hungary poland etc? The message boards are wonderful! It seems like such a nice little community! Thank you all!

Re: Teshoney or something similar

LajosReich — 2009-11-03 17:21:04Z

By the ship manifest the spelling is Tosonyi.
Mihály Tosonyi went to András Tosonyi, probable to hes brother.
Garany is in the present Slovakia, town in the former Hungarian county Zemplén and got new name Hran:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/zemplen.jpg
A man, who was probable your relative: Tossonyi Edömér was a lagendary parachutist in the WW2, died in Canada at 1982.

Re: Teshoney or something similar

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-03 16:32:06Z

just have also seen that Maria and 1.Andras in the list came to Peckville for first. but Maria and the 2.Andras came from Zadrasnjlak (correct spelling?)
so think all 4 of list were related....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peckville,_Pennsylvania

Re: Teshoney or something similar

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-03 16:22:57Z

if it would be the italian name Tassoni the firstname John would be Giovanni, but don´t think it was this variant as Hungary was his home.
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/search/matchMore.asp?order...

Re: Teshoney or something similar

Mohnbauerin — 2009-11-03 16:18:58Z

immigrantshabour Ellisisland N.Y. has a Mihaly Tasonyi from
Garany. maybe related....came 1907 at age 16 to brother Andras Tasonyi in Jessup,PA. Andras came 1902 at age 17.
http://www.ellisislandrecords.org/search/matchMore.asp?LNM=T...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessup,_Pennsylvania

Re: Teshoney or something similar

teshoney — 2009-11-03 01:34:04Z

No. I am not sure of anything which is making this even more difficult. It may also be Tassoni or Tasonyi etc, etc. The more I look the more the possibilities! :)From 1 family of siblings there are multiple different spellings, so I'm not sure which (if any) are the true original from when the came to the us. I would love any help or suggestion that you may have!
Kristen

Re: researching BATTHYANY family

kenmladinich — 2009-11-02 23:32:34Z

my grandfather joseph mladinich was born in milna croatia in 1872 and was married to kathryn from milna he died in new york in 1918

Re: researching BATTHYANY family

kenmladinich — 2009-11-02 23:32:28Z

my grandfather joseph mladinich was born in milna croatia in 1872 and was married to kathryn from milna he died in new york in 1918

Re: Teshoney or something similar

LajosReich — 2009-11-02 14:35:59Z

Are you sure, it was the ORIGINAL spelling of this name?

Teshoney or something similar

teshoney — 2009-11-01 21:25:56Z

I have a family member that I have:
John Teshoney from Garany Austria
and want to trace further. He is supposedly from this area, looking to find out more. Also believe that there are still family members over seas maybe in Poland? but not sure, can anyone give me an idea of what to do with this info?

Gussing

omalinda159 — 2009-10-28 19:32:47Z

We are planning a trip to Austria in the Spring of 2010. We are planning =
to visit Gussing,Austria.
My husbands grandfather,Aunt and Uncle were born there.
We were hoping to find any relatives that may still be living there.
My husbands cousin last visited his family in Gussing in 1957 while =
serving in the US army.
We have read many letters that were written at this time back and forth =
in 1957.
My husbands grandfathers name was August Wechsler who came to the United =
States to live but was born in Gussing.
There was an Uncle that stayed in Gussing. His name was Johan Wechsler. =
An Aunt Pappi that had a daughter named Lena.
Aunt Pappi had a dog named Roarfly.
Johan Wechsler had a son named Franz Wechsler and a daughter Lena (not =
sure) if this was her name and a daughter Rose.
Rose husbands name is also Franz they had sons called Hedwig,Franz and =
Erich is the oldest son
Franz Wechsler( son of Johan Wechsler (uncle) )had a daughter named =
Franciska
I'm hoping I got some of the family names right. I still have the old =
pictures that were taken in 1957.
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated!
Thank You so much for your time!
Linda Wechsler

Re: Looking for Mirth from Poppendorf, Austria

alexandra1784 — 2009-10-28 12:58:55Z

Probably you should check for Mirth in Eltendorf too.
The war-memorial in Elterndorf mentions 5 Mirth for WWI and 4 Mirth for WWII. Have also a look at www.kirchenwirt-mirth.at (Geschichte - Gasthof Mirth)
The cemetery in Poppendorf has just one grave for the name Mirth (Julia, nee Berghold 16.07.1875 - 25.08.1959, Josef 1873 - 1968 and Franz 1909 - 1937)

