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Re: Norris/Tredegar

nestacload1 — 2009-11-08 19:59:15Z

Sorry for my inexcusable delay in replying. George Norris was my gt grandfather and was married to Mary Jane Maddy b1857
Her parents were Herbert Maddy b1814 in Brecon and Ann Davies b 1816 from Bedwwellty Herbert D1870in Tredegar But I don't know when his wife died and it is from here back that I have reached an impasse. Please access my tree Hayes and follow the paternal line if it helps you.Thanks for your messages which I was searching for in the wrong place! I thought no-one was interested in the Norrisfamily

Re: Norris/Tredegar

nestacload1 — 2009-11-08 19:46:05Z

I posted a message. but miisunderstood hoow to access them. Sincere apologies for my tardiness. There may be a confusion due to lack of info I gave. George Norris b 1852 was married to Mary Jane Maddy b 1857 Bedwellty Tredegar. Her parents Herbert Maddy b1814 d1870 in Tredegar married Ann Davies b 1816 d? Tredegar It is that further step back I should like help with By the way Gge Norris was my gt grandfather and was a greengrocer in Tredegar

Wyndham Aubrey Thomas

gemmarichards2 — 2009-11-08 13:58:22Z

hi, im trying to find any info or a living relative of a Wyndham Aubrey Thomas born on 8.3.1910 in Wattstown,Rhonda I know he lived in Tredgar Terrace Crosskeys in 1911(already got this info fron 1911 census) and his mother's name was Maude Louise Thomas (nee Morgan) and his father's was Gomer Thomas.
Brothers and Sisters names were Albert, Frank and Mary (there maybe more)
I also know he married a Mary Agnes Brown in London in 1936 ,he also may have links with Torquay in 1942/3
Any information would be great!

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

toon9291 — 2009-11-08 01:04:30Z

hello im trying to trace my grand fathers family my grand father herbert brown born pontypridd in 1907 died newport 1993 married in 1935 to 'bridge' but also need his first wife (no info as yet)his father john brown who was a labourer no info onhim aprt frm he died before herbert's wedding to e. bridge the brown family did live in pontypridd area and herbert was placed in an orphanage when hewas 3/4 years old he also had a sister called beatrice (no info as yet) thanks keith (keith_nufc9@hotmail.com)

Re: ISRAEL OWEN, Monmouthshire

annefinnnerty — 2009-11-07 13:53:34Z

Dear Malgre77,

Thank so much for this information - and no,I'm not confused about the places. It clears up that mystery.

As for finding Israel's parents, I can't believe it. I thought with a name like Israel, he would be easy to find, but not for me!. So, once again, thank you for taking the trouble to answer my query. Regards, Anne.

Watkins "Scandal" leading to move to USA & elsewhere

thewatkins_1 — 2009-11-05 18:28:09Z

I have been told that my husband's great-grandfather and his brothers were in some time of 'situation' or 'scandal' in Wales that lead to him and a few of his brothers leaving the Country and Immigrating to the USA and maybe to Australia???

His Great Grandfather was Thomas H Watkins, born 25 Nov 1864 in either Brec or Monmouthshire. He may have been born in Brec and then moved to Monmouth...

He was the son of John & Elizabeth Sykes Watkins - brothers were: Alfred, Henry, James, John, Arthur, William, Edwin & Charles.

It may be the key to helping me find the siblings or past family beyond John Watkins - the father of these sons.

Thank you!

Charlotte Watkins

Re: ISRAEL OWEN, Monmouthshire

Malgre77 — 2009-11-05 16:07:07Z

Hi Anne
In answer to your query, Trenant is spelt Trinant, Crymlyn is Crumlin. Trinant and Crumlin are very close to each other. Crumlin is mainly at the bottom of the valley, while Trinant is on the hill above Crumlin. They are both as far as the census is concerned in the district of Bedwellty. i have found an entry in the IGI register for Israel Owen, Christening on 3 Jul 1831 at Nebo Independant Church, Penmaen, Monmouthshire. Father is David owen and mother is Elizabeth. I only know of one church that still exists at penmaen but don't think it is Nebo. There is an alternative place for Nebo Church at a place called locally as Cross Penmaen, which is in fact a short distance from Trinant. it is situated between Trinant and Oakdale. Hope this helps and doesn't confuse you. Regards malcolm.

