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Re: garcel family holguin, oriente

Guillermo Ferrer  (View posts) Posted: 4 Jul 2002 3:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Garcel
I will like also information , my father is garcel from olguin, I am trying to find out more details, where can we check??

Re: pupo

Maria E. Orive  (View posts) Posted: 16 Jul 2002 4:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Fajardo, Pupo
My grandfather's name was Ernesto Fajardo Pupo; he was born in Holguín, Oriente CUBA in 1860 and his mother's name was Caridad Pupo, also from Holguín, Oriente, CUBA.

Re: Pupo, origin, Italiano-style

DelioMirPupo  (View posts) Posted: 27 Oct 2002 10:12AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pupo
Thank you Carmela for posting this information

Yes is true that our Pupo side of the Family comes from

Pedace,Calabria ITALY

We did investigations to that effect!

Re: Pupo, origin, Italiano-style

Carmela  (View posts) Posted: 27 Oct 2002 4:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pupo
Then you also know there is a good possibility that you and I are related, if not distantly. I show a gg aunt, Filemena Staine born abt 1852, who married Angelo Michele Pupo or Pupe. She was the descendent of Guiseppe Staine and Agate Oliverio.

Do you know or have any theories on why such close knit families would sometimes end on different continents when they immigrated? How fortunate that some (or many?) could read and write from Pedace. They enabled us to stay in touch with living relatives.

Re: Pupo, origin, Italiano-style

Delio_Mir  (View posts) Posted: 8 Jan 2003 3:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mir
Hi cousin Carmela
It would be nice and fortunate if some (or many?) could read and write to us from Pedace Italy enabling us to stay in touch with living relatives
I think is a good idea for our twelve children to know their
ancestry
I was born in Banes,Oriente Cuba 1949
came to Philadelphia PA. in 1955 were I was raised
Yes! I'm fathered twelve children :)
seven daughters and five sons
presently raising six children in Key West , Florida U.S.A
On My Fathers side "Mir" our old family surname comes from Gerona, Catalonia Spain to Cuba approx.in the 1840's
My wife's people are from Scotland,Norway,England and from Pennsylvania Dutch,,with surnames,,Gunning,,Campbell,,
Brett,,Given and Astor
Interesting finding our ancestry
ciao for now
Delio

Re: More about my family the Mir..Arnau Mir de Tost

Delio_Mir  (View posts) Posted: 8 Jan 2003 4:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: MIr, de Tost
Hello cousin Louie
I found this information on our ancestor Arnau Mir de Tost
Llordà Castle
Located at the top of a hill to the north of the Llordà village. This fortress dates from the 11th century. It is one of the most important examples of non strictly religious but residential architecture from the High Middle Ages which have been preserved in Catalonia. This building was constructed by Arnau Mir de Tost, one of the most significant characters related with the feudal expansion.
Take care,,nice to write to you
Delio Mir

Re: Pupo, origin, Italiano-style

Delio_Mir  (View posts) Posted: 9 Jan 2003 7:19AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pupo
Our History…Pupo side of our family

The most remote times…
By Delio Emmanuel Mir Pupo precious research and contribution of Antonio Pupo , from Francica, Italy
Our origin is italian and, as far as we can trace it, belongs to the first century before Christ, at the end of the republican period of the Roman History, with information about the existence of a certain Marcus Pisone Calpurnianus Pupius , who had been been one of the two consuls (a kind of prime-minister) in 61 b.C. Marcus Pisone Calpurnianus Pupius had belonged originally to a gens (a clan) called Calpurnia and passed, trough adoption, to the gens Pupia.