Re: Zanegg Ancestors, Weisz / Unger

Weidlich183 — 2009-10-02 06:23:38Z

Ich weiß, daß Andor Sternecker am 23.3.1903 in Rusovce geboren wurde. Seine Eltern waren Vojtech Sternecker und Katarina, geb. 1868 als Ungerova aus Moson Szolnok.
Andor Sternecker ist mein Großvater, er zeugte mit meiner Großmutter (1901-1998) einen Sohn Kurt, geb. 1926, aber durch verschiedene Ereignisse konnten sie nicht heiraten.
Nach den Erzählungen meiner Großmutter haben sie sich in Österreich kennengelernt und Andor ist später nach Pecs und dann nach Budapest gezogen.
Meine Familie möchte gerne mehr über ihre Herkunft väterlicherseits erfahren, deshalb wären alle Daten, Namen, Orte/Adressen interessant, oder auch, wo sich Andor Sternecker später aufgehalten hat, ob er eine Familie gegründet hat und wo er begraben liegt.

Re: HANIFL, POPOWICH, WARTHA, WARDA

Bob60805 — 2009-10-09 04:45:52Z

Surname is Warda - grandparents came from Poland to Chicago in late 1800's. Not familiar with any relatives in Iowa or Wisconsin

Re: To all Burgenlanders

LajosReich — 2009-10-20 21:07:56Z

Well, I am quite "Thomas" about this Y-DNA test, and do not want to say about my questions.
What I can help you, they are the following:
IF your grandmother was M. REGNER, and her son had the same surname, the most probable, that Johann was born by illegal (means: not from a marriage by actual laws) The real father did not want to give he's surname for the child and rested in hidden.I can not think, the name and data of the biological father would be found personally, except by very rigorous interviews in the place, where your papa was born - otherwise it have very little possibility getting result. Have you any letters, envelopes, photos?
BTW if you write to the google the password "Regner+Mönchhof" you will get some probably useful results (I found it in page: http://href.hu/x/adn8 ). Try to take up the contact with them and ask, ask, ask....In the same way I found a lot of unknown informations about the family of a friend of mine, even the interesting persons died long time ago. Otherwise I am not professional researcher, so I did it only by friendship.
But do not forget the European polite forms and do not be impartient, do not want "to eat the Moon" as Kipling wrote it on the Book of the jungle. Your search will be much more enjoyable, like to give money for somebody - although your biological grandfather will not be found anytime, but will learn a lot about the life of your ancestors.
Have a good result!
Lajos Reich, Hungary.

Re: Civil Records for Horvat Lovo, Vas

JoanCossman — 2009-10-16 14:53:58Z

Thank you so much! I'll order the films next week.

Looking for Mirth from Poppendorf, Austria

lovegums — 2009-10-25 13:26:10Z

Hello, Trying to locate family members. Maternal grandfather was Franz Mirth born in 1896 in Poppendorf, Austria. Had 7 or 11 siblings: Josef, Anna, Gisela, possibly Theresa, possibly a Julia, too. Emigrated to US (NJ/Philadelphia)in 1920's. I am finding some Mirths who ended up in Allentown, PA as well as Ohio. Not sure if this is the same bunch.

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

ms1125_1 — 2009-10-17 19:34:13Z

Both Johann Mühl & Anna Sampel are from Wolfau (Farkasfalva). I will order films to confirm marriage
and births. Records in America death & citizenship show the above. You are correct about little Anna. Her death record shows the last name Muehl. As you most likely know the "e" added in Mühl instead of the umlaut accent.
Later the name changed to Miehle. Anna's children know as much or as little as Anna did. There is a vague family story that is as sad as funny but the letter most likely holds the clues.

As land transfered after 1992, after my grandfathers death back to family Austria, I looked to my mothers cousin who traveled there for the transaction. I am behind on contacting my best resource. But I thought also to figure out somethings on my own. When speaking to the cousin she
said the land was is Wolfau, but the family did not live there now they lived in another town (she was going to check for me). This town name and your help will give me direction toward Anna. Maybe this town was hand written for
my mothers cousin as little Anna's daughter. Thank you for writing I thought also the town was spelled wrong and asked my mother who said "that's what I wrote". I enjoyed your
note because you hit some nails right on the head!
Thank you,for some very good information and direction!

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

ms1125_1 — 2009-10-16 22:38:07Z

Thank you for responding. Bank Note attached. I appreciate any help you can give. This was originally sent to Anna Sampel Muehl. With the hand writing on the bottom my mother says it is the town where she is from. Ellis Island shows in May 1911 Anna Muhl from Farkasfalva, daughter Anna from Dresdorf (spelling ?), my grandfather John from Farkasfalva (Wolfau)& Maria from Chicago (wife & children of husband John). I know they are from Wolfau and the family names trace them to Wolfau, but this Ellis Island record along with the spelling Theisdorf has made me courious, as Dresdorf (sp) and Theisdorf may sound alike when spoke.