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

sylvia_osborne — 2009-11-05 11:48:57Z

Hi Mike, My family are the Walkers. John was born/christened 5/1//1794 and his wife Sarah? also born 1794. They were married in 1822 in Risca, had 9 children that we know of.John died 1862, Sarah 1883. Is there any chance of finding out a birth date and maiden name of Sarah please. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sylvia in Australia.

Re: Familiy connections in Grosmont

selinawilliams1 — 2009-11-02 15:34:28Z

I too have relatives of the name Phillips from Grosmont. Today I visited the graveyard there to look for any family graves and found two 'tombs' baring the Phillips name. The inscriptions were hard to read due to weathering and the one tomb is behind railings and is covered with ivy. But I managed to read the name of Anne Phillips, wife of Henry who died in 1830 aged 87 years hence her birthdate was around 1743. The tomb also bore the name Mary Phillips but date of death was not readable.

Not sure if they are realtives of mine yet but it may help you with your search.

Kind regards

Selina (Great great grandaughter of William Merredith Phillips born in Grossmont during the mid 1800's).

Edwin WALKER

Watson052 — 2009-11-02 05:44:16Z

Edwin was a 25 year old unmarried Butler at Pen-Moel House, Woodcroft, Chepstow in 1911. He was born 1885 at Burton on the Hill, Gloucestershire. Father Richard Walker, mother Fanny Nobes (d.1888). Parents and half-sisters remained Birmingham area.

Any assistance in tracing Edwin aftr 1911 Census greatly appreciated.

Lesley,
Australia.

Re: Villa Rio Branco - Monmouth

davemartinson1 — 2009-11-01 16:28:30Z

Hello Fred,
I have the answer to your query regarding the current name of Villa Rio Brancho. One of my ancestors lived there before 1910. I met the current owners 3 years ago. The house is in the Manson distict of Monmouth. My ancestor was a sea captain who sailed to South America, which is where the name cam from. Send me an email? David

Re: Charles Weaver

NPH1925 — 2009-10-28 22:33:31Z

Hi Sandra
I have come to a dead end with Charles weaver,i know he had three children with Ann Hoskings, Thomas, sarah and Florence, my Great Grandmther, however i cant seem to go back any further because what i thought was a previous marraige now doesn,t seem to add up as the fathers name on the birth certificate is George not John. If you can throw any further light on this as to whome he was married to previously i would truely appreciate.
Yours Sincerely
Nicki

ISRAEL OWEN, Monmouthshire

AnneFinnertySCD8 — 2009-10-28 20:14:51Z

Looking for Israel Owen, born 1831. I can only find him from the 1851 census's onwards. He puts down he was born in three different places in each census. They are Crymlyn, Trenant and Bedwelty. I simply can't find him on any census before 1851. Can anyone help, please??

Many thanks

Re: drayton's in newport wales

robertdrayton1 — 2009-10-28 12:12:10Z

These are my ancestors. What would you like to know?

Re: GWATKIN, LEWIS, RICHARDS of Goytrey area

swisher192 — 2009-10-27 20:21:16Z

hello. I posted a reply yesterday (see below) hoping to reach you, but replied to the wrong message. Please let me know if you are still reading this board. Thanks.

hello, Viv -- I don't know if you are still reading this message board five years later! I recently found this 2004 message of yours to my second cousin, Deb, and would love to ask you a question about Goytre--particularly about a Prosser ancestor of ours, Elizabeth Prosser. She was the mother of Elizabeth Richards (who was the wife of James Gwatkin, my gggrandfather). Elizabeth Prosser is our 'brick wall'. We know she married Walter Richards (1784 in Kemeys Commander), who bought Pentwyn Farm in Goytre, and they had daughters Elizabeth and Anne (born in Bettws Newydd 1785, 1793), but we don't know anything more about Elizabeth Prosser. If you're still reading this board, please let me know if you know anything about the Prossers/Rossers of the Goytrey area. Thank you!!