At that time, Rome was in an extreme social, political and military agitation period: most of its population (the plebeians) had empoverished; its lands were lost due to debts with the agricultural aristocracy (the patricians or optimates ) and due to slavery there were jobs neither in the country, nor in the city; with no access to the politic power and having no part of the wealth that came from military conquests, the poor ones joined a faction called Popular Party where a few plebeians enriched due to war or commerce was trying to breach the political monopoly of optimates by force (many military heads were originary men of the common people, what gave them a reasonable power to maneuver the people and the army). These things were happening since the beginning of the second century before Christ, but started to be really serious on 133 b.C., when Tiberius Gracus presented the Senate (the main political Roman agency) a species of agrarian reform. This resulted in a civil war between the partisans of Tiberius Graco (leant on the Popular Party) and the optimates (representing the senatorial interests in the Aristocratic Party). Tiberius was killed in this civil war and, ten years later, his brother Caius Gracus tried to do the same thing, rushing in another war against optimates and commiting suicide at the end of it. The land trouble kept still problematic.

After all of this, Rome passed trough a short and uncertain period of relative stability till a plebeian general called Marius became consul , opposing the optimate's will, on 107 b.C.: for the first time a plebeian assumed that rank. Marius, illegally, remained consul for lots of years, re-elected many times by military force, until optimates initiate a reaction promoting and fortifying another general, Syllas, from 95 b.C. ahead, trying to take the power away from the hands of the Popular Party. Once more a civil war began, and the violence lasted up to 86 b.C., when Marius died. His son (Marius the Young), however, continued to fight against Syllas up to 82 b.C., when, defeated, committed suicide. Syllas became then absolute master of politics and military power and controlled Rome until his death in 78 b.C., protecting the optimates interests and trying to fortify them.
The civil wars, however, had fortified the army; the control of the optimates in Rome was precarious and they knew that. The death of Syllas had created a blank which had to be fulfilled according to the will of Senate, there should be no chance for another remained member of the Popular Party. So, the optimates decided to support another general called Pompeu, who was a member of aristocracy, distinguished when suffocating, in 72 b.C., a revolt in Hispania (current Spain) against the Roman domain. Pompeu became consul in 70 b.C. and made an alliance with Crasso, the other consul and general, too. For this time, Marcus Pisone Calpurnianus Pupius , who probably had participated in Pompeu's military operations in Hispania, was a governor of that province and was received in triumph (a commemoration that represented the public recognition of the Senate to the benefactors of Rome) in 69 year b.C. Some time later, he was the legacy of Pompeu in the war against king Mitríade, who in the East had stood up against Rome since 74 b.C. The victory of Pompeu on Mitríade in 62 b.C. extended his power even more: Pompeu commemorated a triumph "over entire world" in 61 b.C., when the Senate , represented by Cicero, declared that he " extended the roman empire until the limits of the world " . This year of 61 b.C. is considered as being the apogee of political and military influence of Pompeu in Rome, and that's the year which Marcus Pisone Calpurnianus Pupius occupied the consul position, appointed by Pompeu; it's reasonable to admit, therefore, that he was a representative of the aristocracy of optimates .
The next consulate occupant (whose mandate time was officially of two years) was Julius Cesar (59 to 57 b.C.), who controlled Rome as a master until being assassinated on March, 15, 44 b.C.

Re: mir

Delio_Mir  (View posts) Posted: 10 Jan 2003 3:49AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Mir
Hello Jaime

I think is nice that your great grandfather
Amado Mir who died in Battle Gibara in Oriente Cuba and his name is in a plaque in the regiment of leoncio vidal in Santa Clara Cuba
My great great Grandfather don Luis Mir Garcell was chief
in Gibara against Spain

Nice talking with you

Re: MIR

Sair Mir  (View posts) Posted: 16 Oct 2003 2:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: MIR
In reply to Delio Emmanuel Mir- Pupo,

Your posted a messgae on 12/08/00, saying you have information regarding the family name of Mir. You said it is a Basque name. I would be most obliged if you could forward me this information, please.

Kind Regards,
Sair Mir
sair_mir@hotmail.com

Re: Pupo, origin, Italiano-style

lmalik711  (View posts) Posted: 16 Dec 2003 1:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Pupo
My name is Tammy Jo Pupo, granddaughter of Santa Joseph Pupo, daughter of Timothy Santa Joseph Pupo. I am beginning to research family history and would appreciate any information you may have to foward me concerning the Pupo family name from Italy. My email address is teamviperlicious@yahoo.com. I look foward to hearing from you! Sincerely, Tammy Pupo
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