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

ms1125_1 — 2009-10-01 23:34:16Z

Thank you. Can you advise me on how to read the Family History Library Catalog as to what films I would need from Kemeten, for Wolfau post 1895 for civil birth records. The catalog for films for Kemeten does not list Wolfau, were they all combined? Also any idea on what Szulettek or Hazasultak means, the films are listed with dates for both?

Much appreciation!

Re: Palzer Surname

davidwp1 — 2009-10-02 06:17:29Z

OOPs I just relized I got some message threads crossed. Thomas, Did my Aunt Joyce give you some geneology notes? Do you have any that I can add to mine? Thanks!

Re: Palzer Surname

davidwp1 — 2009-10-02 06:14:28Z

There is also currently a Thomas Palzer in Illinois. I am from a hicago line of Palzers. I think I rememember your father and Verdabelle. Did he drive a big gold cadillac in the mid 70's? My father(deceased)was Gene Albert Palzer,his sister is Joyce (Palzer)Krueger in Herscher Illinois.Our can be traced back to Prussian origin.Some New York Palzers are still Jewish, most of the rest, except for me, are not.

Re: Maria Tiek

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-08 15:48:03Z

i have not any connection to Burgenland, but again to my question. is a connection to Austria?

Re: Maria Tiek

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-07 20:21:35Z

what is the connection to Burgenland - Austria?
some orgin there?

parish-churches Burgenland on net.

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-01 20:57:13Z

http://www.martinus.at/fmi/xsl/martinuspro/allgemein/allgeme...

parish-churches Burgenland on net

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-01 20:56:28Z

http://www.martinus.at/fmi/xsl/martinuspro/allgemein/allgeme...

discese-archive Burgenland....

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-01 20:53:27Z

parish-churches in Burgenland on net:
http://boards.ancestry.com/postmessage.aspx?p=localities.cee...
discese-archive Burgenland:
http://www.austria.gv.at/site/3929/default.aspx

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-01 20:47:52Z

best you ask at the community-office Wolfau in the district
Oberwart: http://www.wolfau.at/
http://maps.google.at/maps?hl=de&client=firefox-a&ch...
Wikipedia shows that Wolfau has not any community more then itself and also no hamlet like Thiesdorf:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfau
i also can´t find a town or hamlet with this name in the area.
google shows a town in France which had for a time the name
Thiesdorf: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distroff
also some Theisdorf in Germany to find.
a similar Teesdorf exists in Lower-Austria south of Vienna and north of Burgenland, but far away from the district Oberwart.
http://maps.google.at/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozi...
http://www.teesdorf.at/system/web/default.aspx

i´m also confused what your mother meant....

Re: Terze Knor, Rohr, Hungary

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-27 14:44:32Z

austrian phonebook has 127 hits for Knorr, 8 of them in Burgenland and 7 in district Güssing/Jennersdorf.

for Knor there are 235 hits, 58 of them in Burgenland and 48 in district Güssing/Jennersdorf.

Re: Terze Knor, Rohr, Hungary

Mohnbauerin — 2009-10-26 19:37:26Z

phonebook: http://www.herold.at/en/telefonbuch/
write in the name and refine at county for Burgenland and take district Güssing/Jennersdorf.
http://www.herold.at/en/telefonbuch/burgenland/knor/
58 hits for Knor
Rohr has only a Knorr Theresa (with rr).
was it Knor or Knorr?

you can write to the discesearchive in Eisenstadt:
http://www.austria.gv.at/site/3929/default.aspx

RC cemetery at Potzneusiedl

janela56 — 2009-10-25 20:08:40Z

Can anyone tell me the name of the Roman Catholic cemetery at Potzneuseidl, Burgenland? I would like to add it to a memorial I created on Find-A-Grave.

frank ritter,parkston sd

bepmische — 2009-10-02 17:43:47Z

does anyone know anything about Frank....

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

Eltendorf — 2009-10-01 22:50:18Z

Post Oct 1895 civil records continued to 1920 for Wolfau are with Kemeten.

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

fritzkoe — 2009-10-17 02:57:36Z

It is significant that the Ellis Island arrival record of 1911 states that little Anna's birthplace written as Desdorf or similar, was in Austria, not Hungary such as Wolfau. The couple Johann Mühl and Anna Sampel probably lived in "Desdorf" after their marriage, or little Anna had been born out of wedlock, before Johann and Anna met.

Have you the marriage certificate of Johann and Anna, or have you found the record of their wedding? Where was Johann from? Since little Anna was born in then Austria, it is possible that her birth was also reported in the civil records of Kemeten, the place of civil recording for Wolfau. The out-of-country births were recorded in prose which did not follow the preprinted birth forms.

The bank note seems to say Theisdorf or Dheisdorf. I agree that this is likely the birthplace of little Anna. I suspect, however, that both places are misspelled. Could it possibly mean Gleisdorf, a district capital in Eastern Styria?