Ginny

Re: GWATKIN, LEWIS, RICHARDS of Goytrey area

swisher192 — 2009-10-26 13:43:59Z

hello, Viv -- I don't know if you are still reading this message board five years later! I recently found this 2004 message of yours to my second cousin, Deb, and would love to ask you a question about Goytre--particularly about a Prosser ancestor of ours, Elizabeth Prosser. She was the mother of Elizabeth Richards (who was the wife of James Gwatkin, my gggrandfather). Elizabeth Prosser is our 'brick wall'. We know she married Walter Richards (1784 in Kemeys Commander), who bought Pentwyn Farm in Goytre, and they had daughters Elizabeth and Anne (born in Bettws Newydd 1785, 1793), but we don't know anything more about Elizabeth Prosser. If you're still reading this board, please let me know if you know anything about the Prossers/Rossers of the Goytrey area. Thank you!!

Ginny

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

ANTHONYMORRIS49 — 2009-10-25 14:40:19Z

Hi
I am trying to trace some ancestors. Unfortunately the name is davies which is making it difficult. I am trying to find a DOB and parents of a John Davies born Cwmbran in 1849/1850 father name also Thomas Davies, can you help?
Thanks
Tony Morris

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

Merice46 — 2009-10-25 13:50:24Z

Hi,
I'm looking for John Deer/e who says he was born 1809 in Castleton/town Monmouthshire.Which of your baptism records should I be searching??

Sandra

Re: James Heron 1899-1941 Newport South Wales! HELP!

ancientmariner4 — 2009-10-04 11:14:22Z

Hi James,
These directories only list the name of the head of the household and in fact, there is only one Heron mentioned in each directory (either Mary or James). There is no record of a Charlotte Heron but it would not show for example, if she was living with either of these two.
Rgds
Bob

Re: James Heron 1899-1941 Newport South Wales! HELP!

ancientmariner4 — 2009-10-03 16:36:39Z

Hi,
I was born in Newport and still have Johns's Newport Directories for 1924,1938 & 1941.
These show a James Heron living at 40, Feering Street (off Coverack Road), Newport in 1942.
In both 1938 & 1924 the same address was occupied by a Mrs Mary Heron.
Not much, but might be a useful snipit.
Bob Jones

Re: Salt Family - Tirphil

maggiesmith1334 — 2009-10-15 04:59:56Z

Good Morning Christopher

I have sent you an invitation to view my Salt family tree.

Any extra information you can provide me with would be greatly appreciated.

I can assure you that I only share the information contained in the tree with family members,and I frequently change the password.

I do hope you enjoy reading our family tree, it has been a long journey and a labour of love - I'm sure I know more about my dad's family then he ever did - I just wish he'd stayed around a bit longer and been able to enjoy it as much as me (my kids think I'm mad).

I still have a lot to do - by the way - where do you live - I still live not far away from Tividale, where I was born and some of our ancestors lived.

Let me know what you think about the site and if you have any amendments/additions.

Best wishes - Maggie

Re: Salt Family - Tirphil

maggiesmith1334 — 2009-10-12 17:42:06Z

Hello Christopher - how lovely to hear from you.

You must be the grandson of Ernest John Salt, born in Tirphil in 1914, the son of Albert Barklam Salt and Sarah Jane Bailey.

I have been working on our Salt family now for about 10 years and have also done a lot of work on the Barklams.

I have put our famiy tree onto the Tribal Pages site - if you would like to let me have your e mail address, I will send you an invitation to take a look.

Ihaven't had much contact with the Salt family - so it is lovely to hear from you. I have a cousin in Carmarthen who is also a keen family historian.

