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Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.

veronika128  (View posts) Posted: 1 May 2009 5:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.
I search my ancestors birthplace, who came to Hungary to Veszprém county in the years of 1700. The names are the followes:
Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.

Please answer if you know something about the settlers, who moved to the teritory of the Bakony.

Thanks in advance
Veronika

Re: Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.

fritzkoe  (View posts) Posted: 17 May 2009 6:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kunn, Kuhn, Kern, Klein
This is not the right board for your inquiry as Burgenland and Veszprém county are different areas which, though relatively near to each other, do not intersect. I hope that you also posted on boards for Hungary in general, county Veszprém in particular, and web sites serving the Donauschwaben (Danube Swabians).

Ernest Chrisbacher has published a book with much data on the ethnic Germans from Veszprém, including data on names and origins of the original settlers of the late 17th and 18th century. If you have not heard yet about this book, please visit the web site http://www.chrisbacher.net/book/

I did a cursory check in the book for the family names you listed. Some of the names are indeed mentioned. These names seem to point to the region of Pápa.

Are you certain about the spellings of your names? For instance, "Keim" might be a misspelling. Could it rather be Kunn or Kuhn, or Kern, or Klein? Could Früholz be rather Frischholtz? According to the book, a Margarita Frischholtz married in 1760 in Nagytevel. She originated from the "Oberpfalz" (Upper Palatinate) in Germany. Some of the Kunn/Kuhn originally hailed from Grossreinfeld in Germany. The book also lists a Barbara Sabaditsch, apparently hailing from Pama in today's Burgenland. She married 1746 in Nagytevel.

Greetings, Fritz Königshofer, Bethesda, Maryland

Re: Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.

veronika128  (View posts) Posted: 30 May 2009 2:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.
Dear Fritz !
Many thanks for your kind message.
I am very glad to realize that you know so much about Hungary and you are ready to help for the new members of this board.
Let me write some words why I write in this part of the board, and what I know about my family.

My father was born in Farkasgyepü. It is a small willage not so far from Pápa. You will find some words about it in the Chrisbacher book too. I have this book. It is very interesting. I like it very much. On the teritory of this willage first was only an "inn" in the middle of the forest where the traveller could have a rest. Later from the other willages came people who settled here around the inn. It is a big difficulty in my family searching. All line of my family came from an other part of the Bakony forest. Some of them moved from Ganna about which you can also read in the book of Mr. Griesbacher. I hope that some of them have their origin somewhere in Burgenland. I would like to find this place, same as the others in Baden- Würtenberg in Germany. I would be very glad if you can give me an idea how can I find a conection with their place of origin.

My English is not so good, please be understundable because of it.

Thanks and regards
Veronika

PS.Barabara Sabaditsch would be a good advise.

Re: Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.

veronika128  (View posts) Posted: 30 May 2009 4:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Sorry as I said my English is not so good. Please be understanding and not understandable.
Thanks

Re: Keim, Früholz,Plei, Schell, Szabadits, Loneck, Tax, Fleischacker, Unger, Knoll.

fritzkoe  (View posts) Posted: 1 Jun 2009 8:31PM GMT
Classification: Query
Have you come to the 1700 in following your lines backwards? Have you reached the beginning of recordings? You need to read the church records yourself to establish the correct spelling of the names in the 1700s and hopefully find a hint on the origins of your ancestors.

Follow back any mentioning of your names, even if it's not your line.

The Chrisbacher book contains references to scholarly articles, mostly in Hungarian, about the resettling of the Bakony forest. You might want to engage a Hungarian researcher to look at these articles and see whether your ancestral names are mentioned there.

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