Is there a death record or social security record for little Anna which could show her birthplace in yet more spellings?

Re: Civil Records for Horvat Lovo, Vas

fritzkoe — 2009-10-16 02:36:19Z

You could probably look up these records yourself on LDS microfilm. I think it is highly likely that you would find them in the films with the civil records of Vaskeresztes (aka Németkeresztes).

When official civil recording was introduced in old Hungary from October 1895 onwards, Horvátlövõ was assigned to the recording office in Vaskeresztes. This is also what likely happened (though not always). It looks as if in 1907, the recording district was split in two, with recording offices in Felsõcsatár and Pornó, and no longer in Vaskeresztes. In this case, recordings for Horvátlövõ may well have moved to Pornó.

Your dates are clearly within the timeframe of the civil records of Vaskeresztes. To find out the LDS film numbers, go to http://www.familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp and search for the place name Vaskeresztes, then follow the leads.

Re: Muehl & Sampel Wolfau Question

fritzkoe — 2009-10-16 02:05:15Z

Could you post a scan of your mother's writing on the bank note?

Re: Terze Knor, Rohr, Hungary

fritzkoe — 2009-10-27 02:02:34Z

Knor and Knorr are likely the same name in different spellings. Knorr might be the more recent spelling.

Before the introduction of civil recording in 1895, the church's baptismal certificate served also as the official birth certificate. Could you post a scan of the certificate you got? In most cases, baptism occurred on the same day, or the next day, from birth. You could look up the birth/baptism entry in the records of Bocksdorf filmed by LDS.

The fast way to finding living relatives would be to contact bearers of your family names in Rohr and hope for the best. You could prepare yourself better if you locate house numbers and births to your line in the civil records of Stegersbach. Persons born in the 1910 to 1920 timeframe may still be alive or are at least well remembered.

Re: To all Burgenlanders

johnjak133h — 2009-10-22 02:50:21Z

Dear Mr. Reich,
Thank you so much for your reply to my query; you provided excellent information.
My father was illegitimate. I was not yet born when Grandmother Maria Regner died and I was only 15 years old when my father died, so I do not have any letters, envelopes or photos from the early 1900's. (I am now 70 years old.)

I wonder if you and I are related. Maria Regner's Aunt Theresia Regner (her father's sister) married Anton Reich in 1876 in Barátfalu, Moson, Hungary. They had 9 children. Do you know some of the names of your Reich ancestors?

Thank you again,
John Klein

To all Burgenlanders

johnjak133h — 2009-10-22 02:45:36Z

To all Burgenlanders

johnjak133h — 2009-10-19 22:33:09Z

A few years ago I posted a query asking for help to find my paternal grandfather. After extensive research I have not been successful and feel that I am at a dead-end. My grandmother (Maria Regner - b. 1877) came to the USA, with my father (Johann Regner – b. 1900), from Mönchhof, Burgenland in 1903. (Johann’s birth records do not show the name of his father.) Maria married Franz Klein and my father (Johann Regner) changed his name to John Alois Klein.

I have decided to try Y-DNA genealogy. I am asking men, whose paternal ancestors are from the Burgenland, to consider taking a Y-DNA test. The company with whom I tested is Family Tree DNA: https://www.familytreedna.com (I tested for 37 markers.) Y-DNA testing may also match you with cousins you didn’t know you had. No matter which company you select, it would be most appreciated if you would let me know which one it is and for how many markers you tested. My e-mail address: john.jak133h@gmail.com.

Would those of you who have already taken a Y-DNA test, please let me know where the testing was done, and for how many markers you tested? We can arrange to have our Y-DNA test results compared.

Thank you so much,
John A. Klein II

Terze Knor, Rohr, Hungary

bettytd1 — 2009-10-26 15:46:49Z

I would like to know how to get a copy of the birth certificate for my grandmother? I have a copy of her Baptisatorum, Terez Knor, 01 Oct. 1880. I would like to know her birthdate. She was born in Rohr, Hungary.
I would also like to know how I can locate relatives living in Rohr currently.
Thank you; Betty

Re: Maria Tiek

deanaglatz — 2009-10-08 16:14:19Z

Sorry, I don't know.
Please disregard my query.

Maria Tiek

deanaglatz — 2009-10-07 17:13:09Z

Am looking for parents/siblings of Maria Tiek, born 8 Sept 1855 in either Madison or Macoupin County, Illinois. Married John Herwig 14 Feb 1872; they had 12 children. Any information appreciated - will share.
Thanks, Deana

Re: Maria Tiek

deanaglatz — 2009-10-07 20:41:40Z

I don't know - Does her name and date of birth match any of your family?