I look forward to hearing from you soon

Best wishes - Maggie

Jones & Cantelo family from Cwmbran, Monmouthshire

kayped — 2009-10-11 20:51:08Z

My grandmother was Dorothy May Jones, b1907. Her father was John George Pritchard Jones. Her mother was Alice Taylor. Dorothy had a brother who died, and another brother Basil, who went on to play in dance bands - such as Jack Parnell's.
Dorothy married Leslie Porter, and lived opposite the Cantelo family who I'm sure were related somehow. Can anyone help?

Re: Salt Family - Tirphil

chrissalt87 — 2009-10-12 16:36:10Z

Hi my name is christopher salt .my granddad was born in tirphil his name was ernest john salt.

Re: Salt Family - Tirphil

chrissalt87 — 2009-10-12 13:31:46Z

hello my name is chris salt from newtredegar just wondering if i could be of some help.MY great grandparets were from TIRPHIL

Re: Salt Family - Tirphil

chrissalt87 — 2009-10-14 20:22:59Z

Hello Maggie thank you very much for the invitation,that would be fantastic.My email is chrissalt87@talktalk.net thankyou.

Re: Norris/Tredegar

nestacload — 2009-10-24 16:18:04Z

George Norris swas my great Great Grandfather originally from Farrington Gurney I am searching for details of his wife's parents Herbert Maddy and Ann Davies From Bedwelllty Tredegar
Any help would be much appreciated

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

JeremyPrice86 — 2009-10-22 15:23:29Z

Mike

I am threading together various information about the Prices who originally seem to have been based at Kemeys Inferior - but who then (at least a good number of them) moved to "The Darren" which was a cottage/house on the edge of Wentwood that I suspect was part of the Bertholey Estate. I am not sure whether the Darren was the same as the "New House" which is specifically mentioned on census records and on some records that Joseph Bradney quotes in his history of the Hundred of Usk.

I say I suspect that the Darren was part of the Bertholey estate as it might have coincided with the run down of the estate after Bertholey House burned down in 1905.

I recently walked into Wentwood from the nearby Methodist Chapel in Penycaemawr (where my family worshipped for something like a 100 years and where my great uncle Fred Price preached up until the early 1960's) and found a ruin somewhere where Darren House is marked on the current OS Landranger map.

I don't want to burden you with work on something - and I have found out a fair amount already - but if you happened to know something that was immediately to hand I'd love to hear.

I think my next step might be a visit to Cwmbran records office - but I wouldn't be overly certain what I'd be looking for - any guidance gratefully received.

Monmouthshire Wales - help please

kmabey126 — 2009-10-01 06:23:03Z

Hi
I am looking for a John Jones who married Sarah Rees around 1859ish. They had a child born David Jones in 1864. This is all the information I have, not alot to go by. John was born in Monmouthshire but believe his son David to be born in Swansea.
Hoping someone might help please.
Thanks.
Karen.

Re: Powell family from Monmouth, Tredegar, Wales

llangynidr — 2009-10-09 09:32:48Z

Hi,
My husbands family are descended from Williams brother.
Have a look at my tree to see, but I think it is the same family.

Re: NEW MESSAGE - looking for William Henry Coopey

carolfelton116 — 2009-10-13 14:22:06Z

my late brother was called william henry coopey. our father was stanley i understand he was born in pontypool.i also understand my grandfather was henry.

Re: Norris/Tredegar

lynngriff3 — 2009-10-24 20:33:32Z

Your message was a little confusing..... George Norris
your Gt Grandfather from Farrington Gurney you are searching for his wifes parents Herbert Maddy and Ann Davies ??? Herbert Maddy was George's son ...... please clarify ........ I'm George's Great Niece and Herbert Maddy's 1 Cousin 2R.......

Lynn

Re: Norris/Tredegar

Merice46 — 2009-10-24 17:52:19Z

Hi,
Your query to brief.
When was George Norris born?
When did he marry?
Where have you found Herbert Maddy wife a wife Ann?

