Hello, everyone.

My great grand aunt came to America from Austria-Hungary. Attached is a screen shot of her home town as it appears on the ship's manifest. Do you recognize the town? I've tried to match what I see with the town names in Family Tree Maker (in Hungary, starting with UJ), but haven't been able to decipher it. Any help would be appreciated.
Warmest regards, Christiana Noyalas
(researching Haftl/Haftel/Haftle and Feiertag/Feirtag among others)

Christiana:

The town name is Újtelep in Vas m(egye), meaning Újtelep in Vas county. I cannot interpret what follows the second Újtelep. Could it be a number (40?), i.e., the house number?

Today, Újtelep is in Burgenland, Austria. Its name is Neustift bei Güssing. You are indeed on the right board. Have you already found the web site of the Burgenland Bunch?

Regards, Fritz

Christiana

Feiertag, Cecilia Ujtelep, Hungary 17 1894 1911
Feiertag, Samuel Ujtelep, Austria 17 1896 1913
Feiertag, Terez Ujtelep 20 1880 1900
Feiertag, Josef Nytelep 42 1863 1905
Feiertag, Johann Njtelcp 17 1888 1905
Feiertag, Maria Mj Geleps 20 1883 1903
Feiertag, Yosef Ybelep, Hungary 42 1868 1910
Feiertag, Janos Mjtelep 20 1886 1906
The above found in www.ellisislandrecords.org
Ujtelep, Vas megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vas.jpg

Thank you for clarifying this location for me! The image is cut from the address column (from whence alien came) of a ship manifest. I wish I could interpret the street address -- it would simplify tracking down the original family homestead or at least the location of it.

Thank you for your help. The map is wonderful!!

What is the name of the immigrant, date and ship of arrival I would like to view the entire manifest.

Robert

Thank you, Robert.

This is an immigration record for Cecilia Feiertag who arrived in NY on 9 May 1911 from Bremen on the Kaiser Wilhelm II.

Christiana

Notice the others traveling with her from Ujtelep

Also over her occupation column is a series of numbers beginning with 3 and ending with 37... which is 1937 when a verification was made for legal arrival in the US as she was applying for Citizenship at INS Dist 3 which at that time was Phildelphia PA/Newark NJ inc DelMarVA peninsula (DE, MD, VA) NJ, Eastern PA

You can order these from the National Archives

http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/naturalization/

Her address was simply (number) 40 Ujtelep. Look at the rest of the manifest and see how the manifest author (who was at the Port of Depature and not at Ellis Island as American lore tells us) wrote his 4s

Robert

Thank you, Robert. I didn't realize these manifests were completed in the country of origin rather than at Ellis Island. Very interesting!

The process was thusly:

1) Immigrant asked for permission to emigrate, after which the emigrants background was checked IE any legal issues, and if a man was of draft age (age 22 all men were subject the draft for 2 yrs of active duty they should have served this otherwise they would not get permission)
2) the ticket agent would report to local police when a ticket was purchased
3) at some point the emigrant would apply for a passport which was issued in the capital (in the case of Croatia they were issued at Zagreb in dual language Croatian and French, which was the international diplomatic language of the day
4) the emigrants ticket typically was all inclusive that is land and sea travel. The port the left from depended on which company sold tickets in a town near them
5) at the port an agent (who spoke the emigrants language) of the steamship company began to record info on the manifest, which was taken from the passport and completed at sea. Actually it was against the law to modify manifests at Ellis Island or any of the other immigrant processing station
6) once the ship landed at the US port they would be separted from US Citizens and immigrants who carried enough money to be deemed to not pose any issues of self support. the others would be taken to and Immigrant Processing station. Going through processing usually took a few hours. Some immigrants who had health or mental issues or those deemed to not have the ability to support themselves would go through a Special Inquiry (noted as SI in front of the immgrants name) If it was too late in the day some immigrants would be housed overnight. Any immigrant who did not pass "muster" would be Deported and it was the responsibility of the steamship company to transport them back to Europe

A woman traveling alone was required to have a blood male relative meet them. This was mostly for safety reasons as Ports of Entry had all sorts of unsavory characters ready to take advantage of immigrants. If a woman was "betrothed" her bridegroom would come to the processing station where they would be married (NYC has many such marriage records in archives)

But alas the old tale about names being changed at Ellis Island simply will not die.... when Stephen Morse and I spoke at last years Federation of East European Family History Societies Int'l Conf. we were horrified to hear a speaker say that "not many names were changed at Ellis Island" Stephen and I tried to reason with her but she refused to believe the truth.

That said... were they mis-spellings and other errors on manifests? You betcha there were! But nothing that will hinder our search permently.

Here is an article of mine that Olive Tree posted 4 years ago which is still timely.

http://olivetreegenealogy.blogspot.com/2005/01/oddities-of-s...

Robert

Robert, thank you for sharing this information! I've forwarded it to quite a few people and plan to research passport records next (if that is possible). Regarding the spelling variations/discrepancies you highlight in your article, I have experienced these challenges and have yet to find records for three of my grandparents. Until I type in the correct mystery configuration, I won't find them.

Good luck with your research.

Christiana

Christiana

When I speak about passports I don't mean US passports, those would only be for US Citizens. And as far as immigrant ancestors passports they are lost in time. I have found that at least in Croatia there are some of the permission records found in city archives.

Who are the 3 grandparents you can not find? Also DOB, and where they settled in the US may help

Rober

Hi, Robert.

Yes, I understood what you meant. I hadn’t thought of looking for foreign passport information, but you are probably correct in that it is not available.

Thank you for offering to look for my relatives’ immigration records. Here they are:

Great grandmother: Julia Feiertag, b. 2 Jan 1891 probably in Újtelep, Vas, Hungary where her siblings were born (her marriage application references Szentgotthárd, Vas, Hungary). We believe she arrived in 1905 to settle in Lehigh and Northampton counties in PA.

Great grandfather: Paul Haftl, b. 11 Dec 1885 probably in Rábafüzes, Vas, Hungary where his siblings were born (his marriage application references Szentgotthárd, Vas, Hungary). We believe he arrived in 1902 to settle in Lehigh and Northampton counties in PA.

Grandmother: Emilija Gvazdaityte, b. 1885-1887 in Klevine, Marijampoles, Lithuania. We believe she arrived in 1907 and she settled in Shenandoah, Schuylkill County, PA. My grandmother’s first name has appeared as Emilija, Emilia, Amelia, Nellie, Millie, and Mildred. Her last name has appeared as Gvazdaityte, Gvazdaitis, Gwasdaitis, Gustitis, and just about every combination in between. Gvazdaityte is the correct spelling for an unmarried woman with this name.

I’d appreciate anything you find!

Christiana

hello from austria!

Ujtelep is the hungarian name of a town in Austria: the name ist Neustift an der Lafnitz (near Güssing).

friendly greetings,
beatrix molnar, vienna

hello, this was cleared up from fritzkoe at first answer of all. maybe you have not seen because 14 answers there until yet. :o)

Thank you for these responses. Should I have deleted my post after it was answered? I guess I don't know the protocol.