This is enlightening. I was wondering about the relationship of Juana de Mata and Juana de Dios.My grandfather's notes show his grandfather as Jose Ramon Miranda y Giro, born in 1812, married to Juana de Mata Rivera from Morovis, but no date. Jose Ramon Miranda y Giro's parents he said were Francisco Miranda and Maria Marcola Giro, must be the same as Maria Manuel. He shows Juana de Mata Rivera's parents as Ceferino Rivera and Maria Petrona Rodriguez. Any info on Ceferino and Maria Petrona?