Regards

Sandra

Re: Norris/Tredegar

Merice46 — 2009-10-25 08:46:37Z

Hi,
1881 census Piece 5242 Fol 89 Page 15 Tredegar Mon.

8 Mount St Bedwelty

George Norris 29coal miner born Farrington Gurney Somerset
Mary Jane 25 born tredegar
Herbert Maddy Norris 6 born Tredegar
Benjamin 4 born Tredegar
Ann 2 born Tredegar

Marriage

George Norris - Mary Jane Maddy

Bedwelty 11a 104 Mar.Qtr 1873

Regards

Sandra

Re: Jones & Cantelo family from Cwmbran, Monmouthshire

Merice46 — 2009-10-18 14:08:59Z

Hi,
Would you like the info back to your great grandfather Albert Jones born Birmingham,and his wife Mary Ann Pritchard born Tintern Abbey monmouthshire.

Regards

Sandra

Re: NEW MESSAGE - looking for William Henry Coopey

Merice46 — 2009-10-18 13:37:14Z

Hi,
Don't know if you are looking for info but i thought I'd give you this.

1901 census for Barry Glamorgan

Piece 4995 Fol 21 Page 33

Phyllis St

Henry Coopey 34 bricklayer born Gloucester Gloucestershire
Ester 31 born Gloucester
William 10 born Gloucester
Ester 9 born Gloucester
Fanny 5 born Gloucester
Henry 4 born Newport Monmouthshire
Charles 2 born Barry Island Glamorgan

Birth registration

Stanley Coopey

Pontypool 11a 185 Jun.Qtr 1907

If you purchase the birth cert. it will 'prove' whether the above are the correct parents.

Regards

Sandra

Re: GORDON EDWARD LEWIS

Merice46 — 2009-10-13 11:02:29Z

Hi,
Then,how do you know he WAS born in July????

Regards

Sandra

Re: GORDON EDWARD LEWIS

Merice46 — 2009-10-14 07:24:57Z

Hi,
On Freebmd there are only 3 Gordon Lewis born in the Sep.Qtr 1926.2 under the Monmouthshire county

1] with the mother nee Windsor Newport
1] with the mother nee Bartle Newport

Under the Glamorgan county
1] with the mother nee Jones in Merthyr T

Regards

Sandra

Re: GORDON EDWARD LEWIS

Merice46 — 2009-10-12 04:10:43Z

Hi,
Birth Registration

Gordon E Lewis

Bedwelty 11a 195 Jun.Qtr 1926 mot. nee Pearce

Regards

Sandra

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

jamesgrist2007 — 2009-10-02 18:28:42Z

Hi,
I know you have a lot of requests but im trying to find out what happend to a Charlotte Heron (B:1893) who lived in Newport. She was my Great grandfather, James Heron's sister who was disowned by the family for some reason. Charlotte and the family moved from Belfast to Newport Around about the turn of the century and i have found the 1911 census for them, and even on the census Charlotte has been written in, then crossed out. Know one knows why she was disowned but my grandmother just remebers that no one was allowed to speak of her when she was younger.
Hope you can put me on the right track.
Many Thanks
James

Re: James Heron 1899-1941 Newport South Wales! HELP!

jamesgrist2007 — 2009-10-04 10:25:12Z

Hi,
would it be possible for you to have a look for a Charlotte Heron, to see where she was living in Newport. This was James` sister.
Many thanks
James

Re: James Heron 1899-1941 Newport South Wales! HELP!

jamesgrist2007 — 2009-10-03 22:32:39Z

Hi,
Wow, thank you very much. I do believe that is the correct James Heron. He died in 1942 so i think that must have been his address when he died.
Very Helpful.

Regards,
James

Re: FREE HELP WITH YOUR MONMOUTHSHIRE FAMILY AND HISTORICAL ROOTS

billybaxter80 — 2009-10-03 23:42:32Z

Hi, I would love some help. I'm trying to find my gggrandfather, William Sullivan. My grandfather, James Sullivan was born in Cardiff, Glamorgan in 1874, came out to Australia and married in 1904 in Charters Towers, Queensland where he worked as a miner. According to his marriage certificate, his father was William Sullivan, born in Pontypool, Monmouthshire and his occupation was given as a "man of wars man". His wife was Ann Donegun from Bantry, Ireland. I have found a William and Ann Sullivan on the 1881 Wales census but seem to be suck at the moment. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Re: Penmaen Oakdale

Malgre77 — 2009-10-19 15:17:20Z

Hi Linda
The Chapel is still at Penmaen with a group of Cottages alongside. The chapel and cottages can be viewed on Google earth. In on of the cottages there is the Crossoaks pub and post office and shop was next door. There could have been another Chapel in Penmaen, but if there was it was not there after abt 1960 from personal knowledge.
Regards Malcolm

Lawrence Sperry

RaymondLloyd82 — 2009-10-08 08:02:42Z

Has someone any information about Lawrence Sperry Headmaster of Newchurch West School circa 1930s, and also a Bertha Daniels.

Penmaen Oakdale

LindaSimpson402 — 2009-10-09 17:06:47Z

Hi
I am looking for info on Penmaen Cottage and Penmaen Cottages. Do they still exist. On the 1871 Census they are listed as Penmaen Chapel House and Penmaen Cottage.
On 1901 Census they are listed as Penmaen Cottage and Penmaen Cottages.
Thank You.
Regards Linda.

Re: Penmaen Oakdale

LindaSimpson402 — 2009-10-19 17:21:55Z

Hi Malcolm
Thank You for Your reply. I know where the Chapel is, and the Cross oaks. I was hoping that the House was the other side of the Chapel ,below the Graveyard. As used to live in Penmaen in a cottage just below the Chapel. I knew it as Kings Cottage, which as since been demolished. I would love to find out more about Kings Cottage, but No one seems to know anything about it. I have looked at the Censuses but to no avail. Thank You once again.
Regards Linda.

Re: GORDON EDWARD LEWIS

sarahandpaulandkids — 2009-10-16 21:31:04Z

hi sandra

he was born in july the one with the bartle was right
i found someone who gave me access to there full ancestry account.
My mother told me he was born in abbergavenny she was wrong me not looking at the birth certificate properly and going off what she told me was a bit silly but seeing as she was my mother i would expect to belive her! well i shouldnt of bothered listening for all the help she has given me (lol)
anyways
on the certificate he was born in england
i have found him now thank you very much for you helpibg

the bartle one was right although they have the wrong day and month of birth on the certificate
someone explained to me
that years ago if a child was born out of wed lock then they may have registered them wrong so it coincided with there marraige

this does explain alot

once again thanks for taking the time to help me
appricated!

sarah :)

GORDON EDWARD LEWIS

sarahandpaulandkids — 2009-10-11 21:46:38Z

hi there
ive been trying to find info on my dad im having no joy
i sent off for his birth certificate to get his parents names and it come back with his wrong date of birth i cant find another record on his birth

someone told me it could of been wrong when registered is that possible

i really am having no joy i just want to know about my family

if anyone can help this is all i have

Gordon Edward Lewis
13th july 1926
born abbergavenny wales
lived in newport (maesglas avenue)
died 24th december 1984
he did have children i dont know there names
i am one of his children to another mum
i know he had 2 brothers fredrick lewis and not sure on the others name
he had a aunti winifred lewis who worked as a nurse in wales

i dont know what else to do i really want to know who my family was

so as you can see im stuck

so anyone with anything or any help i would appriciate it alot!

thanks
sarah

Re: GORDON EDWARD LEWIS

sarahandpaulandkids — 2009-10-13 08:57:22Z

Hi there Sandra
thanks for getting back to me
unfortunatly the info was for the june quater and he was born in ~July
thanks very much for looking for me
i have searched and there is one record with the mothers name of Bartle
only problem i have is that when i got the birth certificate
is the date was wrong